If the NFL can send teams to England... why can't the MLS?

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  • We saw Manchester United come to Seattle and play against the Sounders, I don't see why can't the MLS send teams to England and play against teams in the Premier League. Sure, MLS teams would probably get their asses handed to them but I would kinda want to see MLS teams cross the pond and play EPL teams. We already saw EPL teams come to America and play.
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  • NASLs MN United did a tour this last summer, playing Derby at one point. I know the Red Bulls have played in Arsenals preseason tournament as well..

    In the end I don't imagine the English fans are all that curious about MLS teams. due to the calendar differences MLS teams would be giving regular season game up to play there and again I cant see the interest to warrant that move
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  • The same reason NFL Europe didn't send teams here.
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  • Schedules run differently. No European team will ever play an MLS team in the middle of their season, maybe their B or development teams. European teams usually make a fair amount of money in appearance fees when they come to the states for their preseason friendlies.
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    Those teams don't come here for free, and to go there to entice attendance who is going to pony up that money?
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  • Because, with respect, not many people in the UK could name an MLS team never mind get off their arse and go and watch them.

    I believe that Team USA are playing Colombia at Fulham FC tomorrow and I'd be very surprised if that was well attended.
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  • UK_Seahawk wrote:Because, with respect, not many people in the UK could name an MLS team never mind get off their arse and go and watch them.

    I believe that Team USA are playing Colombia at Fulham FC tomorrow and I'd be very surprised if that was well attended.



    Game is the 14th (I had to look it up)..

    Strange one that is. Where's England going to be?
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  • The reason for "friendlies" is to expand your brand and make money.

    Big clubs travel in order to expand their brands, attract new fans and make money. When the Sounders host big clubs like Man U, Chelsea or Barca? Those big clubs get the lion's share of ticket sales.

    So going in reverse wouldn't work. No one in Europe or South America is going to pay money to see the Sounders play one of their clubs.
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  • Uncle Si wrote:
    UK_Seahawk wrote:Because, with respect, not many people in the UK could name an MLS team never mind get off their arse and go and watch them.

    I believe that Team USA are playing Colombia at Fulham FC tomorrow and I'd be very surprised if that was well attended.



    Game is the 14th (I had to look it up)..

    Strange one that is. Where's England going to be?


    England play the day after at Wembley in a qualifier for Euro 2016.

    Fox apparently has the rights to the FA cup this year and they will be showing Braintree Town V Chesterfield if you guys want to see some proper football.
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  • UK_Seahawk wrote:Because, with respect, not many people in the UK could name an MLS team never mind get off their arse and go and watch them.

    I believe that Team USA are playing Colombia at Fulham FC tomorrow and I'd be very surprised if that was well attended.

    I agree with this..yet English fans could name a nfl team and either support or have a soft spot for a nfl team.
    as an arsenal fan I was not happy we played red bulls in new York..was it to support the fans or support the boards bank balance..could a MLS team play in Europe..no..likewise could a nfl team play in England..i doubt it..but more chance of that working than soccer in my opinion.
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  • UK_Seahawk wrote:
    Fox apparently has the rights to the FA cup this year and they will be showing Braintree Town V Chesterfield if you guys want to see some proper football.



    You just made those names up....

    is it first round? (or 6th round if you will).

    Also, any ideas of what clubs (or more, what levels of cubs) are entering squads in the FA Youth Cup?
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  • Sgt. Largent wrote:The reason for "friendlies" is to expand your brand and make money.

    Big clubs travel in order to expand their brands, attract new fans and make money. When the Sounders host big clubs like Man U, Chelsea or Barca? Those big clubs get the lion's share of ticket sales.

    So going in reverse wouldn't work. No one in Europe or South America is going to pay money to see the Sounders play one of their clubs.



    Well this isnt entirely true. I'm certain supporters will come out to see their own clubs for any game. However, it would not have the allure and draw as it does here because the product there is so much better. I think more than anything is what would the motivation be for the MLS clubs. Have to figure teams like Fulham, West Brom, Southampton (decent Premier teams who dont come to the US) would be hosting, and doubt they would give up much of their ticket sales to the visiting club, as really they would be the attraction.

    What certainly would not work is two MLS teams playing each other.
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  • UK_Seahawk wrote:Because, with respect, not many people in the UK could name an MLS team never mind get off their arse and go and watch them.

    I believe that Team USA are playing Colombia at Fulham FC tomorrow and I'd be very surprised if that was well attended.


    Uh... why is the US and Colombia having a international friendly outside of their home countries on a another continent? Shouldn't they be playing in their own nations?
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  • korboko wrote:
    UK_Seahawk wrote:Because, with respect, not many people in the UK could name an MLS team never mind get off their arse and go and watch them.

    I believe that Team USA are playing Colombia at Fulham FC tomorrow and I'd be very surprised if that was well attended.


    Uh... why is the US and Colombia having a international friendly outside of their home countries on a another continent? Shouldn't they be playing in their own nations?



    Only thing I can think of is the domestic league for the US is still going on during the international break. Other than that, yes, its curious.

    Might just be to get the boys out and seeing the world?
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  • Uncle Si wrote:
    Sgt. Largent wrote:The reason for "friendlies" is to expand your brand and make money.

    Big clubs travel in order to expand their brands, attract new fans and make money. When the Sounders host big clubs like Man U, Chelsea or Barca? Those big clubs get the lion's share of ticket sales.

    So going in reverse wouldn't work. No one in Europe or South America is going to pay money to see the Sounders play one of their clubs.



    Well this isnt entirely true. I'm certain supporters will come out to see their own clubs for any game. However, it would not have the allure and draw as it does here because the product there is so much better. I think more than anything is what would the motivation be for the MLS clubs. Have to figure teams like Fulham, West Brom, Southampton (decent Premier teams who dont come to the US) would be hosting, and doubt they would give up much of their ticket sales to the visiting club, as really they would be the attraction.r.


    The product is actually pretty equal because when the big clubs come here during the summer it's their preseason and the middle of our regular season. That's why you see a lot of MLS teams playing very well against superior opponents. The Sounders drew 3-3 against Tottenham this past summer.

    Which brings up another reason this wouldn't work in reverse. The MLS preseason is January-March, which is the middle of the season for the top leagues.........and those teams couldn't be bothered with playing MLS friendlies.
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  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:
    Sgt. Largent wrote:The reason for "friendlies" is to expand your brand and make money.

    Big clubs travel in order to expand their brands, attract new fans and make money. When the Sounders host big clubs like Man U, Chelsea or Barca? Those big clubs get the lion's share of ticket sales.

    So going in reverse wouldn't work. No one in Europe or South America is going to pay money to see the Sounders play one of their clubs.



    Well this isnt entirely true. I'm certain supporters will come out to see their own clubs for any game. However, it would not have the allure and draw as it does here because the product there is so much better. I think more than anything is what would the motivation be for the MLS clubs. Have to figure teams like Fulham, West Brom, Southampton (decent Premier teams who dont come to the US) would be hosting, and doubt they would give up much of their ticket sales to the visiting club, as really they would be the attraction.r.


    The product is actually pretty equal because when the big clubs come here during the summer it's their preseason and the middle of our regular season. That's why you see a lot of MLS teams playing very well against superior opponents. The Sounders drew 3-3 against Tottenham this past summer.

    Which brings up another reason this wouldn't work in reverse. The MLS preseason is January-March, which is the middle of the season for the top leagues.........and those teams couldn't be bothered with playing MLS friendlies.



    I think you misunderstood what I meant... I think plenty of English club supporters would turn out to their local arenas to watch their team play anyone, MLS team or whomever.

    When the top teams come out here to the US they are usually a steady stream of reserves mixed with regulars, moreso this year due to the World Cup. you really only see something close to their top teams when they play each other. When the top team wants to play its top talent, you get United 8, Seattle 0. Spurs played a mix, 3-3. So you may get a more competitive match, but its more due to the product on the field not being its highest potential. still, a great game by all accounts, and Spurs finished with a strong side if i recall

    I agree it wouldnt work in reverse, unless MLS teams are willing to take time from their league schedule (as they do now) to travel to Europe. Not every MLS team had a European friendly. But the MLS would have to make the concession there.

    Or.. they could just change their ridiculous scheduling
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  • Uncle Si wrote:Or.. they could just change their ridiculous scheduling


    I'm a Sounders season ticket holder, and I have to strongly disagree with this sentiment.

    The MLS would get crushed if it played during the winter trying to compete with the NFL, college football, hockey and basketball.......not to mention the nasty weather turning casual fans away from attending matches.

    IMO the summer is the perfect time for the MLS. Good weather and not much sports competition to compete with for eye balls and attendance.

    In a perfect world yes the MLS should be on the same schedule as other top leagues, but this is a league trying to grow and attract casual sports fans into soccer fans.........and it'd make that VERY difficult to do if it played in the winter.
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  • I am waiting for the Soccer teams in Europe to start an aggressive stance against the NFL soon, playing exhibition games is one thing once a year, moving to multiple games with the intent of founding a team or teams there is a different story. Isn't the season in direct competition with the teams playing soccer there?
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  • Uncle Si wrote:
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    UK_Seahawk wrote:Because, with respect, not many people in the UK could name an MLS team never mind get off their arse and go and watch them.

    I believe that Team USA are playing Colombia at Fulham FC tomorrow and I'd be very surprised if that was well attended.


    Uh... why is the US and Colombia having a international friendly outside of their home countries on a another continent? Shouldn't they be playing in their own nations?



    Only thing I can think of is the domestic league for the US is still going on during the international break. Other than that, yes, its curious.

    Might just be to get the boys out and seeing the world?



    Game is during the MLS Playoffs I believe.
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  • chris98251 wrote:I am waiting for the Soccer teams in Europe to start an aggressive stance against the NFL soon, playing exhibition games is one thing once a year, moving to multiple games with the intent of founding a team or teams there is a different story. Isn't the season in direct competition with the teams playing soccer there?




    It's already started. Englands Manager came out the other day and said he didn't want NFL games played at Wembley anymore because of pitch concerns...
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  • I think the NFL will be in a fight with someone that is equal or greater for once if it comes to a head, forgive me for my lack of structural knowledge of the game there but the Soccer clubs have not stirred things up yet, they are bigger and more followed then the NFL, they have a long history and following that they have built and I think don't want a so called upstart crossing the water to push their weight around.

    The NFL is used to calling shots to get their way because of the money they bring in, that won't be the case their in direct competition, it would be the reverse of what we have here with the MLS, except the MLS knew they had a Gorilla in the room with the NFL and worked with the team in their domain here in Seattle versus try to compete.

    NFL doesn't want competition, it is proven with the mergers over the years of a upstart league that gets support, AFL and I think back further another merger.

    That won't happen in Europe and Britain.

    Novelty is one thing, direct competition for fans, stadiums, and merchandise is a whole other ball game. Where we do have NFL owners that have a stake in the Soccer leagues, are they gonna pony up money and time to sway the other owners to accept a league in their home turf as well?

    Also I have to think without players from the country on teams the interest will wane rather quickly after the novelty wears off not having players from their own country to support attendance will begin to falter.

    Which means you have to develop them somehow, another competition with Soccer.
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  • I'm not turning up to an MLS match again unless I am getting a game.
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  • MLA v. BPL, La Liga, etc is the same as Alabama/Oregon/FSU against Utah State.
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  • UK_Seahawk wrote:Because, with respect, not many people in the UK could name an MLS team never mind get off their arse and go and watch them.

    I believe that Team USA are playing Colombia at Fulham FC tomorrow and I'd be very surprised if that was well attended.


    Over 21,000 tickets sold for that game. Craven Cottage holds 25,700, so it is nearly sold out.
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  • Seahawks1983 wrote:
    UK_Seahawk wrote:Because, with respect, not many people in the UK could name an MLS team never mind get off their arse and go and watch them.

    I believe that Team USA are playing Colombia at Fulham FC tomorrow and I'd be very surprised if that was well attended.


    Over 21,000 tickets sold for that game. Craven Cottage holds 25,700, so it is nearly sold out.


    Good news, but as we know from how crazy people get during the World Cup, national team interest is FAR greater than just your run of the mill MLS team interest.

    If it was Sporting KC playing a Columbian club, or even Fulham my guess is the attendance would be very small.
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  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    Seahawks1983 wrote:
    UK_Seahawk wrote:Because, with respect, not many people in the UK could name an MLS team never mind get off their arse and go and watch them.

    I believe that Team USA are playing Colombia at Fulham FC tomorrow and I'd be very surprised if that was well attended.


    Over 21,000 tickets sold for that game. Craven Cottage holds 25,700, so it is nearly sold out.


    Good news, but as we know from how crazy people get during the World Cup, national team interest is FAR greater than just your run of the mill MLS team interest.

    If it was Sporting KC playing a Columbian club, or even Fulham my guess is the attendance would be very small.



    if Fulham was playing, it would be sold out.

    that said, i will be interested to see what the crowd turn out is (US or Colombian supporters, more of just a general curiosity of locals?)
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  • answer to the above question is:

    Colombian...
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