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  • Well this was a game that sums up the year and this era:

    Miranda had a no-hitter through 6, struck out 5, walked 6 with the score tied 1-1. (Walked the bases loaded in the 3rd, sac fly to score) Servais started the 7th with Pazos and Pagan likely due to 112 pitches for Miranda. Pazos and Pagan give up 2 runs and we lose 3-1, despite just 2 hits for Houston. Truly a creative and most Marineresque way to lose and to fall back under .500.
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  • Ya, we finally get a few quality starts back to back and our offense goes back into hiding. This team is just out of sync, and I really think a lot of it is mental. M's need a Pete Carroll type leader. Servais is just a bore. The calm, cool, collected type only works if you're a mastermind at managing the game (Torre, Bochy, Francona, etc). I think we would have 4-5 more wins right now with McLendon.

    Maddon lifted the Cubs curse, maybe he can lift ours too?

    Angels take 2nd wild card spot it looks like. This upcoming series against them is theeee season.
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  • Tough loss TBS. One would hope that by this time of year they could learn to beat playoff caliber teams.

    Not yet, apparently.
    Talent can get you to the playoffs.
    It takes character to win when you get there.

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  • Anytime you have bad starting pitching like we do, the season going to be a roller coaster. No different than an NFL team that has no reliable running game and a bad defense. You can't expect to outscore everyone each week.

    Interesting move to go with Moore tonight and go with Leake tomorrow. I wonder if they are almost conceding this series with hopes of beating the Angels.

    I think we stay in the race til the end, but fall short by no more than a few games. I haven't compared schedules, but I'd think Minnesota has the best chance as their division arguably has the two worst teams in the AL. A win tonight would be nice, hopefully the bats wake up.
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  • SOS
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  • What a disappointment. Another year of losing baseball. 40 years of heartache
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  • What it feels like to be a Mariners fan ...



    ... Year ... After Freaking Year ... AUGH.
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  • There's really no words anymore...you just endure the pain... decade after decade.
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  • You all know they are still only 3 games out of a WC spot right?Shocking I know...
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  • This upcoming series against the Angels is almost a must win.

    The second wildcard sure adds hope and drama to the MLB season, but to be honest, none of the second wildcard teams are very good. There is a reason why no one is running away with it. I think most these teams are pretty average.
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  • IndyHawk wrote:You all know they are still only 3 games out of a WC spot right?Shocking I know...


    3.5 back but 2 games under .500 with 6 teams ahead of us and we've lost 7 out of 10. It ain't happenin'.

    They would need to be about 7 games over .500 to be in a competitive position at the end. Honestly, even if Paxton and Felix were healthy, they still wouldn't get there. The offensive production has sizzled, the bullpen not quite what it was and the defense has inexplicably been poor lately.

    I'll still tune in and watch but I'm looking at who to keep and get rid of for next year.
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  • West TX Hawk wrote:
    IndyHawk wrote:You all know they are still only 3 games out of a WC spot right?Shocking I know...


    3.5 back but 2 games under .500 with 6 teams ahead of us and we've lost 7 out of 10. It ain't happenin'.

    They would need to be about 7 games over .500 to be in a competitive position at the end. Honestly, even if Paxton and Felix were healthy, they still wouldn't get there. The offensive production has sizzled, the bullpen not quite what it was and the defense has inexplicably been poor lately.

    I'll still tune in and watch but I'm looking at who to keep and get rid of for next year.


    If we had Paxton and Felix I think we would make the playoffs. If they both came back tomorrow, I'd give us a 50% chance of making it from 3 GB. The offense looked bad against Houston, but we aced three really good starting pitchers. The bats will get back on track against the Angels who don't have much pitching.
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  • Dang... Angie Mentink of ROOT sports has cancer. That's sad. Hope she's able to beat it. She looks to be in good spirits so that's a good start.
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  • Good win tonight. Nice to break the Angels curse the M's seem to play under.
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  • I'm kinda done with this current mariners roster, I rather be the worst team in baseball for awhile then year after year of around .500 baseball. This team has no fire, no passion and it shows they win just enough to keep you hopefully but never enough to prove they care. Cano, felix, all of them might as well be traded for farm, and a brighter future if anyone would take them for anything.

    We have been cursed since 2001, 3 games out from the wildcard I think but I have zero hope they will pull within 1 game again, just to drop an easy string of games.
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  • Not sure how much Cano and Felix could get you at this point. I don't think anyone will touch Felix with his injuries and his big contract. While Cano is still productive, he is going to be 35 in October and everyone knows he isn't worth what he is giong to get paid the last 5 years of his contract. I would assume if we traded him we would have to eat some of his contract.

    The guys who we can get value for would be Cruz, Seager, Segura, a lot of the bullpen guys and Paxton. I personally don't see us parting ways with any of those guys with the exception to Cruz. At this point, I think it's pretty clear Dipoto is going to go for it again next year. All these trades we pulled off this season were guys who we can keep for at least the next couple years. I'm okay going for it next year. Solidify the rotation and we should make the playoffs next season, at least i hope.
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  • Hawk-Lock wrote:
    West TX Hawk wrote:
    IndyHawk wrote:You all know they are still only 3 games out of a WC spot right?Shocking I know...


    3.5 back but 2 games under .500 with 6 teams ahead of us and we've lost 7 out of 10. It ain't happenin'.

    They would need to be about 7 games over .500 to be in a competitive position at the end. Honestly, even if Paxton and Felix were healthy, they still wouldn't get there. The offensive production has sizzled, the bullpen not quite what it was and the defense has inexplicably been poor lately.

    I'll still tune in and watch but I'm looking at who to keep and get rid of for next year.


    If we had Paxton and Felix I think we would make the playoffs. If they both came back tomorrow, I'd give us a 50% chance of making it from 3 GB. The offense looked bad against Houston, but we aced three really good starting pitchers. The bats will get back on track against the Angels who don't have much pitching.

    Your if is granted as both are coming back next week.
    I know there is a chance they can get in so I'm not killing this year yet.
    This team with a decent staff can get real hot and anything can happen in the playoffs.
    We have the hitting most of the time anyway.Healthy #1-2 starters would be huge
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  • Pax, Felix, Ramirez, Leake, Albers is a rotation I feel very confident in as long as the bats are consistent.

    Casey Lawrence can go for sure though.
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  • XxXdragonXxX wrote:Pax, Felix, Ramirez, Leake, Albers is a rotation I feel very confident in as long as the bats are consistent.

    Casey Lawrence can go for sure though.


    Pax and Felix = Prosise and Lacy.

    One talented and always hurt and the other fat and past his prime.

    Felix should've been traded at the deadline 2 years ago. We would've gotten excellent prospects that would help us now. Instead we're left with a #5 caliber pitcher who through injuries/poor conditioning is basically done. Color me not real enthused that he's coming back for maybe 2 starts to finish the season. The King's Court is adjourned.

    I am very excited however about Leake and Albers' future here.
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  • Felix will return on Thursday and Paxton the following day on Friday.
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  • Miranda should not be in the rotation after this week. I'm not sure what happened to him, but he hasn't looked good for the past couple months.
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  • So have we all reached a comfort level with Zunino? If he keeps this up, I"m pretty comfortable with him starting.
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  • Bobblehead wrote:So have we all reached a comfort level with Zunino? If he keeps this up, I"m pretty comfortable with him starting.

    At this point he is what he is. A streaky hitter with some power. Dude was hitting .190 on May 31 with only 1 home run, then he hit .304 in June with 10 home runs, then followed that up with a .188 average in July but added 5 more home runs. Looks like September might be another hot month for him, he's currently hitting .394 for the month with 4 homers.
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  • SeatownJay wrote:
    Bobblehead wrote:So have we all reached a comfort level with Zunino? If he keeps this up, I"m pretty comfortable with him starting.

    At this point he is what he is. A streaky hitter with some power. Dude was hitting .190 on May 31 with only 1 home run, then he hit .304 in June with 10 home runs, then followed that up with a .188 average in July but added 5 more home runs. Looks like September might be another hot month for him, he's currently hitting .394 for the month with 4 homers.


    .248 with 25 hr and 2 weeks to go. You could do a lot worse at catcher. His 470 foot blast was ultra impressive the other day.

    Even more impressive are the Cleveland Indians. 22 in a row, AL record, 2nd best winning streak all time. Truly incredible and almost unbelievable in the modern age.

    Great to see all the M's bats catch fire lately. Curious to see how Paxton does tonight.
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  • Damn Twins are SO HOT RIGHT NOW
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  • There aren't many good catchers. If you can hit around .250 with 25+ HR's you are a top 10 catcher. Catcher is like the TE of baseball, it isn't very deep.

    I think M's go on a roll here, even with Houston series coming up. The problem is the Twins keep winning. I don't see us catching the Twins, but I think we are the biggest threat to them.
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  • I'm really hating the Astros.. they just seem to have our number.
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  • They're damn good. Very capable of beating the Indians
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  • Bobblehead wrote:I'm really hating the Astros.. they just seem to have our number.

    They have better pitching and better hitting. Other than that we can kick their asses. :34853_doh:

    Kind of sad. I was actually worried that we had too much hope attached with Felix's return. He ended up having a better outing than Pax did. Meanwhile, the 2017 window is rapidly closing on us.
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  • Crizilla wrote:They're damn good. Very capable of beating the Indians


    I still like the Indians to come out of the AL. Best starting pitching in the AL, a great bullpen and a stacked lineup. They basically have the same lineup from last years World Series team with the additions of Encarnacion and Bruce.

    Without the addition of Verlander I wouldn't have considered the Astros to come out the AL, but they definitely have a shot. The problem with Houston, is their ace isn't as good as Kluber or Sale.
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  • I give up...
    Too many injuries and it took it's toll but the team played tough all year.
    Hope they can improve and stay healthy next year..Please!
    Maybe Gaylord Perry can still pitch :lol:
    See you next year fellow M's fan.
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  • A positive in light of the ongoing Mariner collapse is Mike Leake. Another outstanding outing for him. Very much looking forward to him near the front of the rotation next year. He's very durable, unlike Paxton and keeps himself in shape, unlike Felix. 6 straight years with 30 or more starts and very consistent with ERAs in the 3s every year. Definitely one of the better Dipoto moves.

    Vincent, like last year, has been overused by Servais and is showing signs of arm fatigue. A real shame, but typical Servais pitching mismanagement.
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  • Terrible outing by Felix. 3 1/3 5 ER, 3 BB. Overall another real shit year by him. He offers absolutely nothing, is hurt half the time and of course no one would want his contract. 7 years, $175 mil-what a joke. I wish he would just retire in the offseason...but he won't and we'll have to endure another 15 hapless, mediocre starts next year and multiple DL stops. To those that thought once Felix and Paxton come back we'd make a run--nope.

    I was really optimistic about this team at various points, and when you grew up watching the piss show this organization has put out for 40 years it really wears on you...and then you get this nasty thing called hope and you get burned again.

    If you told me as a kid watching in the Kingdome Jim Presley, Alvin Davis, Harold, Langston, Hendu, Phelps, Gorman Thomas, Gar, Omar, Matt Moore, Mike Morgan etc that 30 some years later this team will never have even been to the Series once, I don't know what I would've thought. Would I still have watched so passionately? Probably so. 17 year postseason drought continues into next year now.
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