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 Post subject: Re: New NBA/NHL/ARENA in Seattle thread...
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Man...the more and more I look into this situation, the less and less confident I am that we will get either an NHL or NBA team. I mean just listening to Paul Silvi's Northwest Sports Tonight, he said that he doubts that any team will come to Seattle.

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Too many "if's" in this scenario.

Case-in-point, the NBA/NHL is entirely attracted to the idea that we build a new arena. If that means a new arena in Sacramento, Seattle, or Anaheim neither league cares where as long as it's fancy and new.

I have no problem with any local analyst being a realist when it comes to the likelihood of the NBA/NHL coming to Seattle. Everyone's made it perfectly clear, only if/when an arena is going to be built will either league come.

What really amazing and confusing at the same time is that the league will make more of its money off TV contracts than it will with any revenue created from the arena... but that never stopped the NBA from building its league on a shakey foundation.

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Shaddup!

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Piss off Sac. We were screwed, now it's your turn (hopefully). If you do lose your team to Seattle, wait 4 years, then find a rich guy to bring your Kings back. Deal with it. I'm sure we have no intention of bringing anything Kings back with us. Why would we want to?

And I vehomently disagree with this guys post.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1059 ... itys-heart

If we get the Kings, and they are rebranded the Sonics with history intact, I would look at it as a 4 year break. As far as I would be concerned they would be the Sonics, especially after we retooled the franchise in our own image. I guess expansion would be preferred, especially with all the high draft picks, but after a few seasons most people won't give it a second thought, IMO.

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Someone needs to ask sactown how they got the kings in the first place

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Someone needs to ask sactown how they got the kings in the first place


Excellent point... I'm sure there's a fan or two left in Kansas City still pissed at Sacramento...

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I've got a prediction for you guys. If the Sonics return next season Nate McMillan will be their head coach. Which would be kind of cool to have Mr. Sonic back along with the NBA in Seattle.

His contract is up at the end of this season and the way the Blazers have been playing the last month I dont see him coming back unless they really can turn things around.

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Man... I wish mac10 didn't leave in the first place. It was nothing but bad things after he left for Portland. Of course Howard Shultz ran him out like he did Payton.

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Man as each passing day goes along, I keep hearing and reading that our chances of getting a team are getting lower and lower. Man and I got my hopes all up, just like I tried not to do.

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The vote that passed really isn't anything just gives them the ok the sell those parking areas. From what I hear its still a long way for sactown to go before anythings ok'd about a new arena for sacramento. They still need the nba to fit an $80 million bill, do you really think they'd do that? When they wouldn't put in $50 million here for a new arena?

NBA already bailed the Maloofs out once, I don't expect that to happen again, not at that price atleast.

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From what I've been hearing on Seattle news radio, even if they pass the parking thing, there's still roughly $150 million that hasn't been accounted for. They are still short that amount. I think they're waiting for a knight in shining armor to show up with the cash, but given the state of the economy down there, there will be an uproar if the city even thinks about raiding the coffers to pay for it. I'm still banking on a 50/50 chance, and I'm still optimistic. Sac is rapidly running out of time. Oh, and of maybe bigger concern is that there is no guarantee that the team would go to Seattle if the stars do align. Anaheim is still a strong contender... Which is frickin' ridiculous since that'd put 3 NBA teams in a 50 mile radius, as was mentioned earlier. STUPID! I'm sure most NBA fans in Anaheim are already Lakers or Clippers fans, and the Kings would be doomed to failure there. Like I said earlier, why in the hell would they choose to do that over a hungry fanbase up here in the 12th largest TV market? :229031_banghead:

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YESSSSS! This is toooooo damn good. I sure he hope we pull an NHL team too...


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Yup, King5 news just had breaking news, during the 5pm newscast, that there will be an announcement tomorrow over Arena plans south of Safeco. This still begs the question though.... Why would they be doing this if the Sacramento deal is so iffy? There is something going on behind the scenes that we are not privvy to. I'm looking forward to this coming to light. This is so interesting! And exciting. Hard to not get your hopes up!

As an asides, the Bob Rivers Show today played a clip from a guy down in Sac that was pissed over Seattle's raging attempts to steal the Kings before they have their offer on the table. "Jeez Seattle, at least let us propose to the Kings before you barge in with a bigger rock"... hahahahahaha

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Question for people who know more than me:

What kind of deal will need to be struck with the city? In some articles it mentions finding a 'fair deal' and an 'offer to the city'. Will there be something that must be approved by voters? Or what? I'm terrified of that prospect. This is why I wish we lived in a dictatorship....a dictatorship run by people who like sports.


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This is why I wish we lived in a dictatorship....a dictatorship run by people who like sports.


LMAO!!!! I want a dictatorship run by people who like drugs and free hookers! And Sports!

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This is why I wish we lived in a dictatorship....a dictatorship run by people who like sports.


LMAO!!!! I want a dictatorship run by people who like drugs and free hookers! And Sports!

Now that I think about it....
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This is why I wish we lived in a dictatorship....a dictatorship run by people who like sports.


Yeaaaah! :P

It'll be interesting how this plays out, there's a lot of work to be done, but hey this is awesome!


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Twitter is jumping with some awful high enthusiasm over this right now!

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Oh please, please make this happen! For both NBA and NHL!

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This is why I wish we lived in a dictatorship....a dictatorship run by people who like sports.


LMAO!!!! I want a dictatorship run by people who like drugs and free hookers! And Sports!

what he said ^ :th2thumbs: Free hookers RULE! 8)

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I don't want Sacramento to get railroaded the way Seattle did, i want to see them get every fair chance they can, if it comes down to them being jobbed the way Seattle did then i don't want it and wont watch them. then there is the evil slimy piece of crap who runs the nba who makes me sick every time i see him speak.

I would LOVE to see us get the Sonics back and a NHL team, just do it the right way and don't shaft other city's the way we got screwed.

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I don't want Sacramento to get railroaded the way Seattle did, i want to see them get every fair chance they can, if it comes down to them being jobbed the way Seattle did then i don't want it and wont watch them. then there is the evil slimy piece of crap who runs the nba who makes me sick every time i see him speak.

I would LOVE to see us get the Sonics back and a NHL team, just do it the right way and don't shaft other city's the way we got screwed.


Sacramentos been dealing with this for 6 years. If that isn't fair, then what is? NBA has basically set up an embassy there to help. They've had their chance. This is the way the game is, we gotta okiedoke another city, they should be mad at the NBA not us.

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I don't want Sacramento to get railroaded the way Seattle did, i want to see them get every fair chance they can, if it comes down to them being jobbed the way Seattle did then i don't want it and wont watch them. then there is the evil slimy piece of crap who runs the nba who makes me sick every time i see him speak.

I would LOVE to see us get the Sonics back and a NHL team, just do it the right way and don't shaft other city's the way we got screwed.


Sacramentos been dealing with this for 6 years. If that isn't fair, then what is? NBA has basically set up an embassy there to help. They've had their chance. This is the way the game is, we gotta okiedoke another city, they should be mad at the NBA not us.


Yea, they've been giving them mouth-to-mouth resuscitation for years, and have been met with nothing but apathy. Only now, when a move is imminent do they react. They've been more than fair to Sacramento.

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Cool fair enough, I've ignored the nba since the Sonics left so I'm not really up to date on whats been going on.

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When the Sonics left I was out of state on some military training that required a lot of time and attention. That, combined with the fact that I have never really followed the NBA too closely, this is how I found out about the Sonics leaving:

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Sweet NBA/NHL. Hansen wants the NBA and will work to get it here.

But once the arena is official, no matter the owner of the team, I'm thinking its a given that the NHL lands in Seattle - they'd almost force their way in. Seattle would balance the conference, have a natural rival, not be an outpost, theres an appetite for hockey as there is 5 or so WHL teams that succeed in the northwest.The NHL will jump at the chance to move a sunbelt team North. The players are from northern climates and would be happy in Seattle and fit right in the community with their off-ice class and shaggy beards.


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I miss the Sonics and GP is my all-time favorite NBA player but I miss them and was tore up about it more than anything because they were one of our teams, representing Seattle and the NW and they were our oldest pro team. I've never really been a big NBA fan, just followed because of the Sonics. I am much more into College Bball and the tourney, and mainly the tourney. So I'd be much more pumped about an NHL team when it comes down to it.


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#NHL commish Gary Bettman: "There’s probably good potential for Seattle as a hockey market, but we are not looking to relocate ... (cont.)"

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"Report: AHL owner interested in bringing NHL to Seattle
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David Shoalts of The Globe and Mail reports that Don Levin — owner of the AHL’s Chicago Wolves — has expressed interest in an NHL franchise for Seattle.

Levin told Shoalts that if hedge-fund manager Chris Hansen is successful in building an arena in Seattle and bringing back an NBA team, he’d be willing to get involved on the NHL front."

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Looks like Paul Allens cool with it.

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500M private funding, 200M from the public, which would be payed back in a self funded way. No new taxes. Thats the huge part IMO.

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"It was a sad day when the Sonics left Seattle, a move I opposed. It’s exciting to think about the NBA coming back to Seattle and renewing the rivalry with the Portland Trail Blazers. However, it is too early for me to comment any further without a specific plan or proposal to review."


Personally as a Portlander, and Oregonian, i'm hoping the NBA happens in Seattle (couldnt care less about the NHL). Its getting old having the Ducks, and to a lesser extent the Beavs, whoop up on the Huskies and Cougs all the time. We need another Seattle sport team we can whoop up on. :D

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Personally as a Portlander, and Oregonian, i'm hoping the NBA happens in Seattle (couldnt care less about the NHL). Its getting old having the Ducks, and to a lesser extent the Beavs, whoop up on the Huskies and Cougs all the time. We need another Seattle sport team we can whoop up on. :D



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500M private funding, 200M from the public, which would be payed back in a self funded way. No new taxes. Thats the huge part IMO.


Yea, that's big! All eventually privately funded, because the 200M from the public would be paid back in rent monies. This is as close to perfect as anyone could ever hope for with a stadium deal.

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Personally as a Portlander, and Oregonian, i'm hoping the NBA happens in Seattle (couldnt care less about the NHL). Its getting old having the Ducks, and to a lesser extent the Beavs, whoop up on the Huskies and Cougs all the time. We need another Seattle sport team we can whoop up on. :D



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My bad, I thought we were talking about real, grown up sports. :D

In seriousness though, and not to derail this thread, but I tried getting into the MLS and the Timbers last year because i really enjoy international soccer, it lasted for about a month or two and then I grew bored with it.

Different strokes for different folks i guess.

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Not sure if someone has posted that already but its still exciting!!!

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Ok, here are my links for today. This is now real. I seriously can't believe it. I've been optimistic, but to see this now splashed on the front page of the Seattle Times and dominating talk radio today... This is very cool! I know it's going to be the lead story on the tv news at 5 o'clock. Whoohoo! Now we just need to worry about securing the teams. That could derail this entire thing. But this proposal is a no-brainer. It's a sweet deal that even the most non-sports minded city official could be against.

Here's the video of the press conference:

http://www.seattlechannel.org/videos/vi ... ID=5191203

This link has audio of the press conference from 2:00 pm today from Seattle Mayor Mike McGinn and King County executive Dow Constantine on the proposal, plus several other links to related stories.

http://mynorthwest.com/11/628965/Privat ... -new-arena

From the Seattle Times:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/l ... na17m.html

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/s ... from=stnv2

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/j ... wer16.html

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/s ... ley16.html

Sacremento Bee newspaper:

Be sure to read the comments below the blog post.

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