OUCH! Toxic NFL rant... Cops on the niner payroll...

Olberman... I used to give a shit what he had to say about a thing or two but he's so quick to cry foul that I can't take him seriously.

Obviously the cop was stupid to go to the house and insert himself like that if there's even a possibility of conflict of interest but it's entirely plausible that he wasn't doing anything malicious. Will wait and see but yes, it definitely looks bad.

I can appreciate the value of shining a bright light on the situation in order to keep pressure on SJPD to be forthright and thorough as well. I just can't help but have doubts about anything that comes out of Olberman's mouth and that's from someone that used to enjoy his rants from time to time.

So much for conspiracy theories and tin foil hats

wow, if true, hahahaha. If you aint cheating, u aint trying. What scum

Um this is stupid, every cop in the country looks for secondary work. Have you researched their avg salaries? Hate to inform but Seattle also has cops on the payroll. They work security for games and do many other jobs when they are not working a beat.
As for a cop showing up to the house, well he was the first one called. A police officer is never really off duty, if he thought something was wrong he had the right to go. Its just complicated now because he works security for the team. Love the conspiracy theories around the NET though. If its not Global Warming and the heat in San Diego, or all of the California Legal system is Niner fans it's something else.

Bob loblaw":207wtqx9 said:

Um this is stupid, every cop in the country looks for secondary work. Have you researched their avg salaries? Hate to inform but Seattle also has cops on the payroll. They work security for games and do many other jobs when they are not working a beat.
As for a cop showing up to the house, well he was the first one called. A police officer is never really off duty, if he thought something was wrong he had the right to go. Its just complicated now because he works security for the team. Love the conspiracy theories around the NET though. If its not Global Warming and the heat in San Diego, or all of the California Legal system is Niner fans it's something else.

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What a Homer....Stupid?

That just isn't true, not every cop looks for secondary work, their salaries are actually very fair depending on which agency and the level they are at. 2 on my street, 2 on the next street and not a one of them has a secondary job. Of course one of those is a Boy Scout leader, so there is that.

The conflict of interest in this case is rotten to the core. When 911 is called and another cop has already been to the scene, but happens to be on the payroll of the team, that stinks like a dead body in Nawlins'.

The Niners have been playing in Santa Clara for 5 weeks, These cops weren't part of team security last year, but Ray McDonald is already calling them like the "I got busted" hotline.

And your comment about Seattle having cops as security to work games? They also wear their uniforms while doing it as cops, but you are just talking out your ass, find an instance or mention anywhere in which Seattle players have a hotline to call their connected security rep prior to the regular police getting to the scene of a crime.

Bob loblaw":2s71t6yg said:

Um this is stupid, every cop in the country looks for secondary work. Have you researched their avg salaries? Hate to inform but Seattle also has cops on the payroll. They work security for games and do many other jobs when they are not working a beat.
As for a cop showing up to the house, well he was the first one called. A police officer is never really off duty, if he thought something was wrong he had the right to go. Its just complicated now because he works security for the team. Love the conspiracy theories around the NET though. If its not Global Warming and the heat in San Diego, or all of the California Legal system is Niner fans it's something else.

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I have some ocean front property in North Dakota you may be interested in...

That officer that McDonald (and the 49ers) had in their back pocket, was barred from working with the team.

"We suspended him working for that company because of that (public) trust," Garcia said. "We hold all our officers to a very high standard. We're getting all the facts as to why that individual officer was there. I certainly feel and have the utmost confidence that we would be able to investigate any situation without there being a conflict of interest."

Garcia would not say if Pritchard was on duty at the time McDonald is suspected of assaulting his pregnant fiancee or confirm that he was there ahead of responding officers. But sources said that McDonald called Pritchard, who was the first officer there.

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Pritchard's job with the team's security detail -- through a private contractor -- was not neatly defined. Sources say it included escort duties that put him in regular contact with players and other VIPs in the 49ers organization. He apparently traveled with the team as well. ...

O'Donnell, a former prosecutor and NYPD officer, said police agencies need to be more wary about officers taking jobs with sports teams, which may expect implied favors in exchange ...

"It's very worrisome. ... The cops have to be detached from these kinds of relationships," he said. "When officers are getting free meals and stuff like that, these people really are friends of the badge, not of the person. Too often, these relationships are about what the officer can do for you."

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http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts ... nal-review

LMAO!!

He traveled with the team?

HAHAHAHAHAHA!! Who was that dude in Pulp Fiction? The Wolf?

The Niners bring in the Wolf.

loafoftatupu":jd4wbs1x said:

Bob loblaw":jd4wbs1x said:

Um this is stupid, every cop in the country looks for secondary work. Have you researched their avg salaries? Hate to inform but Seattle also has cops on the payroll. They work security for games and do many other jobs when they are not working a beat.
As for a cop showing up to the house, well he was the first one called. A police officer is never really off duty, if he thought something was wrong he had the right to go. Its just complicated now because he works security for the team. Love the conspiracy theories around the NET though. If its not Global Warming and the heat in San Diego, or all of the California Legal system is Niner fans it's something else.

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What a Homer....Stupid?

That just isn't true, not every cop looks for secondary work, their salaries are actually very fair depending on which agency and the level they are at. 2 on my street, 2 on the next street and not a one of them has a secondary job. Of course one of those is a Boy Scout leader, so there is that.

The conflict of interest in this case is rotten to the core. When 911 is called and another cop has already been to the scene, but happens to be on the payroll of the team, that stinks like a dead body in Nawlins'.

The Niners have been playing in Santa Clara for 5 weeks, These cops weren't part of team security last year, but Ray McDonald is already calling them like the "I got busted" hotline.

And your comment about Seattle having cops as security to work games? They also wear their uniforms while doing it as cops, but you are just talking out your ass, find an instance or mention anywhere in which Seattle players have a hotline to call their connected security rep prior to the regular police getting to the scene of a crime.

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OK....

...I gotta address this one since I've been the one defending the team here.

I don't know exactly what happened in the McDonald case, but while not EVERY cop has a secondary income, it is VERY COMMON for security firms to employ off duty and retired cops. Why? Experience.

Not a part of team security 5 weeks ago? Total BS. Yes, the Niners have been playing games in SC for 5 weeks, but they have been residents of Santa Clara County for 20 plus YEARS. The new stadium was built right next to the EXISTING team headquarters. The 49ers have only been residents of SF over the last 20+ years on 10 days a year.

Why did McDonald call the cop? Perhaps his fiancé done gone nuts like it appears she did in May. Maybe he beat the crap out of her and was looking for a way out. I have no idea. No way of getting around the fact that it simply looks bad. This is also very likely why the investigation took so long to turn over to the DA.

The cop BTW has been barred from working for the team until the investigation is concluded. He is NOT the only cop employed by the team or a security service working for the team. All NFL teams do this BTW. What's really in question here is WHY did Ray call the guy and WHAT did the guy do while onsite. If Ray did this and the cop tried to cover it up, BOTH need to be canned. Immediately.

I will say this tho...if that off duty cop was onsite and works with the team, he may have given the team information on what transpired and might be why they are backing McDonald thus far.

I'll wait to see what comes of it before I comment further.

Marvin49":2q22bk6u said:

OK....

...I gotta address this one since I've been the one defending the team here.

I don't know exactly what happened in the McDonald case, but while not EVERY cop has a secondary income, it is VERY COMMON for security firms to employ off duty and retired cops. Why? Experience.

Not a part of team security 5 weeks ago? Total BS. Yes, the Niners have been playing games in SC for 5 weeks, but they have been residents of Santa Clara County for 20 plus YEARS. The new stadium was built right next to the EXISTING team headquarters. The 49ers have only been residents of SF over the last 20+ years on 10 days a year.

Why did McDonald call the cop? Perhaps his fiancé done gone nuts like it appears she did in May. Maybe he beat the crap out of her and was looking for a way out. I have no idea. No way of getting around the fact that it simply looks bad. This is also very likely why the investigation took so long to turn over to the DA.

The cop BTW has been barred from working for the team until the investigation is concluded. He is NOT the only cop employed by the team or a security service working for the team. All NFL teams do this BTW. What's really in question here is WHY did Ray call the guy and WHAT did the guy do while onsite. If Ray did this and the cop tried to cover it up, BOTH need to be canned. Immediately.

I will say this tho...if that off duty cop was onsite and works with the team, he may have given the team information on what transpired and might be why they are backing McDonald thus far.

I'll wait to see what comes of it before I comment further.

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Total BS Marvin? I will bet you a month of non-posting here that those officers from SJPD just came on board with the team this season. That I can find something to prove it and that you cannot find something to prove that the group of 20 or less have been with the players/team prior to this season.

If you cannot see the major conflict of interest here, you really are the blind defender of stupidity that many claim.

Even though the 49ers have no important official presence in San Jose, lots of group members live in the city, exactly where the higher-profile arrests of players such as Aldon Smith and Chris Culliver have drawn headlines. Garcia mentioned 17 SJPD officers work in some type of off-duty capacity for the team, most of them coming on after the organization relocated to the South Bay.

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new hires to the family

loafoftatupu":1he2myr2 said:

Marvin49":1he2myr2 said:

OK....

...I gotta address this one since I've been the one defending the team here.

I don't know exactly what happened in the McDonald case, but while not EVERY cop has a secondary income, it is VERY COMMON for security firms to employ off duty and retired cops. Why? Experience.

Not a part of team security 5 weeks ago? Total BS. Yes, the Niners have been playing games in SC for 5 weeks, but they have been residents of Santa Clara County for 20 plus YEARS. The new stadium was built right next to the EXISTING team headquarters. The 49ers have only been residents of SF over the last 20+ years on 10 days a year.

Why did McDonald call the cop? Perhaps his fiancé done gone nuts like it appears she did in May. Maybe he beat the crap out of her and was looking for a way out. I have no idea. No way of getting around the fact that it simply looks bad. This is also very likely why the investigation took so long to turn over to the DA.

The cop BTW has been barred from working for the team until the investigation is concluded. He is NOT the only cop employed by the team or a security service working for the team. All NFL teams do this BTW. What's really in question here is WHY did Ray call the guy and WHAT did the guy do while onsite. If Ray did this and the cop tried to cover it up, BOTH need to be canned. Immediately.

I will say this tho...if that off duty cop was onsite and works with the team, he may have given the team information on what transpired and might be why they are backing McDonald thus far.

I'll wait to see what comes of it before I comment further.

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Total BS Marvin? I will bet you a month of non-posting here that those officers from SJPD just came on board with the team this season. That I can find something to prove it and that you cannot find something to prove that the group of 20 or less have been with the players/team prior to this season.

If you cannot see the major conflict of interest here, you really are the blind defender of stupidity that many claim.

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First off...I can't guarantee one way or the other that a particular officer has worked for the team for 5 weeks. My point was that peeps always assume that the Niners have been in Stanta Clara for 5 weeks and that's completely wrong. They have been in Santa Clara since 1988. They only played their Home Games in SF.

Peeps who worked for the team and especially security that TRAVELLED with the team could have been working for them any number of years.

I do see a conflict. That's why I said it certainly looks bad. That's why I want to know WHY he was called and what he did while onsite. It could be that Ray didn't know how to handle the situation and called team security not even knowing what the guy did while not working for the 49ers. It could be that Ray new EXACTLY what the guy did and was looking for special treatment. There is a sea of grey area between those two. Dunno....but it certainly looks bad and like a conflict of interest.

loafoftatupu":1xvdey0a said:

Even though the 49ers have no important official presence in San Jose, lots of group members live in the city, exactly where the higher-profile arrests of players such as Aldon Smith and Chris Culliver have drawn headlines. Garcia mentioned 17 SJPD officers work in some type of off-duty capacity for the team, most of them coming on after the organization relocated to the South Bay.

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new hires to the family

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Most isn't all.

Does it even really matter though?

5 weeks, 5 years....if they are doing the team favors, isn't it just as bad either way?

Marvin49":1zl08x8z said:

loafoftatupu":1zl08x8z said:

Even though the 49ers have no important official presence in San Jose, lots of group members live in the city, exactly where the higher-profile arrests of players such as Aldon Smith and Chris Culliver have drawn headlines. Garcia mentioned 17 SJPD officers work in some type of off-duty capacity for the team, most of them coming on after the organization relocated to the South Bay.

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new hires to the family

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Most isn't all.

Does it even really matter though?

5 weeks, 5 years....if they are doing the team favors, isn't it just as bad either way?

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Someone doesn't want to lose a bet making them unable to "defend" their teams honor...

Marvin49":28vcyakv said:

First off...I can't guarantee one way or the other that a particular officer has worked for the team for 5 weeks. My point was that peeps always assume that the Niners have been in Stanta Clara for 5 weeks and that's completely wrong. They have been in Santa Clara since 1988. They only played their Home Games in SF.

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Seriously? AGAIN? When did I mention the officer? I said cops/players. But now it looks like I am saying something I didn't again. Your fricking hose monster Assistant Police Chief was the source of the quote, not me.

Marvin49":28vcyakv said:

Peeps who worked for the team and especially security that TRAVELLED with the team could have been working for them any number of years

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Who gives a shit Marvin? Doesn't that actually make this whole thing look WORSE? I mean if the guy has been employed with the Niners for so damn long, why in the hell is he even a cop any more? If he is traveling with the team and the number to call, why is he even tied to both parties? This Stinks like a sewer. Sgt. Pritchard taking on secondary work? SGT. PRITCHARD? The guy was at the crime scene where the police were called BEFORE the black and whites got there. Spare me the possible Marvin, I am going with the probable and assuming BS being reported from the top down. I am not a stupid, blind hater. I am realistic.

Marvin49":28vcyakv said:

I do see a conflict. That's why I said it certainly looks bad. That's why I want to know WHY he was called and what he did while onsite. It could be that Ray didn't know how to handle the situation and called team security not even knowing what the guy did while not working for the 49ers. It could be that Ray new EXACTLY what the guy did and was looking for special treatment. There is a sea of grey area between those two. Dunno....but it certainly looks bad and like a conflict of interest.

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Oh, So Marvin needs to know why? You are reaching so deep that I have to wonder if you are even capable of accepting reality. Is that for real Marvin? It "could" be?... seriously? Really Marvin? Do you really think that YOU are going to find out what really happened there? Maybe from the approved reporter list? What a load of shit in Cali and from your post.

Marvin49":1uvt6j1j said:

Most isn't all.

Does it even really matter though?

5 weeks, 5 years....if they are doing the team favors, isn't it just as bad either way?

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You said TOTAL BS Marvin. Not partial BS, not anything remotely acknowledging that in fact most of the security folks hired that are moonlighting cops are in fact new as of this year. The Chief said it, not KawaKissMyAss or Cohn. You chose to claim I made a total BS statement.

No it doesn't matter. The association in this situation is as dirty as it gets. Guard the guys, accompany, throw out the Niner fans from the game. But go to player's house after DV call? OOPS.

McDonald knew what he was doing when he called his buddy cop, and both of them knew it was illegal.

Police officers taking advantage of their position to buddy up with football players seems to be a common theme, and is a problem. They should NOT be allowed to work with or for a football team because of current and past issues.

Remember, it was off-duty Officers that accompanied Ben Rapistberger during his trips to the college bars where he would dose, the rape the girls. The reports said that off duty officers would stand outside the bathroom while it was going on. Who better to know how to get rid of evidence?

If the NFL wants to clean up their image, they need to make that change quickly. No active police officers affiliated with the NFL in any way.

loafoftatupu":18owj4fo said:

Marvin49":18owj4fo said:

Most isn't all.

Does it even really matter though?

5 weeks, 5 years....if they are doing the team favors, isn't it just as bad either way?

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You said TOTAL BS Marvin. Not partial BS, not anything remotely acknowledging that in fact most of the security folks hired that are moonlighting cops are in fact new as of this year. The Chief said it, not KawaKissMyAss or Cohn. You chose to claim I made a total BS statement.

No it doesn't matter. The association in this situation is as dirty as it gets. Guard the guys, accompany, throw out the Niner fans from the game. But go to player's house after DV call? OOPS.

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I actually don't have a problem with off-duty cops working security for the team. That would seem to be the right place to find qualified people.

What I do have a problem with is one of those guys trying to protect a player from the law.

THAT is why I want to know what McDonald told him and what he did while on the scene. Clearly didn't help McDonald that much as he was arrested anyway, but if that cop tried to prevent an arrest to protect a client, there is a serious problem.

You know what's funny? Marvin would have had a field day around here if we had defended the Seahawks as vigorously during our string of PED hits a couple years ago as he defends the 49ers now. We've been rather easy on him, and I'm not certain he deserves it.

RolandDeschain":308pddgm said:

You know what's funny? Marvin would have had a field day around here if we had defended the Seahawks as vigorously during our string of PED hits a couple years ago as he defends the 49ers now. We've been rather easy on him, and I'm not certain he deserves it.

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When have I said ANYTHING about PEDs? If I've said ANYTHING ever on this site it's been in support because ALL teams will eventually get stung by players taking PEDs.

Come on man...don't put words in my mouth. I've defended my team, but I've never attacked anyone here on PEDs etc.