Dynasty - 2010's there can be only one!

Below I compiled a short list of accomplishments of teams I considered to be a Dynasty during their decade or an Almost was a Dynasty during their respective decade. The teams I chose as almost Dynasty's lacked a SB win as criteria. There are many teams like the 70's Raiders/Vikings/Cowboys, 80's Redskins, 2000's Giants Etc. These teams all won at least 1 Super Bowl. Now you would say Brahn!, the fact the Vikings won 2 SB's in the 70's makes them an almost Dynasty! I would reply with, bugger off my rules. Lets take a look and I will see you on the other side of the text wall.
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2000's
Eagles - Almost
1 SB Loss 2004
1 Conference Championship 2004
5 Conference Championship Appearances 2001/2002/2003/2004/2008
8 Division Titles 2000/2001/2002/2003/2004/2006/2008/2009

Patriots - Dynasty
3 Super Bowl Wins 2001/2003/2004
1 SB Loss 2007
4 Conference Championships 2001/2003/2004/2007
5 Conference Championship Appearances 2001/2003/2004/2006/2007
7 Division Titles 2001/2003/2004/2005/2006/2007/2009
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90's
Buffalo Bills - Almost
4 SB Losses 1990/1991/1992/1993
4 Conference Championships 1990/1991/1992/1993
4 Conference Championship Appearances 1990/1991/1992/1993
4 Division Titles 1990/1991/1993/1995

Dallas Cowboys -Dynasty
3 SB 1992/ 1993/ 1995
3 Conference Championships 1992/1993/1995
4 Conference Championship Appearances 1992/1993/1994/1995
6 Division Titles 1992/1993/1994/1995/1996/1998
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80's
Broncos -Almost
3 SB Losses 1986/1987/1989
3 Conference Championships 1986/1987/1989
3 Conference Championship Appearances 1986/1987/1989
4 Division Titles 1984/1986/1987/1989

Niners - Dynasty
4 SB Wins 1981/1984/1988/1989
4 Conference Championships 1981/1984/1988/1989
5 Conference Championship Appearances 1981/1983/1984/1988/1989
7 Division Titles 1981/1983/1984/1986/1987/1988/1989
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70's
Rams - Almost
1 SB Loss 1979
1 Conference Championship 1979
5 Conference Championship Appearances 1974/1975/1976/1978/1979
7 Division Titles 1973/1974/1975/1976/1977/1978/1979

Steelers - Dynasty
4 SB Wins 1974/1975/1978/1979
4 Conference Championships 1974/1975/1978/1979
6 Conference Championship Appearances 1972/1974/1975/1976/1978/1979
7 Division Titles 1972/1974/1975/1976/1977/1978/1979
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Now that we have taken some time to look at all the above information, I wanted to discuss how the Niners and Seahawks are currently set up to be either a Dynasty or an Almost. While I wanted to just talk Hawks/49ers I added the other SB winners this decade as reference. The Hawks having a SB win now would put them more in the 70's Raiders category of 1 SB and thus should not be a contender for "Almost Dynasty" but like I said earlier Bugger off! my rules!. this will also not be a knock on the Niners as I feel they are still in a position to be a Dynasty.

--------------------------------Super Bowl Wins Super Bowl Appearances Conference Championships Conference Championship Appearances Division Titles
Seahawks-----------------------1 (2013)-----------------1(2013)-------------------------1(2013)------------------------------1(2013)---------------------------2(2010/2013)
Niners------------------------------0------------------------1(2012)-------------------------2(2013)--------------------------3(2011/2012/2013)-----------------2(2011/2012)
Ravens---------------------------1 (2012)-----------------1(2012)-------------------------1(2012)--------------------------2(2011/2012)------------------------2(2011/2012)
Packers--------------------------1(2010)------------------1(2010)--------------------------1(2010)-------------------------1(2010)--------------------------------3(2011/2012/2013)

Issue #1 Every previous Almost/Dynasty listed above had 1 team from each Conference (we have teams from not only the same conference but also same division)
Issue #2 Very early in the decade to get a total view yet (4 Seasons)
Issue #3 Every "Dynasty" listed had at least 6 Division Titles - 3 of 4 had 7 Division Titles (only 6 more Division titles possible in the decade)
Issue #4 Only 1 "Dynasty" listed above had a loss in a SB (Patriots)
Issue #5 Every "Dynasty" won at least 1 back-to-back Super Bowls (Hawks currently in position to try for Back-to-Back next season)
Issue #6 "Almosts" Had either 5 Conference Game Appearances or at least 3 SB losses in same decade (Niners are closer to the 5 Conference Games without a SB win plateau) (Patriots had 5 Appearances with 1 SB Loss and 3 SB Wins - Niners still in the running)
Issue #7 Dynasty = at least 3 SB wins in a decade (Hawks 1 Niners 0 - 6 Seasons Left / Hawks will need to win 2 of 6 and Niners 3 of 6)
Issue #8 Non of this matters in the long run but it is fun to speculate and discuss

Conclusion: I still feel the Niners could be the Dynasty of the 2010's but as of right now the Hawks are closer to the "Dynasty" and the Niners are closer to the "Almost" under the criteria I used. With all that said currently the Packers are leading the way in the current decade.

Go Hawks

Nice post.

I think one thing that might be happening is the reliance on decades, which is an artificial marker for dynasties (dynasties can and do extend across the beginning and ending of decades, or don't last for a whole decade. As examples the Bills almost dynasty was over by 1996, and for the 9ers 1994 probably has more to do with 1988 and 1989 than 1981 does.

If we're predicting a dynasty moving forward though, my money would DEFINITELY be on the Hawks. Of all of the high achieving/high talent teams they're talent is really incredibly young. Likewise, in terms of "this" Hawks team last year was the only year in their window where they have "missed" in a dynasty metric, whereas the the 9ers are both older as a team and with their team they've "missed" in a dynasty metric for three years. That's definitely the mark of a likely "almost dynasty" IMO.

Popeyejones":338mmpxq said:

Nice post.

I think one thing that might be happening is the reliance on decades, which is an artificial marker for dynasties (dynasties can and do extend across the beginning and ending of decades, or don't last for a whole decade. As examples the Bills almost dynasty was over by 1996, and for the 9ers 1994 probably has more to do with 1988 and 1989 than 1981 does.

If we're predicting a dynasty moving forward though, my money would DEFINITELY be on the Hawks. Of all of the high achieving/high talent teams they're talent is really incredibly young. Likewise, in terms of "this" Hawks team last year was the only year in their window where they have "missed" in a dynasty metric, whereas the the 9ers are both older as a team and with their team they've "missed" in a dynasty metric for three years. That's definitely the mark of a likely "almost dynasty" IMO.

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I can totally agree, many times a team will have 1 more hooorah right after the decade changes. I use the decade marker as a way to distinguish when a team clearly dominated the decade and when a team really wasted opportunities during the same decade. If a team won say 3 SB's near the end of a decade and then 3 more at the start of the next decade I would assume they would be in the running for 2 Dynastys. Gotta have a limit somewhere otherwise the Steelers are the greatest Dynasty of all time with 6 Trophies. I would still not count out a Patriots type run for the Niners. Hit on a few picks the next 2 years plus have those stockpiled guys you already have pan out and I could still see it. But yes as of right now I guess the Hawks would be closer to "Dynasty" and the Niners "Almost".

Thanks for the reply

**Edit** Popeye you made me think and maybe a better name for this would be -The Decades Best / Almost was-?

Below I compiled a short list of accomplishments of teams I considered to be a Dynasty during their decade or an Almost was a Dynasty during their respective decade. The teams I chose as almost Dynasty's lacked a SB win as criteria. There are many teams like the 70's Raiders/Vikings/Cowboys, 80's Redskins, 2000's Giants Etc. These teams all won at least 1 Super Bowl. Now you would say Brahn!, the fact the Vikings won 2 SB's in the 70's makes them an almost Dynasty! I would reply with, bugger off my rules. Lets take a look and I will see you on the other side of the text wall.

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The Viking never won a Super Bowl, appeared in 4 if memory serves.

chris98251":14m2fgnf said:

Below I compiled a short list of accomplishments of teams I considered to be a Dynasty during their decade or an Almost was a Dynasty during their respective decade. The teams I chose as almost Dynasty's lacked a SB win as criteria. There are many teams like the 70's Raiders/Vikings/Cowboys, 80's Redskins, 2000's Giants Etc. These teams all won at least 1 Super Bowl. Now you would say Brahn!, the fact the Vikings won 2 SB's in the 70's makes them an almost Dynasty! I would reply with, bugger off my rules. Lets take a look and I will see you on the other side of the text wall.

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The Viking never won a Super Bowl, appeared in 4 if memory serves.

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Your memory is correct, my oversight.

They won in 1969 not in the 70's

Minnesota never won a Superbowl.

the fact the Vikings won 2 SB's in the 70's

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what

They won in 1969 not in the 70's

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what???

Good post, but not sure how any team that didn't win a single Super Bowl during that period can be "almost dynasty" status.

In the 2000's Pittsburgh won 2 SB's and the NYG were 1-1. I know NE was "The Dynasty" but to put Philly at almost and leave out Pitt and NYG seems crazy.

Right now you have Seattle and SF battling it our to be the Dynasty, I could see Green Bay being competitive as well. I could easily see us winning 2 to 3 more SB's or at least making it their in the next 6 years. I'd love to be the first team to win 3 straight SB's

Wenhawk":3swzz30c said:

In the 2000's Pittsburgh won 2 SB's and the NYG were 1-1. I know NE was "The Dynasty" but to put Philly at almost and leave out Pitt and NYG seems crazy.

Right now you have Seattle and SF battling it our to be the Dynasty, I could see Green Bay being competitive as well. I could easily see us winning 2 to 3 more SB's or at least making it their in the next 6 years. I'd love to be the first team to win 3 straight SB's

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Now is the time if that is to be done given we have two more years until we have to show Wilson the money.

Wenhawk":12m70x50 said:

In the 2000's Pittsburgh won 2 SB's and the NYG were 1-1. I know NE was "The Dynasty" but to put Philly at almost and leave out Pitt and NYG seems crazy.

Right now you have Seattle and SF battling it our to be the Dynasty, I could see Green Bay being competitive as well. I could easily see us winning 2 to 3 more SB's or at least making it their in the next 6 years. I'd love to be the first team to win 3 straight SB's

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There will never be a 3 straight SB winning team in the NFL. After watching a juggernaut miss it so barely (the 1990 49ers) with a super stacked team in a non cap era.....yeah, it's gonna be tough for ANYBODY to ever come close.

It's just too hard to do, primarily because the intensity will drop off each year. I think back to back SB champs is also going to be very challenging to do.

I already posted that a SB winner hasn't even won a SINGLE playoff game the year after winning since 2004. That's a crazy streak. Those 2004 Patriots that won one game in 2005 playoffs was the closest in recent times, but still a game or two away from winning it all.

Had the 49ers gone all the way in one of years 2011-2013, they probably would have struggled to break the streak and if they did most likely not end up in the conference championship game.

The stuff Seattle is going through now with the salary cap issues.....I wonder how different it would be had they not won the super bowl. Same with Baltimore, who had no qualms to dismantle their roster and overpay Flacco after winning it all.

So unless Wilson plays for league minimum the rest of his life, no shot.

NINEster":1kvifq57 said:

Wenhawk":1kvifq57 said:

In the 2000's Pittsburgh won 2 SB's and the NYG were 1-1. I know NE was "The Dynasty" but to put Philly at almost and leave out Pitt and NYG seems crazy.

Right now you have Seattle and SF battling it our to be the Dynasty, I could see Green Bay being competitive as well. I could easily see us winning 2 to 3 more SB's or at least making it their in the next 6 years. I'd love to be the first team to win 3 straight SB's

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There will never be a 3 straight SB winning team in the NFL. After watching a juggernaut miss it so barely (the 1990 49ers) with a super stacked team in a non cap era.....yeah, it's gonna be tough for ANYBODY to ever come close.

It's just too hard to do, primarily because the intensity will drop off each year. I think back to back SB champs is also going to be very challenging to do.

I already posted that a SB winner hasn't even won a SINGLE playoff game the year after winning since 2004. That's a crazy streak. Those 2004 Patriots that won one game in 2005 playoffs was the closest in recent times, but still a game or two away from winning it all.

Had the 49ers gone all the way in one of years 2011-2013, they probably would have struggled to break the streak and if they did most likely not end up in the conference championship game.

The stuff Seattle is going through now with the salary cap issues.....I wonder how different it would be had they not won the super bowl. Same with Baltimore, who had no qualms to dismantle their roster and overpay Flacco after winning it all.

So unless Wilson plays for league minimum the rest of his life, no shot.

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Niner propaganda. Seattle is not in a salary cap crisis. The biggest issue is we have Star players who will need new contracts, like every other team in the league. So if Wilson will nto win because of this "magical future huge contract" Niners fans like to throw around. How will you win when you are paying Kaepernick the same or more? Last time I checked we were both roughly 15mil under the cap. You are going to have to let key players walk (Whitner), and have your own extension issues. Aldon Smith, Crabtree, Kaepernick, Brown, Boldin, Bowman. not to mention the money being paid to Willis, Smith, all your hurt linemen. So with your statement. The Niners have no chance of winning.

Niner propaganda also lets us see that one of the youngest teams in the league (Hawks) will have the same issues after winning the Superbowl that one of the oldest teams (Ravens) that was also over the cap had.

Wishful thinking Niner, go spin this dribble over at the Webzone. Where you can blame the NFL and refs for the conspiracy that is not letting the Niners win. You would think it is the NFL, Refs, and all 31 other teams vs the Niners. Niners fans also love to think that they are the only ones that win on hard work and earned effort. Everyone else is just "helped" by the NFL.

Here's something I recently put together. Starting in 2002, when the NFL last expanded and realigned, every team in the NFL has made the playoffs at least once. Giving 1 point for a playoff appearance, 2 for a division title, 3 for a conference title, and 5 for a Super Bowl win, here's the rankings for all 32 teams in the last 12 years.

Some interesting tidbits, New England has been the most successful, but Indy actually has the most playoff appearances. Did you know that San Diego has the most AFC West titles in this period? Or that the Jets have more playoff appearances than the Rams and Cardinals combined?

SeatownJay":3bxwcovn said:

Here's something I recently put together. Starting in 2002, when the NFL last expanded and realigned, every team in the NFL has made the playoffs at least once. Giving 1 point for a playoff appearance, 2 for a division title, 3 for a conference title, and 5 for a Super Bowl win, here's the rankings for all 32 teams in the last 12 years.

Some interesting tidbits, New England has been the most successful, but Indy actually has the most playoff appearances. Did you know that San Diego has the most AFC West titles in this period? Or that the Jets have more playoff appearances than the Rams and Cardinals combined?

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Team                  Playoffs   Div. Titles   Conf. Titles   Super Bowls   Points
New England Patriots     10          10             4              2          52
Indianapolis Colts       11           8             2              1          38
Pittsburgh Steelers       7           5             3              2          36
Seattle Seahawks          8           6             2              1          31
Green Bay Packers         9           7             1              1          31
New York Giants           6           3             2              2          28
Baltimore Ravens          7           4             1              1          23
Philadelphia Eagles       8           6             1              0          23
New Orleans Saints        5           3             1              1          19
Denver Broncos            6           4             1              0          17
San Diego Chargers        6           5             0              0          16
Tampa Bay Buccaneers      3           2             1              1          15
Carolina Panthers         4           4             1              0          15
San Francisco 49ers       4           3             1              0          13
Chicago Bears             3           3             1              0          12
Atlanta Falcons           5           3             0              0          11
Cincinnati Bengals        5           3             0              0          11
Arizona Cardinals         2           2             1              0           9
Dallas Cowboys            4           2             0              0           8
Kansas City Chiefs        4           2             0              0           8
Minnesota Vikings         4           2             0              0           8
Tennessee Titans          4           2             0              0           8
Oakland Raiders           1           1             1              0           6
Houston Texans            2           2             0              0           6
Miami Dolphins            2           2             0              0           6
Washington Redskins       3           1             0              0           5
New York Jets             5           0             0              0           5
St. Louis Rams            2           1             0              0           4
Jacksonville Jaguars      2           0             0              0           2
Cleveland Browns          1           0             0              0           1
Detroit Lions             1           0             0              0           1

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Nice, thanks for putting this together. New England made the conference championship 7 times since realignment as well. Really incredible considering how outrageously difficult it is to maintain success in this era. Just look at how many attempts the Pats and Colts had at the Lombardi and it is clear just how hard repeating will be. Also, AFC East - time to stop sucking so bad!

You left out the Buffalo Bills

^^^ Yeah, only team not to make the playoffs once since '02. Their last appearance was in '99.