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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:27 pm
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:30 pm
  • Brian Schmetzer would do well. He was a proven coach for the Sounders before they entered MLS and I think if a change is made, he could fit in nicely. Lagerway has worked with Kreis so I believe Kreis would be the odds on favorite to take over if a change is made.
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:45 pm
  • hawkfan68 wrote:Brian Schmetzer would do well. He was a proven coach for the Sounders before they entered MLS and I think if a change is made, he could fit in nicely. Lagerway has worked with Kreis so I believe Kreis would be the odds on favorite to take over if a change is made.


    As much as I appreciate and admire Schmetzer for what he's meant to Seattle soccer and now the Sounders, I'd like us to dream bigger if we're replacing Sigi.

    Schmetzer's 53, why hasn't he gotten a managing gig elsewhere if he's such a good candidate?

    53 seems really old to begin your professional manager career, even if it is with your hometown club. For as much money as the Sounders can throw at managerial candidates, I'd like a more experienced and dynamic manager.
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:56 pm
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    hawkfan68 wrote:Brian Schmetzer would do well. He was a proven coach for the Sounders before they entered MLS and I think if a change is made, he could fit in nicely. Lagerway has worked with Kreis so I believe Kreis would be the odds on favorite to take over if a change is made.


    As much as I appreciate and admire Schmetzer for what he's meant to Seattle soccer and now the Sounders, I'd like us to dream bigger if we're replacing Sigi.

    Schmetzer's 53, why hasn't he gotten a managing gig elsewhere if he's such a good candidate?

    53 seems really old to begin your professional manager career, even if it is with your hometown club. For as much money as the Sounders can throw at managerial candidates, I'd like a more experienced and dynamic manager.



    To my knowledge, Schmetzer has turned down 3 MLS coaching gigs to keep his role with the sounders. If he leave's, he wants more control than is being offered elsewhere.


    That said, I don't think he's a big enough change from Sigi to yield the results we require.
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:58 pm
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Tue Nov 10, 2015 4:30 pm
  • Just because Schmetzer lacks MLS managing experience doesn't mean he is "new". He's been in coaching since 1995 and has managed the Sounders in USL plus won US Open competitions (highest they went was semifinals but still pretty good for a A-League team) with them. He managed and helped develop guys like -

    Herculez Gomez
    Sebastan Le Toux
    Roger Levesque
    Taylor Graham
    Marc Hahnemann
    Cam Weaver
    Zach Scott
    Brian Ching
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:38 am
  • hawkfan68 wrote:Just because Schmetzer lacks MLS managing experience doesn't mean he is "new". He's been in coaching since 1995 and has managed the Sounders in USL plus won US Open competitions (highest they went was semifinals but still pretty good for a A-League team) with them. He managed and helped develop guys like -

    Herculez Gomez
    Sebastan Le Toux
    Roger Levesque
    Taylor Graham
    Marc Hahnemann
    Cam Weaver
    Zach Scott
    Brian Ching


    Schmetzer is most certainly qualified, but if ownership and Lagerwey indeed do move on from Sigi, there's no way they're going to replace him with Sigi Jr.
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:42 am
  • hawkfan68 wrote:Just because Schmetzer lacks MLS managing experience doesn't mean he is "new". He's been in coaching since 1995 and has managed the Sounders in USL plus won US Open competitions (highest they went was semifinals but still pretty good for a A-League team) with them. He managed and helped develop guys like -

    Herculez Gomez
    Sebastan Le Toux
    Roger Levesque
    Taylor Graham
    Marc Hahnemann
    Cam Weaver
    Zach Scott
    Brian Ching



    No offense... but that's not a list I'd get excited to put on my resume.. Le Toux, maybe. the rest (outside the GK) just reflect the stagnation of both US and Sounders soccer as a whole.
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Wed Nov 11, 2015 6:22 pm
  • There have been rumors floating around that Seattle was trying to sign 21 year old winger, Hector Villalba in the summer window, and will most likely target him in the winter window. He looks like the type of player Smurf and Si have been clamoring for, Yedlin level pace, great first touch... I really hope this one is true.

    I'm still on the fence about next season. I don't blame Sigi, but I'd love to see us go in a different direction. I don't know how I feel about Jason Kreis, he's never really shown to be much more than a system coach...
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:28 pm
  • Grant Wahl is reporting that the Sounders are actively shopping Osvaldo Alonso around MLS looking for trade suitors.

    Alonso is 30, on a 2 year guaranteed contract that pays 800k a year, and has been bit by the injury bug.


    The changes are coming fellas.

    Also, tonight is the annual season ticket holder business meeting held at the paramount. There will be four people representing the Sounders to the fan base, and Sigi isn't one of them. Joe Roth, Adrian Hanauer, Bart Wiley, and Garth Lagerway will be there.

    Should be interesting to see what comes out of that meeting, which features an open Q&A.
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:36 pm
  • knownone wrote:There have been rumors floating around that Seattle was trying to sign 21 year old winger, Hector Villalba in the summer window, and will most likely target him in the winter window. He looks like the type of player Smurf and Si have been clamoring for, Yedlin level pace, great first touch... I really hope this one is true.

    I'm still on the fence about next season. I don't blame Sigi, but I'd love to see us go in a different direction. I don't know how I feel about Jason Kreis, he's never really shown to be much more than a system coach...



    I like the look of him. Good, pacey, creative player. What the MLS needs more of, and really, a great place to be looking.
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:14 pm
  • Smurf wrote:Grant Wahl is reporting that the Sounders are actively shopping Osvaldo Alonso around MLS looking for trade suitors.

    Alonso is 30, on a 2 year guaranteed contract that pays 800k a year, and has been bit by the injury bug.


    The changes are coming fellas.

    Also, tonight is the annual season ticket holder business meeting held at the paramount. There will be four people representing the Sounders to the fan base, and Sigi isn't one of them. Joe Roth, Adrian Hanauer, Bart Wiley, and Garth Lagerway will be there.

    Should be interesting to see what comes out of that meeting, which features an open Q&A.


    As much as I love Ozzie, I think it's time. He's too often injured now to support his salary, and as we found out in the playoffs we need a more dependable, preferably younger and healthier defensive mid.

    Andy Rose proved that life with an injured Ozzie is a horrible horrible thing.
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:58 pm
  • Its been confirmed Sigi is staying. No doubt we'll win the open cup and SS next year and crash and burn in the play offs as per every other year.
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Fri Nov 13, 2015 1:20 am
  • Sigi = Stagnation.

    We wont reach the heights desired with him.
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Fri Nov 13, 2015 4:46 am
  • Interesting...


    wait... not at all interesting
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Fri Nov 13, 2015 9:37 am
  • Yeah honestly I was hoping for a managerial change, if for no other reason than to get some fresh energy and excitement for 2016.
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Fri Nov 13, 2015 6:15 pm
  • Sounders prospect Oalex Anderson is having a decent game tonight for St. Vincent & Grenadines.
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Fri Nov 13, 2015 6:55 pm
  • SeatownJay wrote:Sounders prospect Oalex Anderson is having a decent game tonight for St. Vincent & Grenadines.

    He is. However with Sigi coming back he probably never sees the pitch in Seattle.
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Wed Nov 18, 2015 5:14 pm
  • Spounge84 wrote:Sounders have offered Jordan Morris the richest homegrown player contract in history.

    http://www.soundersfc.com/post/2015/11/ ... ls-history



    Highest HGP contracts I can recall were Zardes at 100k and Trapp at 150k (i think)....Zardes now makes 200k plus, So i think the offer is in the 150-200k range.
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Wed Nov 18, 2015 6:10 pm



  • In case anyone was curious why Brad Evans is this teams captain....thats it right there.
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:51 am
  • Spounge84 wrote:Sounders have offered Jordan Morris the richest homegrown player contract in history.

    http://www.soundersfc.com/post/2015/11/ ... ls-history



    I won't lie, I'm nervous about Morris ever playing in a Sounders kit. I just get the sneaky suspicion he's got his sites set on forgoing MLS and starting his career overseas. This is especially true if Klinsmann does what he does with all his players, hold that Euro carrot over their heads and trash MLS.
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Thu Nov 19, 2015 12:54 pm
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    Spounge84 wrote:Sounders have offered Jordan Morris the richest homegrown player contract in history.

    http://www.soundersfc.com/post/2015/11/ ... ls-history



    I won't lie, I'm nervous about Morris ever playing in a Sounders kit. I just get the sneaky suspicion he's got his sites set on forgoing MLS and starting his career overseas. This is especially true if Klinsmann does what he does with all his players, hold that Euro carrot over their heads and trash MLS.



    If its a top tiered team in one of the major leagues (Germany, Portugal, Spain, England, France, Italy) i'd be all for it. he's young enough to bounce back if it doesn't work out. If its anything less than that he should stay home.

    Klinsman doesn't do that, by the way. He correctly values the experiences of Europe's top leagues as far more enriching than the MLS for his top tiered players. He's also never once pushed a player from the USMNT because of their professional choices.
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Thu Nov 19, 2015 2:03 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    Klinsman doesn't do that, by the way. He correctly values the experiences of Europe's top leagues as far more enriching than the MLS for his top tiered players. He's also never once pushed a player from the USMNT because of their professional choices.


    No not pushed, but he has many times openly criticized our most valued USMNT players for their choice to play in the MLS.

    So sorry, I wouldn't put it past Klinsmann to put pressure on these younger players to not play in the MLS.
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Fri Nov 20, 2015 6:07 am
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:I wouldn't put it past Klinsmann to put pressure on these younger players to not play in the MLS.


    Is that a bad thing?
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Fri Nov 20, 2015 6:53 am
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:
    Klinsman doesn't do that, by the way. He correctly values the experiences of Europe's top leagues as far more enriching than the MLS for his top tiered players. He's also never once pushed a player from the USMNT because of their professional choices.


    No not pushed, but he has many times openly criticized our most valued USMNT players for their choice to play in the MLS.

    So sorry, I wouldn't put it past Klinsmann to put pressure on these younger players to not play in the MLS.



    He's permitted that. He's the coach of the USMNT. And if he wants to push players to push themselves than what's wrong with it?

    Most national coaches don't have to ask their players to find the most competitive environments to get better in. The US does, and gets criticized for it? I think fans of the MLS get too protective of it. It is what it is, and until Klinsmann starts withholding team selections or playing time from players IN the MLS then I don't see a problem.
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Fri Nov 20, 2015 7:43 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    Sgt. Largent wrote:
    Spounge84 wrote:Sounders have offered Jordan Morris the richest homegrown player contract in history.

    http://www.soundersfc.com/post/2015/11/ ... ls-history



    I won't lie, I'm nervous about Morris ever playing in a Sounders kit. I just get the sneaky suspicion he's got his sites set on forgoing MLS and starting his career overseas. This is especially true if Klinsmann does what he does with all his players, hold that Euro carrot over their heads and trash MLS.



    If its a top tiered team in one of the major leagues (Germany, Portugal, Spain, England, France, Italy) i'd be all for it. he's young enough to bounce back if it doesn't work out. If its anything less than that he should stay home.

    Klinsman doesn't do that, by the way. He correctly values the experiences of Europe's top leagues as far more enriching than the MLS for his top tiered players. He's also never once pushed a player from the USMNT because of their professional choices.



    As a Sounders fan: Going anywhere but Sounders/Stanford is 100% against what he has said for the past 18 months. He said he plans to go from Stanford to the Sounders. With S2, there is plenty of playing time available...but with the age of our star strikers, getting 15-30 at the end of matches is also definitely possible. Especially with the players we have "in front of him" right now. Once he's here, he'll still have to prove to Sigi he needs playing time.


    As a USMNT: It doesn't matter where he goes, as long as he gets minutes there and continues to progress his game. For me, that is no longer Stanford. He was the PAC12 player of the year, and is a regular selection for the USMNT squad. He needs to hit the next tier of competition whether it be MLS or another club...but the biggest thing is wherever he goes, he must play. The Sounders/S2 may not be the best option for him as a player looking to get minutes.
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Fri Nov 20, 2015 7:57 am
  • S2 should not be an option for a player pushing himself to be a starter on the USMNT.

    Playing time at that level is not going to help him. Hell, I'd suggest that S2 isn't the "next tier" of soccer above Pac 12, D1 soccer. Might even be a step down.

    He needs and deserves regular playing time at a high level. I'm fairly certain he will be a Sounder because I don't think Europe is quite aware of him. But, he's already 21, and if he has any ambitions towards playing at an elite level he needs to make his push for it very soon. That doesn't mean he can't sign with the Sounders, but he should ensure they would be willing to part with him should Europe come calling.
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Fri Nov 20, 2015 8:09 am
  • Couple things from the past few days with some end of season press conferences:


    -Lagerway indicated there wasn't even a conversation about whether Sigi would be back or not.
    -Lagerway said the club "Didn't even get close" to their goal of winning MLS Cup.
    -Lagerway has also said that the club will look to get Younger and faster this offseason.
    -Ways to do this include signing more Homegrown players, and promoting certain S2 players.
    -Oalex Anderson will be training with the first team in pre-season.
    -S2 will move towards more cultivation of young players, than results driven. Especially with the team now being excluded from the USOC.
    -Brad Evans has indicated that he expects to be starting CB next to Chad Marshall next season, but is open to moving to left back when Torres returns. He has expressed his preference to stay in the back 4.
    -The club has acknowledged the Alonso situation, and admits that his contract has become an issue. Sigi indicated that he would like to keep Ozzie.
    -The team STILL has allocation money to spend. It was rumored before that they has used it all during the summer window, but looks like they could again be active in january....But...
    -The team currently has no open International roster slots. Here are the 9 Players in the 8 Spots: Correa (DL), Fisher, Friberg, Ivanschitz, Lowe, Martins, Mears, Thomas, Torres, Valdez. Correa doesn't count towards the 8 due to his DL status. The team would need either move a player, trade for another spot, or Have the player acquire a green card to sign another foreign player.


    Also, kind of interesting is that next season we may see some new Club Record holders for the Sounders.

    Goals - Montero with 47. Martins is only 7 behind him.
    Assists - Rosales/Montero with 34. Martins and Dempsey are 11 and 14 behind, respectively.
    GK Games - Keller has 93. Frei is on 65 right now.
    Shutouts - Keller has 30, Frei has 19
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Fri Nov 20, 2015 8:10 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:S2 should not be an option for a player pushing himself to be a starter on the USMNT.

    Playing time at that level is not going to help him. Hell, I'd suggest that S2 isn't the "next tier" of soccer above Pac 12, D1 soccer. Might even be a step down.

    He needs and deserves regular playing time at a high level. I'm fairly certain he will be a Sounder because I don't think Europe is quite aware of him. But, he's already 21, and if he has any ambitions towards playing at an elite level he needs to make his push for it very soon. That doesn't mean he can't sign with the Sounders, but he should ensure they would be willing to part with him should Europe come calling.



    I think with Yedlin we have set the precedent that we are Ok doing so....and I 100% agree about S2 not being a legit option for him.
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:30 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    Sgt. Largent wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:
    Klinsman doesn't do that, by the way. He correctly values the experiences of Europe's top leagues as far more enriching than the MLS for his top tiered players. He's also never once pushed a player from the USMNT because of their professional choices.


    No not pushed, but he has many times openly criticized our most valued USMNT players for their choice to play in the MLS.

    So sorry, I wouldn't put it past Klinsmann to put pressure on these younger players to not play in the MLS.



    He's permitted that. He's the coach of the USMNT. And if he wants to push players to push themselves than what's wrong with it?

    Most national coaches don't have to ask their players to find the most competitive environments to get better in. The US does, and gets criticized for it? I think fans of the MLS get too protective of it. It is what it is, and until Klinsmann starts withholding team selections or playing time from players IN the MLS then I don't see a problem.


    Of course he's permitted, I was just qualifying as to why I'm reticent that Jordan won't take the Sounders offer and find a club in Europe.

    I'm a selfish Sounders fan, I want to see Morris here, at least for a couple years...........and if Klinsmann is in his ear dangling USMNT time over him, then that's one more thing pushing him towards Europe.
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:52 am
  • I understand that, I also think you're being a bit paranoid. My thought is that Jordan Morris would take the offer that makes the most sense to him, not because of Klinsmann.

    Remember, Klinsmann's criticisms were for his top, top players leaving Europe for the MLS. He felt that was too easy for them. I'm sure he understands that younger players need to find environments that are both challenging and nurturing.

    And Smurf, the Sounders sold both Yedlin and Montero, so no doubt they are willing. My thought for Morris would be that he would want that release clause.
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:41 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:I understand that, I also think you're being a bit paranoid. My thought is that Jordan Morris would take the offer that makes the most sense to him, not because of Klinsmann.

    Remember, Klinsmann's criticisms were for his top, top players leaving Europe for the MLS. He felt that was too easy for them. I'm sure he understands that younger players need to find environments that are both challenging and nurturing.

    And Smurf, the Sounders sold both Yedlin and Montero, so no doubt they are willing. My thought for Morris would be that he would want that release clause.



    Fair.
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:19 am
  • razgriz737 wrote:Rumor confirmed:
    https://twitter.com/MLSist/status/671754575930597376

    Sounds like DC is sending us some allocation money in return.



    Official Smurf Opinion on the matter:

    I approve. He was a player who while talented was keeping younger plays off the pitch. This is part of the youth movement we have been hearing about. This will allow players like Aaron Kovar to develop more through increased playing time.

    Allocation money also helps us out fairly significantly. We'll be able to buy down some bigger non DP contracts (Ivanschitz, Marshall, Evans, Pappa to name a few possibilities).


    Solid move. Sad to see a local boy go, but Neagle has served this club well. Best to him in DC.
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:04 pm
  • Rumors that Carlos Vela is heading to MLS. San Jose, Chicago and NYRB are the three top suitors.


    Same rumors say he's gonna be getting that Dempsey money ($8Mil a year)
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:14 pm
  • Smurf wrote:Rumors that Carlos Vela is heading to MLS. San Jose, Chicago and NYRB are the three top suitors.


    Same rumors say he's gonna be getting that Dempsey money ($8Mil a year)



    Looks like it would be Colorado. http://www.espnfc.us/story/2735440/carlos-vela-not-ruling-out-colorado-rapids-move-says-agent

    Its an interesting story. Vela is not the player he could have been. I feel like this may be posturing for attention from elsewhere... or, legitimately, the MLS could be the highest bidder. if that's the case, Colorado may want to be careful.
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:18 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    Smurf wrote:Rumors that Carlos Vela is heading to MLS. San Jose, Chicago and NYRB are the three top suitors.


    Same rumors say he's gonna be getting that Dempsey money ($8Mil a year)



    Looks like it would be Colorado. http://www.espnfc.us/story/2735440/carlos-vela-not-ruling-out-colorado-rapids-move-says-agent

    Its an interesting story. Vela is not the player he could have been. I feel like this may be posturing for attention from elsewhere... or, legitimately, the MLS could be the highest bidder. if that's the case, Colorado may want to be careful.



    Agree about Vela not reaching his potential. I feel the leg break really set him back. I'm not sure he's worth that money.
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:30 pm
  • From the clubs site:

    Contract options have been declined for the following players:

    Azira
    Barrett
    Correa
    Gonzalez
    Pappa
    Perkins
    Pineda
    Scott
    Thomas

    Doesn't mean they are gone for good. Could re-sign on different deals. They have until December 10th to sign new deals.


    Andy Rose and Andy Craven are also out of contract now. Both have been offered deals.
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:55 pm
  • Only one I would keep is Scott and even then it's probably time to move on from him. Thomas should be an S2 player. Pappa meh, he was gone when we needed him most during the summer.
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:05 am
  • Andy Rose and Andy Craven got offered contracts? Yikes. They need to find a way to rid themselves of Rose. I've seen snails move faster than him.
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:52 am
  • Glasgow Seahawk wrote:Only one I would keep is Scott and even then it's probably time to move on from him. Thomas should be an S2 player. Pappa meh, he was gone when we needed him most during the summer.


    I think the Sounders would love to move away from Scott, but they can never seem to find depth at the CB position, so he always seems to hang around.

    Like Evans, Sigi loves versatile players, and Scott fits that as well.

    But yeah, I'd love us to get younger and bigger depth at CB, cause I'm tired of seeing Evans and Scott getting out jumped on corner kicks.
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:49 am
  • hawkfan68 wrote:Andy Rose and Andy Craven got offered contracts? Yikes. They need to find a way to rid themselves of Rose. I've seen snails move faster than him.


    He's on trial at coventry so he may not be back.
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:51 am
  • Are you guys pumped for the Timbers match on Sunday?
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Re: Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread
Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:54 pm
  • JSeahawks wrote:Are you guys pumped for the Timbers match on Sunday?

    Couldn't care less. Good luck!
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