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  • Wow, Oakland now 1 game behind for the West! Damn.
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  • Seattle done.
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  • It ain't over til it's over.
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  • LymonHawk wrote:It ain't over til it's over.



    Why get my hopes up? I slowly died when they lost the 11 game lead. I died even more last night. I died thinking we would be best in NL this yr.

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  • Andrew Romine pitched a scoreless inning last night-much better than LeBlanc and Bergman. So there's that for positives.
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  • raisethe3 wrote:Wow, Oakland now 1 game behind for the West! Damn.


    They just might beat Boston or Houston in the playoffs too. They're that good.
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  • Oakland is hot but I wouldn't be afraid of them in the playoffs. If I could choose any team to play, they'd be my choice. There is definitely something magical about them right now though.

    I kind of agree with Shane. It isn't over, but it really is. If that makes sense. We will keep it within striking distance, but this team isn't making up 4 games with less than 40 games to go. We just aren't trending in the right direction, other than the Houston series, this team hasn't played well for well over a month now. Since July, this is the team we all expected before the season started. Innings are now catching up with Marco, which is why they are skipping his Sunday start. LeBlanc is regressing, and Paxton is hurt. If the team can get some momentum and go on a run, sure they can make the wild card, but they are yet to show that. I think there is a better chance of a 3 game slide in the near future than going on a 3 game winning streak. This team team was set up for a race, not a marathon. The entire team looks fatigued, particularly the pitching. I'm not shocked that Cano hasn't created a spark in the team. I've always thought of him as a great player but not a leader. I've always felt like he's here to cash paychecks rather than win.
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  • Balk Off Win. We'll take it!

    And Oakland is now tied for 1st.
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  • 3 game series with Houston coming up starting Monday. This is going to be a big test.
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  • Down early to LA, 5-0. And they swiped 3 bags. No respect for Elias. And rightfully so. He's atrocious. This team is so depressing
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  • Got 'em just where we want 'em. :snack:

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  • Thepeelsessions wrote:Down early to LA, 5-0. And they swiped 3 bags. No respect for Elias. And rightfully so. He's atrocious. This team is so depressing


    Meanwhile, Segura is at home breastfeeding his infant.
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  • Like I said, this team is basically done. Right now our current rotation is Mike Leake, Wade LeBlanc, Elias, Erasamo Ramirez, and Felix Herndadez. Obviously that rotation won’t last long, but that is what we are dealing with. This game was basically lost before it even started based on the pitching matchup, and you can almost say the same about tomorrow’s game.
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  • How fitting. A 9 pitch bottom of the 9th. :34853_doh:

    I got yelled at for calling them pathetic last week. Can we call them that now that they've proven they can't hit big league pitching.

    We just got out-scored 27-7 across 3 games. :pukeface:
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  • sutz wrote:How fitting. A 9 pitch bottom of the 9th. :34853_doh:

    I got yelled at for calling them pathetic last week. Can we call them that now that they've proven they can't hit big league pitching.

    We just got out-scored 27-7 across 3 games. :pukeface:

    Yep, an ugly trend. :vodka:
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  • sutz wrote:How fitting. A 9 pitch bottom of the 9th. :34853_doh:

    I got yelled at for calling them pathetic last week. Can we call them that now that they've proven they can't hit big league pitching.

    We just got out-scored 27-7 across 3 games. :pukeface:


    Yelled at? :roll:

    Get a grip. I simply stated that I didn't see how losing 2 of 3 to the hottest team in baseball, by only 1 run, is pathetic. And I absolutely stand by that statement. I don't agree that the series in Oakland last week was pathetic.

    Losing 11-1 and 12-1? Yeah, I'd say those were pretty pathetic performances by the M's.
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  • Whoever decided Felix was the pitcher tonight needs to go on the unemployment line. This series was uber important.
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  • Atradees wrote:Whoever decided Felix was the pitcher tonight needs to go on the unemployment line. This series was uber important.


    If he can't be the 7th starter on your staff then he shouldn't be on the team period. Hard to blame Servis for giving him the ball.
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  • getnasty wrote:
    Atradees wrote:Whoever decided Felix was the pitcher tonight needs to go on the unemployment line. This series was uber important.


    If he can't be the 7th starter on your staff then he shouldn't be on the team period. Hard to blame Servis for giving him the ball.

    5 innings so far, 4 runs. Not a quality start but keeping us in the game. If he can finish 6, it'll at least spare the pen a bit.
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  • Felix finishes 6 with only 4 runs given up. I can live with that.

    Gamel is smoking the ball tonight. :2thumbs:
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  • Nice job Robinson on that HR! Let's close this game now.
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  • Damn fine win. 2 more saves and Servais has to get his hair cut. :mrgreen:

    Nice to see some offense for a change. Nice to see them score in more than 1 or 2 innings in a game.

    Kyle was the only 0-fer. :laugh:

    A's won, so pressure is on Houston now. :snack:
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  • Sucks balls that the mariners pick a year where 90 odd wins doesnt make the play offs.

    Feel theres a chance the Astros could have a WS hangover and not get in but the Mariners need to show up on their end of it. A's look unstoppable.
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  • Glasgow Seahawk wrote:Sucks balls that the mariners pick a year where 90 odd wins doesnt make the play offs.

    Feel theres a chance the Astros could have a WS hangover and not get in but the Mariners need to show up on their end of it. A's look unstoppable.

    If we could take this series it would be a good step in the right direction. We still have a few games against the A's. :pray:
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  • I still think A's will regress at some point and i hope we are right there when it does.
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  • Shanegotyou11 wrote:I still think A's will regress at some point and i hope we are right there when it does.


    Even if they do somewhat, it won’t matter if we continue to play sub 500 (or 500 for that matter) ball
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  • therealjohncarlson wrote:
    Shanegotyou11 wrote:I still think A's will regress at some point and i hope we are right there when it does.


    Even if they do somewhat, it won’t matter if we continue to play sub 500 (or 500 for that matter) ball


    Sure. However i thinj we will get hot again.
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  • Seager is trash unfortunately.
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  • Shanegotyou11 wrote:Seager is trash unfortunately.

    Can someone who is better at player analysis than me shed some light on how much of seager’s struggles these last couple years is due to the shift being used against him and him not being able to adjust vs him just crashing down to earth after a pretty good career start?
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  • therealjohncarlson wrote:
    Shanegotyou11 wrote:Seager is trash unfortunately.

    Can someone who is better at player analysis than me shed some light on how much of seager’s struggles these last couple years is due to the shift being used against him and him not being able to adjust vs him just crashing down to earth after a pretty good career start?



    I think it ruined him mentally. And once you start getting in your own head, you are in trouble. He is a pull hitter and they were trying to teach him to go opposite since such a wide hole on the left side of the infield. It didnt work and he slumped and has stayed in the slump all year and now it seems like he isnt having much fun.

    The shift has taken away alot of hits from players and especially kyle Seager. They try to pitch him inside and tight hoping he rolls over into the shift. They will change from inside and high to inside and low. Then go outside at times. My issue is his plate discipline this year has been horrible. He decides to swing no matter what it seems before the pitcher has released the ball.

    They benched him today for Cano. They can make excuses why but they benched him. You dont rest star players with 35 games left and down 4 games unless hurt or hurting the team. For all i know he may be hurt and we will find out after the year he played with a torn bicep. I doubt it imho.

    The shift ruined him mentally.
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  • Other than Diaz, the Mariners don't have the pitching to compete. Oakland and Houston are both in the top 10 in team ERA. http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/team-stats/sp-vw-pitching

    The teams they are competing with Boston, NYY, Oak, and Houston have better pitching than the M's. All in the top 10 in team ERA. The M's are 18th in team ERA. Good pitching can overcome hitting. Especially when teams are about even in everything else.
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  • therealjohncarlson wrote:
    Shanegotyou11 wrote:Seager is trash unfortunately.

    Can someone who is better at player analysis than me shed some light on how much of seager’s struggles these last couple years is due to the shift being used against him and him not being able to adjust vs him just crashing down to earth after a pretty good career start?


    It's all mechanics. Some hitters just can't hit the ball the other way. Usually the deciding factors are hip movement and the ability to keep your hands in and "slap" the ball the other way. Timing is also a factor. When batters "pull" the ball they are usually milliseconds too early on the swing. But even then you could pull a pitch for a home run or a base hit. That's why if a pitcher is good at changing speeds it usually results in success assuming his location is on target because the batters don't know what speed is coming. Could be a change up....could be a fast ball. Felix is struggling mainly because his fast ball is dead. Jeter was REALLY good at hitting the ball to the opposite side. But yeah, we are stuck with Seager until 2021 under that 7 year 100 million dollar deal.

    M's have only won 2 series since the all star break :(
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  • Good win tonight. Hopefully the bats stick around for a while. This team was built to be an offensive team, not a pitching and defense team. Our pitchers have actually outperformed what was expected of them mostly. If this teams going to win it needs it's offense to carry the team like they planned from the beginning.
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  • DJrmb wrote:Good win tonight. Hopefully the bats stick around for a while. This team was built to be an offensive team, not a pitching and defense team. Our pitchers have actually outperformed what was expected of them mostly. If this teams going to win it needs it's offense to carry the team like they planned from the beginning.



    Shows what a impact cano is.
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  • You just can't say enough about Diaz' Cy Young caliber season. 49 saves now, 2.00 era, 108 k in 63 inn, only 33 hits, only 15 BB. Hit 100 last night and is showing no signs of fatigue.

    Relievers used to fairly regularly win the Cy Young in the 80s and early 90s but not anymore. A shame because if the M's miss the postseason, the media will forget Diaz' phenomenal year.
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  • Oakland and Houston are battling on Monday for a three game series. Who should the Mariners root for?

    I think a sweep would be more idealistic rather than a 2-1 or 1-2 split. Because it gives the Mariners all the chances they need to keep up in the race.
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  • Well, good quality start from Frenchy LeBlanc. 6 innings, 4 hit, 1 run.

    Haniger with a lead off homer in the 1st, but they leave like 12 guys on base, going 1 for 7 with RISP through 8. Twice have bases loaded with less than 2 out and get zip out of it. :34853_doh:

    We manage to tie it top 9, though, and then Span splashes one in the pool in right center for the winner.

    Sugar hits 50 saves, after a struggle. But still, Servais will get his haircut. :mrgreen:
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  • raisethe3 wrote:Oakland and Houston are battling on Monday for a three game series. Who should the Mariners root for?

    I think a sweep would be more idealistic rather than a 2-1 or 1-2 split. Because it gives the Mariners all the chances they need to keep up in the race.


    Honestly im hoping for a sweep by Houston. Then hope Ms win tomorrow and take two from SD. That would leave mariners 2 games back with 4 game set in Oakland with 29 games left.
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  • sutz wrote:Well, good quality start from Frenchy LeBlanc. 6 innings, 4 hit, 1 run.

    Haniger with a lead off homer in the 1st, but they leave like 12 guys on base, going 1 for 7 with RISP through 8. Twice have bases loaded with less than 2 out and get zip out of it. :34853_doh:

    We manage to tie it top 9, though, and then Span splashes one in the pool in right center for the winner.

    Sugar hits 50 saves, after a struggle. But still, Servais will get his haircut. :mrgreen:


    Lets sweep tomorrow. Hope twins upset Oakland. that'd leave us 3 back. Then we go to S D for two game set while Oakland travels to Houston for a 3 game set.
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  • Shanegotyou11 wrote:
    sutz wrote:Well, good quality start from Frenchy LeBlanc. 6 innings, 4 hit, 1 run.

    Haniger with a lead off homer in the 1st, but they leave like 12 guys on base, going 1 for 7 with RISP through 8. Twice have bases loaded with less than 2 out and get zip out of it. :34853_doh:

    We manage to tie it top 9, though, and then Span splashes one in the pool in right center for the winner.

    Sugar hits 50 saves, after a struggle. But still, Servais will get his haircut. :mrgreen:


    Lets sweep tomorrow. Hope twins upset Oakland. that'd leave us 3 back. Then we go to S D for two game set while Oakland travels to Houston for a 3 game set.

    Well, I don't worry too much about what Hou or Oak do. We can't control that. Yeah, a sweep would be fantastic, and we should be able to take both against SD. All we can do is win our games and keep pace. With 32 games to go and 5 back, we need all the wins we can scrape together.
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  • sutz wrote:
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    sutz wrote:Well, good quality start from Frenchy LeBlanc. 6 innings, 4 hit, 1 run.

    Haniger with a lead off homer in the 1st, but they leave like 12 guys on base, going 1 for 7 with RISP through 8. Twice have bases loaded with less than 2 out and get zip out of it. :34853_doh:

    We manage to tie it top 9, though, and then Span splashes one in the pool in right center for the winner.

    Sugar hits 50 saves, after a struggle. But still, Servais will get his haircut. :mrgreen:


    Lets sweep tomorrow. Hope twins upset Oakland. that'd leave us 3 back. Then we go to S D for two game set while Oakland travels to Houston for a 3 game set.

    Well, I don't worry too much about what Hou or Oak do. We can't control that. Yeah, a sweep would be fantastic, and we should be able to take both against SD. All we can do is win our games and keep pace. With 32 games to go and 5 back, we need all the wins we can scrape together.



    Yea i over analyze it. Lol. Its crazy to think unless one of the AL West teams just crash and burn that a 90+ team wont make a WC game let alone the second WC game.

    I believe its like 90.5 wins gets you wc #1. 87.5 gets you wc #2.

    So on a "normal" year the mariners would have to 11-21 for wc #2 and 14-18 for WC #1.

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  • I’m kind of with Shane here, when we no longer control our own destiny, we have to pay attention to the other teams. I’m hoping we can gain at least a game or two before our series in Oakland. If you are a Mariner fan, you have to root for Houston when they play Oakland. We aren’t making up 5 games on Houston. They are healthy again and they finish the season against Toronto and Baltimore. I still think we miss the playoffs just barely, which would be fitting for this team.
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  • Hawk-Lock wrote:I’m kind of with Shane here, when we no longer control our own destiny, we have to pay attention to the other teams. I’m hoping we can gain at least a game or two before our series in Oakland. If you are a Mariner fan, you have to root for Houston when they play Oakland. We aren’t making up 5 games on Houston. They are healthy again and they finish the season against Toronto and Baltimore. I still think we miss the playoffs just barely, which would be fitting for this team.



    It sucks that we probably will win 93-94 wins and might miss the playoffs. That is usually a WC #1 spot. Smh.

    If we we can be two back of oakland going into Oakland, itl be exciting as crap.
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  • Wow, bases loaded with 1 out and you got nothing?! Seriously, that's not the type of teams that performs like that in October. :roll:
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  • Guess I jinxed them :|

    Leake was beat by the shift. In a normal alignment that infield dribbler would have been the 3d out of the inning. I hate the shift. :evil:

    Still too many left on base. We seem to have trouble with these soft throwing pitchers.
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  • sutz wrote:Guess I jinxed them :|

    Leake was beat by the shift. In a normal alignment that infield dribbler would have been the 3d out of the inning. I hate the shift. :evil:

    Still too many left on base. We seem to have trouble with these soft throwing pitchers.

    I don’t mind less severe shifts, but the extreme shifts that Seattle uses I wouldn’t.

    ......but if I was playing defense against Kyle Seager, I’d have all 4 infielders to the right of 2nd base.
    The guy can not hit the ball to the left side to save his life.
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  • Did we shift toward third base against a lefty on that at-bat, or did I see it wrong?
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  • Threedee wrote:Did we shift toward third base against a lefty on that at-bat, or did I see it wrong?

    Not exactly. Seagar was close to 3rd because there was a base runner there. 1st and 3rd. Segura was playing just to the right of second base and deep. Gordon was playing about halfway into right field.

    I agree with the guy above, playing the 2d baseman so deep in right field is an invite to what happened there, a dribbler that barely clears the mound and the pitcher, but is a slow roller for the guys playing so far out of position.
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  • Playoffs chances are shrinking. We won an impressive series, yet we lost ground in the standings. 5.5 games with only 31 games left is a big deficit. Yes I know we have 7 games with Oakland, but a 4-3 win means we only make up one game. I honestly think we would need to beat them 5-2 in the head to head just to have a chance to pass them. Nothing has suggested we can win that many games against them. They might just be the better team. And please no more depending on Paxton as an ace, the guy is tissue paper soft.
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