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 Post subject: Re: Arena Deal thread: UPDATE: Tentative Agreement reached
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.@kccouncil members Reagan Dunn Larry Phillips and Peter Von Reichbauer change from “no” to “yes” to make vote unanimous #SeattleArena
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So there's that.

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.@kccouncil members Reagan Dunn Larry Phillips and Peter Von Reichbauer change from “no” to “yes” to make vote unanimous #SeattleArena
Retweeted by KIRO 7


So there's that.


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.@kccouncil members Reagan Dunn Larry Phillips and Peter Von Reichbauer change from “no” to “yes” to make vote unanimous #SeattleArena
Retweeted by KIRO 7


So there's that.

Lincoln's checks must not have cleared.


No, they didn't. Scheduling, traffic and parking challenges driving to the bank. You know how it is.

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 Post subject: Re: Arena Deal thread: UPDATE: DEAL PASSED AND SIGNED OFF!!!
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As ya'll now know, the deal is signed, sealed, and now waiting for what team we steal away... VICTORY!!! Don't worry about the stupid lawsuit from the port guys. They'll be slapped away like flies. All environmental reviews will be rubber stamped through, and we'll be home free. Our only worry now is finding teams.

It's kinda funny going back to page one when I started this thread, and ALL the UPS and DOWNS! We go from all excited to the frickin' deal's dead quite a few times. Dori Monson (KIRO FM Seattle, 12-3PM) is completely convinced that there is already a handshake deal for a team in place waiting for today's events. We'll find out if Dori is right pretty quick now. I still think it's gonna be the Kings. Time will tell. I think the Maloof's are in for a big-ass payday! JMHO.

I am now dreaming of the first "SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-PER-SONICS!!!!! to bellow thoughout the new arena for the first game back, with Kevin Calabro and his "MAGIC CARPET RIDE" once again hitting Seattle airways! WHOOOOHOOOOOOOO!!!!!! *goosebumps!*

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Yes!

It's a good day to be a Seattle sportsfan.
As for the port, they are simply doing the Mariner's bidding.

I wouldnt be surprised when its getting close to getting an NBA team, an NHL team comes knocking fast and beats the NBA back here. All the NHL has to do is get insurances the arena WILL be getting built. Just one guys opinion.

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An NHL team may come even if there isn't insurance an arena will get built. The Coyotes would be better off financially moving immediately and playing in Key Arena or the Tacoma Dome than they would be by staying in Phoenix, and I am not exaggerating. It's a mess. Hansen could probably pick the team up for pennies on the dollar and move them the day the NHL allows it to take place and have one occupant ready to roll from day 1 of arena completion.

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Oilers Arena deal fell through today, so they are another possibility to move to Seattle.

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Oilers Arena deal fell through today, so they are another possibility to move to Seattle.


I still just don't see that happening. That would be like, well, the Sonics leaving Seattle... :cussing:

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Oilers Arena deal fell through today, so they are another possibility to move to Seattle.

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Oilers Arena deal fell through today, so they are another possibility to move to Seattle.


I still just don't see that happening. That would be like, well, the Sonics leaving Seattle... :cussing:


Yea, I'd be perty turn up about that. Even as an Avs fan, I'd hate to see the Oilers get dicked over like that. That part of Canada is full-blown hockey crazy - I know; I've been there. They live, breathe, eat, sleep, and die hockey. And the Oilers are such a storied franchise.

If not an expansion team, better a lackluster, middle-of-the-road, little supported team like one in the sun belt that's struggling than the Oilers. I want a team in Seattle, but just not like that if I can help it.

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I'd be sick if the Oilers moved. I think there should be a "hands-off" policy on Canadian teams. Any team below the 45th should be the first to move. Teams along the southern US border shouldn't have been so quick to move to those cities, regardless of how fast those cities were growing. There are a lot of snowbirds from Canada that own homes in Phoenix and Miami areas, but you can't depend on part time residents as a fan base. It just doesn't work.

The Angels have tried to market themselves to tourists, thinking that folks will come to Disneyland and also go to an Angels game. It hasn't happened, so now they are trying to move into LA itself. It is the same sort of issue. You can't depend on visitors to fill your seats. You need a strong consistent day-to-day fan base. I think Seattle would have one built in for hockey.

Hockey isn't all that popular here in Utah, but when we had a AAA team, we drew almost as much as a lot of NHL teams. It was a good team, in a good league, and there is a large enough base of people here to support a team. Plus we have a "cold season" so hockey makes a lot of sense. Plus people here need something to do.

Seattle fans have shown they will consistently support a decent team. Not a crappy one, but a decent one and above. Look what the Sounders have done. The M's think their attendance is down because the Sounders FC came along. What a joke. The M's would still be filling the place. The problem for the M's is that they suck, and the Sounders are consistently in the top 3 or 4 teams in the league and win trophies (multiple open cups in a row).

There are PLENTY of fans to fill the seats of a hockey, basketball, baseball, and football teams in Seattle. Here in Utah we fill the seats of the Jazz (around 20,000 a game for 82 games), Real Salt Lake (over 16,000 per game for about 20 games), 3 minor league baseball teams (2 rookie league, 1 triple A), 5 division 1 basketball teams (all within an hour and a half driving distance north and south), and 3 Division 1 Football teams (BYU seats 65,000... U of Utah seats about 60,000, and Utah State about 40,000) and a lower level hockey team. We don't have nearly the population base that the Seattle/Tacoma area has.

There will be no problem. The M's just want to be able to continue to spend little and get a huge return. To get butts in the seats, you need a better product, and competition is bad if you don't want to try. Thus their blatant whining about the whole thing. It's obvious they don't want to invest in the product.

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Anyone want to tell me where this NBA expansion talk is coming from? adding one team in Seattle would uneven things, wouldn't they have to add another city to the mix? Kansas city? Vancouver?

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Anyone want to tell me where this NBA expansion talk is coming from? adding one team in Seattle would uneven things, wouldn't they have to add another city to the mix? Kansas city? Vancouver?

It's just speculation. I don't think you are forced to add 2 teams, though it's ideal, but I still think expansion is very unlikely. The NFL had 31 teams when the Browns were brought back and didn't get even again until the Texans were put in place 3 years later. The NBA could see Seattle as the perfect place for an expansion, as a city that ideally would have never lost its team, give them an expansion, and just plan on an undecided future expansion to even things out at some point soon. Looking at the number of teams positioned to relocate and the number of cities that want a team, it is possible. Chances are most of the "candidates" for relocation won't relocate, so we'll see.


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Anyone want to tell me where this NBA expansion talk is coming from? adding one team in Seattle would uneven things, wouldn't they have to add another city to the mix? Kansas city? Vancouver?

Came from David Stern himself. A reporter asked him about the likelihood of an expansion in several years, and he said one would fit the Seattle arenas time frame perfectly. Of course, I don't want to have to wait another 4-5 years for one when we can get one soon and have them play in the dome or Key until the arena is finished.


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so... whens the ground breaking :P

Seriously though. lets get the Team part done fast. I'm missing the Sonics.

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the islanders are going to be playing in the barclays centre in brooklyn as of 2016, cross em off the list


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Bucks and Grizzlies as far as NBA teams seem to be out of it too. As they are about to re-up their arena leases.

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Stern just announced that he will be stepping down as commish after the 2014 NBA season. If anything that should say that we could get a team by at least 2014.

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I saw that, crazy we knew it was close but damn next season? Best thing for Sonics fans IMO is it'll be sterns right hand man Adam Silver taking over.

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talk is that stern really wants to put a team in seattle before he retires

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Yup... for those of you that missed it...

"Ballmer’s group has been trying to get the Maloof family to sell the Sacramento Kings, so that the franchise can eventually play in a new arena in Seattle.

From the league office, pressure on the Maloofs to sell has been growing, sources said – just as hopes for a new Sacramento arena have been fading. Seattle Sonics fans will never forgive Stern for his complicit role in Clay Bennett’s deception to move that franchise to Oklahoma City, but make no mistake: Stern desperately wants to return the NBA to one of its great markets and wants it for his own measure of vindication before he leaves office."


And there ya go...

Things are getting real my friends...
I think Dori Monson had it right... This was the deal all along, but no one was allowed to say shit. I think the Maloofs held off to see how the city and county voted for the new Arena. At least that's the way I read it. And now Stern has buddy'd up with the Seattle ownership group, mainly Balmer, and is actively involved in pressuring the Maloofs to sell. God, I knew it! This is gonna happen sooner than later man... I just feel it!!! YES!!!

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Sacramento stole them from Omaha who had them stolen by Kansas City. That franchise has always been a mess. The NBA has been a mess since Stern took over. The league has grown a lot, but the league itself is a mess with the ridiculous amount of franchise movement and cash cows that have been expansion teams that were then given more cash to the league to move the team again (see the Grizzlies and Hornets for 2 prime examples).

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All I know is, the kings better not trade Tyreke Evans before they move here!!!!

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Kings are on their fourth city already
and all of this is (or will be) out in the open
I won't feel bad WHEN this happens

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Anyone else seeing these rumors of Phil Jackson being involved with the Hansen/Ballmer group?

If thats true, then mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

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Anyone else seeing these rumors of Phil Jackson being involved with the Hansen/Ballmer group?

If thats true, then mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn


BACK OFF LAKERS! YOU HAD YOUR SHOT!

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If Jackson end up being the coach of the "new" sonics i will literally...... be so excited....


I almost put something else there instead of Excited but this aint the shack so...

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I don't think it would be as a coach. He left the lakers because of health, maybe if he was to be involved in basketball activities it probably would be team president

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Phil Jackson being involved in anything would be great news for us.

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Jackson doesn't take a lot of teams in transition.

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I think if this rumor is true (which isn't likely right now as the buzz is he might be close to joining the Lakers again). Then having a dude like Jackson aboard gives whatever team and this ownership group some sort of allure to it. If Phil Jackson is vouching for 'em what would that to say to potential free agent targets? and good players that are already on the team (Tyreke Evans, DeMarcus Cousins if it is the Kings) It'd be a HUGE boost for that soon-to-be Seattle franchise IF Phil Jackson is involved.

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jackson will coach the lakers if he can get jim buss to give him the power he wants (i.e giving jeannie buss more pull within the whole operation) so that he doesn't have to answer to the gm mitch kutchap (sp) or jim buss about basketball decisions. he is dating jeannie and she runs the business side of things. he is pretty much trying to stick it to jim buss for being a trust fund baby and excoriating any trace of jackson within the lakers organizations after he retired. the guy fired scouts, trainers you name it... he hired mike brown just because he is the polar opposite of phil jackson.

its a comfortable place for jackson to go to. he knows how to rattle kobe properly. he is able to motivate pau gasol (sometimes, nobody can all the time). he is old and not 100% healthy, so going back to a situation where he can get a ring this year and retire again or just know he has the horses to win the race (his calling card from day one as a coach) is enough to get him back. I think he would only coach the lakers. nobody else.

it would be great for seattle but they can accomplish something good with another established coach who will be around longer than a couple seasons or one that will travel with the team to every away game and so on


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some conceptual designs are coming out

http://www.king5.com/news/arena/First-c ... =y&c=y&c=y

Honestly I just wanna see the exterior!

Also would like to add, that I hope they do the lighting like they do at the Barclay's Center for the Nets, and the Staples Center for the Lakers, the darkness around the court, I think it'd go good hand in hand with the Green and Gold color scheme.

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Virginia beach looks to be back in the Kings wheelhouse.

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There is no way that Stern and CO let the Magoofs go anywhere after how much they've boned up. Not worried.

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the maloofs are just biding their time before the death knell. their is no way that david stern is going to let anybody tell him how to leave the nba or how to run his final show imo. he is a classic control freak in the sense that he even went on the air last night to castrate gregg poppovich for not playing duncan/ginobli/parker against lebron's heat on national television. if he thinks he can tell a coach how to run his rotations or when he is allowed to rest his players, well then, do you really think he is going to let the maloof family shove his nose in a pile of shit?

their is no way on god's green earth that the maloofs are going to be able to relocate their team, keep owning it and get their act together in a new city.

*fans buying tickets got boned last night but its about rings and poppovich has won rings doing this before, that's all spurs fans care about...we know popp doesn't give a hoot about outsiders feelings, how he treats sideline reporters is just the tip of the iceberg :)


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NBA is going to have to drag me back before I give it much interest, but the arena stuff gets me a little excited. Here's some new exterior renderings released: http://mynorthwest.com/27/2141833/Image ... a-released

Not too bad. The best features so far might be the views of the bay and city. How many NBA arena's actually have something similar?

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I knew there was more than just the preferred cruise ship looking thing lol, I personally love the circular/oval arena

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I'll add this as well, there's also some rumblings that the Maloofs might be cracking and will be selling soon, Georgle Maloof is believed to want out, another is 50/50, and another doesn't want to sell.

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NBA is going to have to drag me back before I give it much interest, but the arena stuff gets me a little excited. Here's some new exterior renderings released: http://mynorthwest.com/27/2141833/Image ... a-released

Not too bad. The best features so far might be the views of the bay and city. How many NBA arena's actually have something similar?


Why in the world would you go to a sporting event and care at all about the views other then whats on the field or court?

Great looking building though.

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NBA is going to have to drag me back before I give it much interest, but the arena stuff gets me a little excited. Here's some new exterior renderings released: http://mynorthwest.com/27/2141833/Image ... a-released

Not too bad. The best features so far might be the views of the bay and city. How many NBA arena's actually have something similar?


Why in the world would you go to a sporting event and care at all about the views other then whats on the field or court?

Great looking building though.


UW and the water. Centurylink and the Seattle skyline. I've always liked my stadiums to be more than generic boxes. Having views can only be a cool thing, IMO.

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we must be getting close because stern all but said today or yesterday brock and salk had it on that. seattle was the next stop for the nba.

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i like the oval UFO design better too...

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