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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:14 pm
  • Baseball is definitely an interesting sport. Definitely the most unpredictable. Just shows that anything can happen. Just look at where the Mariners are and where the Red Sox are. Who would have thought.
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:20 pm
  • SoulfishHawk wrote:Finally they are really fun to watch. Especially because they are playing loose, with a chip and with the belief that they are never out of it. Couldn't have been more wrong about this team. Hope that continues :irishdrinkers:


    In years past, Mariners fans had Felix and... not much else to enjoy watching. Pitching duels are fun once in a while, but hits are what bring people to the park. This team is an utter joy to watch right now. Just a treat. When the score was 0 to 4 at the top of the 6th, I figured they would lose but still make a game of it. There is just no quit in them. They are showing so much plate discipline and clutch hitting, I can scarcely believe my eyes.
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:21 pm
  • Averaging 7.8 runs per game through the first 15 games. Next closest is the Dodgers at a full run per game less.

    What the hell is happening?

    :lol:
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:24 pm
  • WTF.. are you kidding me?
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:26 pm
  • Chapow wrote:Averaging 7.8 runs per game through the first 15 games. Next closest is the Dodgers at a full run per game less.

    What the hell is happening?

    :lol:


    They appear to have accidentally made themselves contenders in a rebuilding year.
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:31 pm
  • Really curious to see how the next two series go. Houston and Cleveland are not KC.
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:36 pm
  • Truly an incredible win and these guys keep coming at you like a determined thoroughbred. They have all the intangibles and hungry players who all have something to prove -- not to mention they have the best plate discipline in the league.

    And hopefully it's a great crowd this weekend to support them against the Stros in a real showdown. Expect a lot of bandwagon fans to start showing up everywhere...including this thread.

    Don't sweat the defense-5 + runs a game will make up for the usual 2 errors. As to the pen, we have 4 quality guys that Servais has confidence in: Swarzak, Elias, Brennan and Sadzeck. Those guys are all solid--just need a couple more decent arms in there.
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:37 pm
  • Hawk-Lock wrote:Baseball is definitely an interesting sport. Definitely the most unpredictable. Just shows that anything can happen. Just look at where the Mariners are and where the Red Sox are. Who would have thought.



    Thing is... over 162 games baseball is the most predictable sport there is.

    But... every year there is anomaly, whether or plsyer or team.

    Ms might be that anomaly.
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:38 pm
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:46 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    Hawk-Lock wrote:Baseball is definitely an interesting sport. Definitely the most unpredictable. Just shows that anything can happen. Just look at where the Mariners are and where the Red Sox are. Who would have thought.



    Thing is... over 162 games baseball is the most predictable sport there is.

    But... every year there is anomaly, whether or plsyer or team.

    Ms might be that anomaly.


    Time will tell of course, but it begs the question is it a potential anomaly or the culmination of many overlooked guys who had good 2017 seasons and are prime candidates for bounce back years? Was it all a carefully calculated player acquisition seige by Jerry? Or just total luck?
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:50 pm
  • How many times have we heard the A's were gonna' suck? Quite often, only to see them in the mix at the end of the season. Could be the same thing here. We will get our Closer back AND Seager and his defense sometime in June. Big boost right there. Seagar better hit or he'll be riding the pine more than he would like.
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:02 pm
  • Nice win for the Mariners today. An early series sweep win. Hope to see more of that to come as the season progresses. Remember, consistency is the key here.
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:06 pm
  • Could this team be like the 2001 Ms? That team was supposed to drop too with A-Rod leaving. They ended up tying for the most wins in a season. Although 2001 M's had better pitching than the current team does.
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:34 pm
  • We don't have any room for Seager. We're full. Sorry Kyle
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:05 pm
  • Crizilla wrote:We don't have any room for Seager. We're full. Sorry Kyle


    Agreed. The worst thing that could happen to this team, aside from injuries, is putting Seager back in the lineup everyday when he comes back. Healy is doing great and you shouldn't mess with what's working. Even a platoon, which I'm afraid will happen, will dampen the rhythm this lineup has.
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:48 pm
  • West TX Hawk wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:
    Hawk-Lock wrote:Baseball is definitely an interesting sport. Definitely the most unpredictable. Just shows that anything can happen. Just look at where the Mariners are and where the Red Sox are. Who would have thought.



    Thing is... over 162 games baseball is the most predictable sport there is.

    But... every year there is anomaly, whether or plsyer or team.

    Ms might be that anomaly.


    Time will tell of course, but it begs the question is it a potential anomaly or the culmination of many overlooked guys who had good 2017 seasons and are prime candidates for bounce back years? Was it all a carefully calculated player acquisition seige by Jerry? Or just total luck?


    Probably both. Which makes the anomaly more a calculated risk.. moneyball style (without the payroll limits)
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:14 pm
  • West TX Hawk wrote:
    Crizilla wrote:We don't have any room for Seager. We're full. Sorry Kyle


    Agreed. The worst thing that could happen to this team, aside from injuries, is putting Seager back in the lineup everyday when he comes back. Healy is doing great and you shouldn't mess with what's working. Even a platoon, which I'm afraid will happen, will dampen the rhythm this lineup has.


    He could be a possible trade piece if he can show something when he returns.
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:50 pm
  • Same thing my wifie and I were saying. Dont mess with the chemistry.

    In related news....Cano is batting 200, James Paxton has a 5 era and Zunino is batting .077....(2 for 29)
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:41 am
  • I like Seagar, but if a team is willing to give up something, it might be time to move on from that contract. He's way too inconsistent as a hitter. Very good defensive player, but this team is just fine the way it is.
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:16 am
  • When Seagar comes back, we'll have 4 first basemen. Encarnacion and Bruce were always trade bait. I liked what Seagar was doing at the plate in spring, he was hitting away from the shift and still putting a lot of power in his swing.

    Frankly, I don't see them moving Seagar this season. I could see an infield of Seagar, Beckham, Gordon, and Healy with Moore as the utility man. Vogey can spell Healy at first and DH. I could see hanging on to Bruce if he continues to hit, but if he does his trade value will be elevated anyway. We've replenished our farm system, yes, but you can always use more in the pipeline.
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:05 am
  • sutz wrote:When Seagar comes back, we'll have 4 first basemen. Encarnacion and Bruce were always trade bait. I liked what Seagar was doing at the plate in spring, he was hitting away from the shift and still putting a lot of power in his swing.

    Frankly, I don't see them moving Seagar this season. I could see an infield of Seagar, Beckham, Gordon, and Healy with Moore as the utility man. Vogey can spell Healy at first and DH. I could see hanging on to Bruce if he continues to hit, but if he does his trade value will be elevated anyway. We've replenished our farm system, yes, but you can always use more in the pipeline.


    The 3 of Seager, Bruce and EE were and are still trade bait, in which you'd hope the organization is looking to bring in prospects to take their place or capital to purchase them further down the road. Ideally a player in the farm like White or Long are brought up this Summer as well.

    But for sure, Seager is not meant to be a long term asset. If they can trade him this season (unlikely due to contract) they will.

    That said, another prospected free agent (Braves 2b Albies) has extended his contract. This is not for nothing, as extensions were pretty rare in MLB until this season. The Ms plan has always been to build a nice, young core and support it with free agents in 2021. That list is dwindling. Be interesting to see how the front office adjusts.

    For now, with the big series coming up tonight.. enjoy some love from ESPN:

    http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26501109/how-amazing-mariners-playing-baseball-best-team
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:42 am
  • sutz wrote:When Seagar comes back, we'll have 4 first basemen. Encarnacion and Bruce were always trade bait. I liked what Seagar was doing at the plate in spring, he was hitting away from the shift and still putting a lot of power in his swing.

    Frankly, I don't see them moving Seagar this season. I could see an infield of Seagar, Beckham, Gordon, and Healy with Moore as the utility man. Vogey can spell Healy at first and DH. I could see hanging on to Bruce if he continues to hit, but if he does his trade value will be elevated anyway. We've replenished our farm system, yes, but you can always use more in the pipeline.


    Seager hit a good .292 in spring training 2018 too but sucked yet again in the regular season. He’s on a bad downward trajectory:

    Avg. HR. RBI. OBP. SLG. BB. K
    2016 .278 30 99 .359 .499 69 108
    2017 .249 27 88 .323 .450 58 110
    2018 .221 22 78 .273 .400 38 138

    Frankly, despite his solid fielding we can do much better than him in our lineup everyday. His flat awful contract has created a problem as he has no trade value but that doesn’t mean he should be made the starter again and take away ABs from guys more deserving.

    Healy made a significant change by dropping the leg kick and going with the toe tap and it’s worked wonders. The guy already has 9 doubles-he deserves to continue to be the everyday 3B.

    And if the goal is to try to be competitive next year, then Jerry may want to consider picking up EE’s club option next year at 20 mil. Steep price but not overly excessive when you take a look around the league- Cruz is 3 years older and got $14 mil from the Twins so it’s something to consider.

    Bruce is the 1 guy I would consider moving but if the team continues winning and is in 1st or within a couple games of Houston in July I would hold onto him. If they’re several games back of Houston but in the WC hunt or worse, trade Bruce and consider offers for others.
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:15 am
  • Raise your hand if you thought that despite the downward trend in his production, we'd be talking about leaving Seager to ride the pine this season. Anyone?
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:46 am
  • SmokinHawk wrote:Raise your hand if you thought that despite the downward trend in his production, we'd be talking about leaving Seager to ride the pine this season. Anyone?


    I mean we are talking about it... but that's a far cry from the team talking about it
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:50 am
  • SmokinHawk wrote:Raise your hand if you thought that despite the downward trend in his production, we'd be talking about leaving Seager to ride the pine this season. Anyone?

    Until he stops pulling everything he’d be a defensive replacement in my book.
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:00 pm
  • SmokinHawk wrote:
    Chapow wrote:Averaging 7.8 runs per game through the first 15 games. Next closest is the Dodgers at a full run per game less.

    What the hell is happening?

    :lol:


    They appear to have accidentally made themselves contenders in a rebuilding year.


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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:00 pm
  • West TX Hawk wrote:
    sutz wrote:When Seagar comes back, we'll have 4 first basemen. Encarnacion and Bruce were always trade bait. I liked what Seagar was doing at the plate in spring, he was hitting away from the shift and still putting a lot of power in his swing.

    Frankly, I don't see them moving Seagar this season. I could see an infield of Seagar, Beckham, Gordon, and Healy with Moore as the utility man. Vogey can spell Healy at first and DH. I could see hanging on to Bruce if he continues to hit, but if he does his trade value will be elevated anyway. We've replenished our farm system, yes, but you can always use more in the pipeline.


    Seager hit a good .292 in spring training 2018 too but sucked yet again in the regular season. He’s on a bad downward trajectory:

    Avg. HR. RBI. OBP. SLG. BB. K
    2016 .278 30 99 .359 .499 69 108
    2017 .249 27 88 .323 .450 58 110
    2018 .221 22 78 .273 .400 38 138

    Frankly, despite his solid fielding we can do much better than him in our lineup everyday. His flat awful contract has created a problem as he has no trade value but that doesn’t mean he should be made the starter again and take away ABs from guys more deserving.

    Healy made a significant change by dropping the leg kick and going with the toe tap and it’s worked wonders. The guy already has 9 doubles-he deserves to continue to be the everyday 3B.

    And if the goal is to try to be competitive next year, then Jerry may want to consider picking up EE’s club option next year at 20 mil. Steep price but not overly excessive when you take a look around the league- Cruz is 3 years older and got $14 mil from the Twins so it’s something to consider.

    Bruce is the 1 guy I would consider moving but if the team continues winning and is in 1st or within a couple games of Houston in July I would hold onto him. If they’re several games back of Houston but in the WC hunt or worse, trade Bruce and consider offers for others.


    You have to trade both Bruce and EE at the apex of their value, regardless of where the team is.
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:20 pm
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:07 pm
  • Atradees wrote:more Vogalbombs please.........SoDo Sluggers? Sea Bombers? I like this team. Im living in the moment. I loving Bruce, Encarcion,.......everyone.


    I really only post on .net and that’s rarely (if ever) nowadays... so this has stuck with me for like a week amongst all the rage to moniker this run and if anyone likes it pass it on, use it and abuse it, drop it like it’s hot because it’s very fitting in definition.

    The Dreadnought.


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    Checks all the boxes. And simply sounds bad ass.
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:16 pm
  • When did they rename the DL to the IL?
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:18 pm
  • SeatownJay wrote:When did they rename the DL to the IL?

    Started this offseason.
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:37 pm
  • Pandion Haliaetus wrote:
    Atradees wrote:more Vogalbombs please.........SoDo Sluggers? Sea Bombers? I like this team. Im living in the moment. I loving Bruce, Encarcion,.......everyone.


    I really only post on .net and that’s rarely (if ever) nowadays... so this has stuck with me for like a week amongst all the rage to moniker this run and if anyone likes it pass it on, use it and abuse it, drop it like it’s hot because it’s very fitting in definition.

    The Dreadnought.


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    a type of battleship introduced in the early 20th century, larger and faster than its predecessors and equipped entirely with large-caliber guns.

    Checks all the boxes. And simply sounds bad ass.


    Now thats a thought. The Nickname has to have some relevance to local players or culture or something. Right?

    The Vogelnaughts? SoDoNaughts?
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:36 pm
  • SeatownJay wrote:When did they rename the DL to the IL?


    This year. Disabled list was deemed potentially offensive.
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:47 pm
  • This is the game to win, Verlander and Cole the next two games.
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:12 pm
  • I hate the Astros
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:15 pm
  • Ugh I hate Altuve.
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:07 pm
  • Damn, I Hate the Astros. So much. It's more than me being enviable of them. And maybe more than the being Seattle's bitter rival. Altuve, Springer, Bregman, Marisnick, d*ck, McCullers, the rest of their pitchers, WADE MILEY! The whole lot of them!
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:11 pm
  • 2 grand slams... ouch bullpen. Why couldn’t the Astros suck like they did in the NL for so long? Figures
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:31 pm
  • Why the hell would Servais leave a guy in making his major league debut after loading the bases in a 1 run game? Several other guys available in the pen for the 8th but no Servais is going to leave the rookie in for a full 2 innings. Piss poor managing.
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:38 pm
  • West TX Hawk wrote:Why the hell would Servais leave a guy in making his major league debut after loading the bases in a 1 run game? Several other guys available in the pen for the 8th but no Servais is going to leave the rookie in for a full 2 innings. Piss poor managing.


    That was terrible. Guy stopped being able to find the plate loaded the bases and then allowed the grand slam. :34853_doh: It was completely obvious to the entire planet to pull the pitcher.

    ALSO, where was the Vogelbomb and Narvaez? Trying to destroy the chemistry much?Taking ot two hot hitters so one of the worst pitchers Miley could slow our roll?
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:42 pm
  • Atradees wrote:
    West TX Hawk wrote:Why the hell would Servais leave a guy in making his major league debut after loading the bases in a 1 run game? Several other guys available in the pen for the 8th but no Servais is going to leave the rookie in for a full 2 innings. Piss poor managing.


    That was terrible. Guy stopped being able to find the plate loaded the bases and then allowed the grand slam. :34853_doh:

    ALSO, where was the Vogelbomb and Narvaez? Trying to destroy the chemistry much?



    Catchers need the occasional night off. Voge should have pinch hit at some point.
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:44 pm
  • West TX Hawk wrote:Why the hell would Servais leave a guy in making his major league debut after loading the bases in a 1 run game? Several other guys available in the pen for the 8th but no Servais is going to leave the rookie in for a full 2 innings. Piss poor managing.


    See, I wanted to go there but I didn't want to hear the potential "they're off to a record start, Servais has been great thus far" bull hockey. I'm glad you brought it up, though. Couldn't agree more. Despite this start, there's no way I trust Servais or Dipoto. As has been the case for many a season now, Servais once again proves he struggles mightily with managing his bullpen. Alaniz looked ok, but he completely lost his command after that Altuve single.

    With LeBlanc possibly going to the 10 day IL, I wonder if they'll call Sheffield up.
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:01 pm
  • West TX Hawk wrote:Why the hell would Servais leave a guy in making his major league debut after loading the bases in a 1 run game? Several other guys available in the pen for the 8th but no Servais is going to leave the rookie in for a full 2 innings. Piss poor managing.


    One thing our bullpen doesn't offer is options. People say it is "uncertain." I disagree - our bullpen is very certain.
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:51 am
  • SS mismanages the bullpen often. He’s just gotten away with it until tonight.
    Though I’ll kind of give him a pass because I’m not sure they have much in the way of quality arms, plus Houston tonight probably hits whomever is on the mound.
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:10 am
  • The bullpen is absolutely trash. There might be a few guys that end up being ok but i don't like any of them in a pressure situation.
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:23 am
  • They better score 10+ tonight. I have a feeling Felix is going to get lit up like a pinball machine.
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:35 am
  • Sports Hernia wrote:SS mismanages the bullpen often. He’s just gotten away with it until tonight.
    Though I’ll kind of give him a pass because I’m not sure they have much in the way of quality arms, plus Houston tonight probably hits whomever is on the mound.



    He doesnt have anyone. He has twiddle dee and twiddle dum. Its easy to blame the manager when you can look at GM.
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:46 am
  • Shanegotyou11 wrote:
    Sports Hernia wrote:SS mismanages the bullpen often. He’s just gotten away with it until tonight.
    Though I’ll kind of give him a pass because I’m not sure they have much in the way of quality arms, plus Houston tonight probably hits whomever is on the mound.



    He doesnt have anyone. He has twiddle dee and twiddle dum. Its easy to blame the manager when you can look at GM.


    why blame the GM when this is his plan realized?

    Also.. he had plenty of arms in the bullpen, and while they may not be ideal, any one of them wouldve been a better option then leaving him to pitch to one more batter, especially with 2 outs.
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:22 am
  • I've always felt MLB managers do the least of all the major sports coaches. Their main job is to manage the bullpen. That's their job. Servais has always struggled with it. He has a tendency to leave guys in when they clearly don't have it. That was the case last night.
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Re: Mariners 2019 season
Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:25 pm
  • What bullpen?
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