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  • IndyHawk wrote:Mitch Haniger is a Ninja!
    One of best trades I have ever seen the M's make.
    This guy is so good in clutch situations..Wow



    Segura and Haniger for Taijuan Walker. That will make up for the Ortiz and Varitek trades from back in the day.
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  • IndyHawk wrote:Mitch Haniger is a Ninja!
    One of best trades I have ever seen the M's make.
    This guy is so good in clutch situations..Wow


    When he took the plate I said out loud, "welp, may as well call it a walk off sweep now". Sure as shit, goodbye baseball. Such an impactful trade, my god.
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  • IndyHawk wrote:Mitch Haniger is a Ninja!
    One of best trades I have ever seen the M's make.
    This guy is so good in clutch situations..Wow

    Yeah Mitch AND Segura came in that trade. Then say you shouldn’t judge a trade until 3 years have passed. Screw that!
    The M’s not only WON that trade, they DOMINATED that trade!
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  • SmokinHawk wrote:
    IndyHawk wrote:Mitch Haniger is a Ninja!
    One of best trades I have ever seen the M's make.
    This guy is so good in clutch situations..Wow


    When he took the plate I said out loud, "welp, may as well call it a walk off sweep now". Sure as shit, goodbye baseball. Such an impactful trade, my god.

    It’s an awesome feeling when you feel it, call it, and it happens.
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  • Sports Hernia wrote:
    IndyHawk wrote:Mitch Haniger is a Ninja!
    One of best trades I have ever seen the M's make.
    This guy is so good in clutch situations..Wow

    Yeah Mitch AND Segura came in that trade. Then say you shouldn’t judge a trade until 3 years have passed. Screw that!
    The M’s not only WON that trade, they DOMINATED that trade!


    Best Mariners trade since we flipped Phelps for Buhner.
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  • Maulbert wrote:
    Sports Hernia wrote:
    IndyHawk wrote:Mitch Haniger is a Ninja!
    One of best trades I have ever seen the M's make.
    This guy is so good in clutch situations..Wow

    Yeah Mitch AND Segura came in that trade. Then say you shouldn’t judge a trade until 3 years have passed. Screw that!
    The M’s not only WON that trade, they DOMINATED that trade!


    Best Mariners trade since we flipped Phelps for Buhner.

    That was a great trade, but I have a feeling this one might be better before all is said and done.
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  • Bone was a good trade also but right now with everything considered if I had to take one of two today
    I take the clutch Ninja.He makes great things happen on offense and defense.
    On another note ..Just read Jr had only one walk off his entire time with the M's..
    Very hard to believe I know.
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  • Sports Hernia wrote:
    Maulbert wrote:
    Sports Hernia wrote:
    IndyHawk wrote:Mitch Haniger is a Ninja!
    One of best trades I have ever seen the M's make.
    This guy is so good in clutch situations..Wow

    Yeah Mitch AND Segura came in that trade. Then say you shouldn’t judge a trade until 3 years have passed. Screw that!
    The M’s not only WON that trade, they DOMINATED that trade!


    Best Mariners trade since we flipped Phelps for Buhner.

    That was a great trade, but I have a feeling this one might be better before all is said and done.


    Especially when you consider that Walker had Tommy John surgery in april
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  • One of the best trades in team history, period.
    On another note, I was on a hike and when he hit the game winner, I yelled pretty loud. Dude walking towards me looked scared :lol:
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  • If Ms take 2 of 4 vs. BoSox, I think most of us would be pretty happy. If we take any more than that, holy crap! However the series plays out, get ready for a lot more runners crossing home plate.
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  • We need to win some series against the Red Sox, Yankees and Astros. The Astros have a pretty cake schedule the rest of the season aside from the games they play against us.
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  • M's are 20 games over .500
    the Orioles have 19 wins..........TOTAL
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  • It's pretty amazing and shocking how under the radar and, apparently, underrated Jean Segura is. He is literally one of the best players in MLB and I barely ever hear anyone mention him. The guy is hitting .347, has the most hits in the league, and is top 10 in most offensive stats and top 20 in the ones he's not top 10.

    Please don't take this as trying to take something away from Haniger, I really don't mean it that way. Haniger has absolutely earned all the credit he's getting for everything he's done, but Haniger would have a lot less RBI's if it wasn't for Segura constantly getting on base.

    I dunno. For some reason I just feel like Segura is not getting even remotely the love that some of the other guys are getting and I just can't for the life of me understand why.
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  • Yet, if Segura played for the Spankees or the Red Sox or Dodgers etc. the media would be all up on his nuts.
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  • XxXdragonXxX wrote:We need to win some series against the Red Sox, Yankees and Astros. The Astros have a pretty cake schedule the rest of the season aside from the games they play against us.


    If the M's can go .500 against the Red Sox, Yankees, and Astros we're probably going to be in awfully good shape. They might not be in 1st place anymore, but they'll still be right on the Astros heels. Of course, everyone is just assuming the Astros are just going to tear right through all these teams on their schedule and rack up the wins, but they still have to play the games and you never know what could happen.
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  • Chapow wrote:It's pretty amazing and shocking how under the radar and, apparently, underrated Jean Segura is. He is literally one of the best players in MLB and I barely ever hear anyone mention him. The guy is hitting .347, has the most hits in the league, and is top 10 in most offensive stats and top 20 in the ones he's not top 10.

    Please don't take this as trying to take something away from Haniger, I really don't mean it that way. Haniger has absolutely earned all the credit he's getting for everything he's done, but Haniger would have a lot less RBI's if it wasn't for Segura constantly getting on base.

    I dunno. For some reason I just feel like Segura is not getting even remotely the love that some of the other guys are getting and I just can't for the life of me understand why.


    Batting .347 is ridiculously good, and Segura isn't just a one trick pony who whacks singles. He's had a fair number of doubles and RBIs.
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  • SmokinHawk wrote:Batting .347 is ridiculously good, and Segura isn't just a one trick pony who whacks singles. He's had a fair number of doubles and RBIs.


    Yep. Tied for 7th in the league for doubles, tied for 10th in the league for RBI's. The only Mariner with more RBI's is Haniger.
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  • Segura and Haniger are the best kept secrets in MLB right now. Nobody gives them any credit nor recognition, and I kinda like it that way. Teams keep running on Haniger's arm, no matter how many times they get gunned down. Nobody intentionally walks Haniger nor Segura, even though Haniger's 2nd in MLB RBI and Segura's tops in hits and avg. If I were the oppo manager, I'd rather take my chances with Cruz, even though he can blast one outta the park.

    Now, after last night's euphoric walk-off, we have to come back down to Earth and face the reality of a Felix-start game. Sigh. I never thought I'd see the day where I dread having Felix on the mound more than any of the other 4 pitchers in the rotation.

    Here's to Felix pitching to his strengths (mixing up off-speed stuff) instead of his nostalgia/weakness (fastball). :irishdrinkers:

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  • Segura's problem is that there are several great SS around the league that get more press.

    IIRC, they were quoting a stat the other night where the Segura/Hanny connnection generates the most runs around the league. Hanny has hit Segura in almost 20 times already this year. Pretty amazing.

    So, basically, Segura is in a contest (thinking of the AS game) with several other guys for one spot, where Hanny is competing with a few guys for one of 3 spots. Beyond Trout, I'm not sure there are many OF I'd take over Hanny.
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  • Over/Under 4 ER's given up by Felix tonight?

    I'm hoping he is up for the challenge, but also wouldn't shock me if he got hammered. If he fails tonight got to think Dipoto has to contemplate giving Elias or someone else a try as the fifth starter. Divish told my dad that Felix just doesn't have the great work ethic like a lot of the guys around the league. His entire life he has been the best whenever he has taken the field. Hard to tell a guy to work for it when he is into his 30's when all he had to do was show up in the past.
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  • Hawk-Lock wrote:Over/Under 4 ER's given up by Felix tonight?

    I'm hoping he is up for the challenge, but also wouldn't shock me if he got hammered. If he fails tonight got to think Dipoto has to contemplate giving Elias or someone else a try as the fifth starter. Divish told my dad that Felix just doesn't have the great work ethic like a lot of the guys around the league. His entire life he has been the best whenever he has taken the field. Hard to tell a guy to work for it when he is into his 30's when all he had to do was show up in the past.


    I think he had to do a little bit more than "show up in the past" but point taken. Hard to change deep rooted habits when you've done one thing your entire life.
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  • Hawk-Lock wrote:Over/Under 4 ER's given up by Felix tonight?

    I'm hoping he is up for the challenge, but also wouldn't shock me if he got hammered. If he fails tonight got to think Dipoto has to contemplate giving Elias or someone else a try as the fifth starter. Divish told my dad that Felix just doesn't have the great work ethic like a lot of the guys around the league. His entire life he has been the best whenever he has taken the field. Hard to tell a guy to work for it when he is into his 30's when all he had to do was show up in the past.



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  • Very solid outing by Felix tonight against probably the best offense in baseball. Gave us a chance, hopefully they can pull it out.

    Kyle Seager continues to play outstanding defense. He should be in line for his 2nd gold glove if he continues playing like this.

    Let's go boys, score some runs!
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  • You must have Seager bunt at that point in the game. He is hitting .230 and you need to move the runners. Piss poor management tonight.
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  • Small ball is ok in the 5th inning but not the 9th inning, I guess. But then again I don't think I've ever seen Seager sac bunt.
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  • Yeah, I can't really get behind the way that the bottom of the 9th was handled. Hanniger and a pinch runner on first, no outs, Seager at the plate hitting .230 and you DON'T sac bunt to move the runners over and get rid of the double play groundball?

    Awful management there IMO.
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  • JGfromtheNW wrote:Yeah, I can't really get behind the way that the bottom of the 9th was handled. Hanniger and a pinch runner on first, no outs, Seager at the plate hitting .230 and you DON'T sac bunt to move the runners over and get rid of the double play groundball?

    Awful management there IMO.


    You also know Healy is coming up to the plate with zero speed. So almost anything hit in the infield is a double play. I understand why people don't want Seager bunting in that situation but if he would have squared up to bunt on the 0-1 count I think you would have had runners on 2nd and 3rd. Seager looked like he didn't even belong at the plate.
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    JGfromtheNW wrote:Yeah, I can't really get behind the way that the bottom of the 9th was handled. Hanniger and a pinch runner on first, no outs, Seager at the plate hitting .230 and you DON'T sac bunt to move the runners over and get rid of the double play groundball?

    Awful management there IMO.


    You also know Healy is coming up to the plate with zero speed. So almost anything hit in the infield is a double play. I understand why people don't want Seager bunting in that situation but if he would have squared up to bunt on the 0-1 count I think you would have had runners on 2nd and 3rd. Seager looked like he didn't even belong at the plate.


    Exactly. Seager looked about as uncomfortable at the plate there as Freitas looked the other day. This is all hindsight, but you gotta play small ball there and grind a run out to make it a new ball game.

    Servais is kinda a wet blanket when it comes to in-game management. He's kinda like Pete in that he's an awesome coach in a lot of ways... but come game time he just freezes or mismanages situations. IMO he's not very good at managing pitchers/bullpen and terrible about playing situational small ball.

    I don't mean to rag on the guy. I'll take 19 games above .500 any day of the week. It's just one of those situations where you're left desiring just a little bit more.
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  • ^that and also shows you how M's need better contact hitters moving forward. Zunino is not the guy and Seager isn't getting any younger. It's almost as if Romine or somebody else should have pinch hit sac bunted for Seager in that situation.
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  • Crizilla wrote:^that and also shows you how M's need better contact hitters moving forward. Zunino is not the guy and Seager isn't getting any younger. It's almost as if Romine or somebody else should have pinch hit sac bunted for Seager in that situation.

    Yeah, Zunino is who he is. A very streaky power hitter. He'll have a few runs like he did last June here and there, but it's fools gold. Seager is the most anti clutch player I can remember. He kills any momentum when it's a prime opportunity or last chance situation. There's some intriguing infield prospects, especially in high A Modesto right now. Hopefully they can keep it up and earn a good look from Dipoto. Seager should be traded. Addition by subtraction.

    Tough loss, but they were in it until the end. 19 over .500 is outstanding though. This series will be a good one.
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  • Seager and Zunino are kinda birds of a feather: they play awesome gold-glove defense, but can't hit for squat when the game's on the line. We're not gonna get rid of our best defensive catcher and best defensive 3rd baseman. Their defensive-runs-saved somewhat balances out their lack of hitting, but eventually it'll catch up to us at some point.

    I feel bad that Felix pitched a gem and lost by 1 run. It seems like we're NEVER able to beat Price, for some gosh darn reason. I know he's good, but geez....how many years can he dominate us with every outing?
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  • Seager sucks at bunting. If you take him out and we do tie it, u put romine at 3rd who struggled yesterday at 3rd.

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  • Teams just aren't bunting anymore, stats show it. Teams value outs more than ever. It's just the new way of baseball. I would have bunted there, but I understand the reasoning not to. SABR stats show that bunting doesn't help you. Also not a given Seager would have gotten the bunt down. When is the last time he has bunted in a game? Not to mention against a guy as great as Kimbrell.

    Great game, the difference might have been Haniger dropping that catch which allowed the Sox to score their first run. I know it wasn't an error, but he's got to catch that.

    Hopefully Paxton can tie the series up tonight.
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  • I had the same argument. I'd rather they don't let a guy who is barely batting .200 swing away there. Lay down a bunt, which they wouldn't expect from him, and now you have the WINNING run at 2nd base/tying run at 3rd.
    He has more K's than hits this year. I see both sides, but he sat there and let TWO perfect pitches go by him. It accomplished nothing for him to sit there with the bat on his shoulders. Next batter hits in to an easy double play.
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  • SoulfishHawk wrote:I had the same argument. I'd rather they don't let a guy who is barely batting .200 swing away there. Lay down a bunt, which they wouldn't expect from him, and now you have the WINNING run at 2nd base/tying run at 3rd.
    He has more K's than hits this year. I see both sides, but he sat there and let TWO perfect pitches go by him. It accomplished nothing for him to sit there with the bat on his shoulders. Next batter hits in to an easy double play.

    Yeah, this. Nothing annoys me more than a guy staring at a called 3rd strike. I guess he did "check swing" at it. But, still. :34853_doh:

    Whatever happened to protecting the plate with 2 strikes? How could he not foul that off. I'm usually patient with Seagar's slow starts, but this year is the wrong year to do that.
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  • Bunting and playing small ball aren't the hotness in the MLB right now, but there are situations in games like last night where you have runners at 1st and 2nd and no outs in the bottom of the 9th... you need to scrape one run in any way possible and prevent a game ending double play. If Seager pops out or strikes/fouls out trying to lay down a bunt, at least you can say they tried to do the right thing -- and nothing really changes as far as results go.

    If Seager isn't capable of bunting, you need to bring in Romine or another player to pinch hit and lay a bunt down. If you don't have a player that can come in and do that, IMO that's a huge hole on your roster. I'd like to see a team who has a real winning culture, and by that I mean one that's going to fight tooth and nail to their last out and play smart baseball, or they're going to step on your throat when they've got the lead. Sitting on our laurels and just letting our players swing away is pretty poor management in these types of situations.
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  • And if he lays down a successful bunt, now you have the WINNING run on 2nd. I just wanted them to play to win, not just to tie. Then if they pitch out of it, you tip your cap. And their pitching was damn good anyway.
    Also, he had thrown 10 straight balls. You gotta' know as a batter than he's gonna' throw fastballs.
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  • Pretty sure Ms are first in the league in sac bunts. Seager can't bunt (I don't know why) but he can't. Runners on 1st and 2nd no out you HAVE to at least move the runners over. Baseball 101. Servais dun goofed again.
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  • I guess I look at it a little different. He's been playing baseball his entire life. I think they all should be able to lay down a bunt.
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  • Crizilla wrote:Pretty sure Ms are first in the league in sac bunts. Seager can't bunt (I don't know why) but he can't. Runners on 1st and 2nd no out you HAVE to at least move the runners over. Baseball 101. Servais dun goofed again.


    Why “can’t” he bunt though? Perhaps because he’s slow and it will never beat one out so he think it’s a waste of time to really learn even though there could be times it could help the team? Seems to me it’s a bit of a selfish mentality. Something about Seager has always rubbed me the wrong way, even when he was pretty good. I think this kind of is a microcosm of that
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  • With that shift, it would be gravy for him to lay down a bunt imo
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  • therealjohncarlson wrote:
    Crizilla wrote:Pretty sure Ms are first in the league in sac bunts. Seager can't bunt (I don't know why) but he can't. Runners on 1st and 2nd no out you HAVE to at least move the runners over. Baseball 101. Servais dun goofed again.


    Why “can’t” he bunt though? Perhaps because he’s slow and it will never beat one out so he think it’s a waste of time to really learn even though there could be times it could help the team? Seems to me it’s a bit of a selfish mentality. Something about Seager has always rubbed me the wrong way, even when he was pretty good. I think this kind of is a microcosm of that[/quote

    Everytime he bunts, he fouls it off. He needs to work on that and beating the shift.
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  • SoulfishHawk wrote:With that shift, it would be gravy for him to lay down a bunt imo

    I remember seeing him try once or twice, but like was said, he sucks at it.

    The modern game is all about stats and homers. It seems like not many players are interested in the team aspect. M's players talk about it in interviews, "moving the chain" they call it. But when push comes to shove, they get over agressive and swing for the fences, and strike out looking bad. Oh well.

    Until hitters start laying down bunts and going with the pitch to the opposite field, the shift will continue, and I hate the switch. I know the numbers support it, but only because too many hitters are trying to pull the ball for power instead of getting safe hits and advancing runners. So many times it seems that they're getting safe hits on us right through spots where a player would be in a normal set.
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