Scary thought

What if the 49ers had offered Pete Carroll full control with the ability to hire his own GM in 2010?

If given the choice between coaching the Seahawks with full control and coaching the 49ers with full control, I have no doubt whom Carroll would have chosen at that time. After all, Carroll is from the Bay Area and grew up a big Niners fan in Marin County. Coaching the defense under Bill Walsh was one of the formative experiences of Carroll's career.

The Niners already had five Pro Bowlers during the 2009 season, but finished just 8-8 under Mike Singletary. They could have easily fired Singletary at that point, if they were smart, and offered Carroll the full control he always sought. Of course, we know the imperious York family never would have allowed Carroll to have full control . . . but it's a scary thought nonetheless.

The 49ers' base talent combined with John Schneider's scouting and Pete Carroll's legendary coaching and talent evaluation. Maybe combine the greatest LB corps in NFL history with the greatest secondary in NFL history . . . It's not hard to imagine the Niners would already have two Super Bowls under Carroll with more on the horizon. And where would we be?

Thank God Paul Allen made the decisions he did. :th2thumbs:

And if we had Jim Harbaugh, I'd bet we'd love him and think Pete in SF was the worst cheater ever.

kearly":hjig3rfu said:

And if we had Jim Harbaugh, I'd bet we'd love him.

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I just vomited little chunks of carrot in my mouth then....thanks Kearly.

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kearly":38clyr7v said:

And if we had Jim Harbaugh, I'd bet we'd love him and think Pete in SF was the worst cheater ever.

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We also wouldn't have a Super Bowl, not even close.

kearly":q43o371m said:

And if we had Jim Harbaugh, I'd bet we'd love him and think Pete in SF was the worst cheater ever.

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Niners fans don't even love him

kearly":18x667ht said:

And if we had Jim Harbaugh, I'd bet we'd love him and think Pete in SF was the worst cheater ever.

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Bingo.

Marvin49":3dyw6hk7 said:

kearly":3dyw6hk7 said:

And if we had Jim Harbaugh, I'd bet we'd love him and think Pete in SF was the worst cheater ever.

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Bingo.

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Marvin's shortest response, EVER?

I disagree. We had Mora, and nobody liked him. I think we would have been universally embarrassed.

hawknation2014":z9upc8zo said:

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This, I would be embarrassed as hell to have my coach act the way Jimmy does and without probowl talent surrounding him I doubt he has any level of success and we weren't exactly loaded with probowl talent at that time. Thank you Timmay.

Now Kaep I could see falling in love with. The guy is fun to watch but it would be a love hate relationship for me while hoping he matures and grows into his potential.

I don't know we enjoyed Pinella here and he had moments of irrational behavior we thought was funny.

Pinella lost it sometimes but you always felt like there was a bit of method to his madness (at least I did.) Harbaugh throws little temper tantrums every time ANYTHING goes wrong.

I can honestly say I would be embarrassed as hell if he was my coach and acted like that.

Nah, I haven't been able to stand Harbaugh since he was QBing the Colts. I really would dislike that guy while putting up with him as long as he was winning.

It would really hurt to see Carroll go back to SF and win at least two titles by this time in that alternate universe the OP proposed, however. Ugh.

Wow. Imagine Russell Wilson in red and gold...

I hate you.

All valid points. I hated Carrol when he was coaching USC was like WTF when he left with obvious sanctions forthcoming. We now see the other NFL fan bases have the same view I used to. Now that Petes here it's clear he s a great coach and has a clear plan and it works. If you are Pete, who would you trust more, Paul Allen or York?

As far as Sweet Lou, he was awesome. He would go ballistic but it was for effect. He did it to get an edge, either with his players or with the umpires. Jimmy boy does it because he cant control himself. Big difference.

kearly":2w0sf6xd said:

And if we had Jim Harbaugh, I'd bet we'd love him and think Pete in SF was the worst cheater ever.

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Negative, but I might be biased. My mother is a USC Alumni. I loved PC in college and thought that team got royally hosed by the NCAA (which, besides haters, I believe is the general consensus)

Remember Tom Flores, the all-time worst coach hire for Seahawks in the mid-90s? In addition to hating the fact Seahawks were trying to recycle a coach who was already spent and hating the way he wore that off-putting blue sweater knowing black and silver oozes through his veins, I hated his lack of emotion on the sidelines for those three long years. Flores is the opposite of both Pete Carroll and Jim Harbaugh. How can any player be fired up for such a stoic coach? The day we fired him was one of the happiest days of my life.

Well Tom Landry was the most Stoic Coach I can remember on the sidelines, but out of the cameras eye I heard he was a kick your ass and let God sort things out and find all the pieces.

Marvin49":2ptcnlhr said:

kearly":2ptcnlhr said:

And if we had Jim Harbaugh, I'd bet we'd love him and think Pete in SF was the worst cheater ever.

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Bingo.

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I disagree at least in part. I know a lot of Niner fans who are growing tired of Harbaugh. His strange antics get old after a while. I also don't think we would have a Super Bowl. Harbaugh is a great coach but wouldn't work well with someone like JS.

austinslater25":34go4mz3 said:

Marvin49":34go4mz3 said:

kearly":34go4mz3 said:

And if we had Jim Harbaugh, I'd bet we'd love him and think Pete in SF was the worst cheater ever.

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Bingo.

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I disagree at least in part. I know a lot of Niner fans who are growing tired of Harbaugh. His strange antics get old after a while. I also don't think we would have a Super Bowl. Harbaugh is a great coach but wouldn't work well with someone like JS.

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Any 49ers fan who is tired of Harbaugh has only been a niners fan since Harbaugh showed up and they started winning games. The real fans who had to go through the ineptness of Erickson, Nolan, and Singletary could really care less about how he acts as long as he isn't doing anything morally wrong. People love to hate Harbaugh because of his "childness", but if/when he gets a title he will need to be in the discussion for best coach ever as much as it kills some people. The dude gets results in the win category wherever he has been.