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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:46 am
  • InSuarezWeTrust wrote:Well, I hope United is proud of themselves for a stunning display of being fuckfaces in all facets.

    How is that different from any other day?
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:19 am
  • If by that you mean how Liverpool got screwed, I agree. I saw the penalty that lead to the PK goal, and I swear to god the United player was going down before any contact happen.

    Arsenal deserved that massive point they got at Man City today. I'll agree Arsenal should have won, they missed a shit load of chances. By far that was Gervinho's worst performance of the season. I was a bit surprised that Vermaelen didn't play as I thought at the very least Mertesacker would be the one left out of the starting 11. Cazorla and Koscielny were the best players for Arsenal. As for the City goal, I just think that was unlucky for the Gunners, they've been doing that set up for corners for most of this season and it was the first time it didn't work.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:40 am
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:49 am
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    Bugger off, SMurf. The ref made two ridiculous calls that cost Liverpool the match.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sun Sep 23, 2012 1:47 pm
  • Dumbfounding decisions by the referee today, taking away from the emotion and drama of one of the great rivalries in sport. And yes, I don't think shelvys tackle was any worse than what evans was giving back. Tick them off and move on. Te penalty was classic United. And yes smurf I'm daring you to defend your teams performance today. Daring you to defend your disgrace of a supporters group tryin to shout down ynwa during the tribute and feeling it worthwhile to sing at kelly as he limps off with a knee injury.

    Gate... noone here gives a shit about arsenal. You make it impossible to care when you keep excusing away every thing as luck or fortune. Gervino is a terrible player, you got that right. Podolski was back to earth. You caught city at the worst. Trend I hope continues for them
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:22 pm
  • I didn't see the other games this weekend, but the 2 Spurs games this week (Lazio and QPR) have been encouraging. While Dembele and Sandro may lack the creativity and finesse of Modric and van der Vaart they go a long way to making up for it with physicality and skill of there own. We look a lot more imposing now but still miss Modric's ability to see the gaps and make the passes that most midfielders missed. Vertonghen is Man. What a great footballer he looks to be. He showed today that he can play on the left as well as at centreback. Caulker looks like he'll become a force too.

    Things are definitely looking promising. I really like that we hard a hard-hitting midfield now. I think it complements the pace we have on the flanks pretty well. We're stronger in defense than we were last year. What is still lacking is ruthlessness in front of goal. We are getting in great positions but not putting away enough of our chances. Hopefully this will improve as the team plays together more.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:05 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:Dumbfounding decisions by the referee today, taking away from the emotion and drama of one of the great rivalries in sport. And yes, I don't think shelvys tackle was any worse than what evans was giving back. Tick them off and move on. Te penalty was classic United. And yes smurf I'm daring you to defend your teams performance today. Daring you to defend your disgrace of a supporters group tryin to shout down ynwa during the tribute and feeling it worthwhile to sing at kelly as he limps off with a knee injury.

    Gate... noone here gives a shit about arsenal. You make it impossible to care when you keep excusing away every thing as luck or fortune. Gervino is a terrible player, you got that right. Podolski was back to earth. You caught city at the worst. Trend I hope continues for them


    Couple of things.

    1. I haven't seen the game. I didn't watch it live, or seen any highlights. I simply just know the score. I offer no opinion on what happened. As of right now, I'll take your word for it. I offer no defense for me team, out of ignorance of the subject alone.

    2. That being said, the picture is hilarious.

    3. I'm going to remind you that I am the exception when it comes to United fans. Not going to cram it down your throats about how great we are, and then make a disgrace of our great club with the songs we sing. The shit they did today is horrible and wrong on many levels. Just as wrong as Chelsea, City and Liverpool fans singing about the Munich Air Disaster. Hopefully the club will discipline its own supporters for this, and United should be forced to play a game closed doors like the clubs in Italy do for racist chants. Hell, maybe fine em some points.

    For the most part United fans are a bunch of classless f***s.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:01 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:Gate... noone here gives a shit about arsenal. You make it impossible to care when you keep excusing away every thing as luck or fortune. Gervino is a terrible player, you got that right. Podolski was back to earth. You caught city at the worst. Trend I hope continues for them


    Of course no one here does, I'm the only god damn Arsenal fan on this forum. I don't know how long it's going to take for you to get it in your thick skull that I'm not gonna straight up say Arsenal is what you want them to be. Part of me thinks your taking your frustrations involving Liverpool out on me because I have a fricken positive attitude. Gervinho isn't a terrible player but he's his own worst enemy, Podolski has one bad game and it seems your heading back to hacking him. Yes we caught City at their worst, yes Arsenal didn't fully capitalize on it, but Arsenal picked up a massive point at the Etihad and have remained unbeaten, that's something to be proud of and I don't need a buzzkill like you to ruin my mood.

    Hell I've even sympathized with Liverpool over their loss and you and you alone have made me start to regret doing that.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:13 am
  • Gatehawk wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:Gate... noone here gives a shit about arsenal. You make it impossible to care when you keep excusing away every thing as luck or fortune. Gervino is a terrible player, you got that right. Podolski was back to earth. You caught city at the worst. Trend I hope continues for them


    Of course no one here does, I'm the only god damn Arsenal fan on this forum. I don't know how long it's going to take for you to get it in your thick skull that I'm not gonna straight up say Arsenal is what you want them to be. Part of me thinks your taking your frustrations involving Liverpool out on me because I have a fricken positive attitude. Gervinho isn't a terrible player but he's his own worst enemy, Podolski has one bad game and it seems your heading back to hacking him. Yes we caught City at their worst, yes Arsenal didn't fully capitalize on it, but Arsenal picked up a massive point at the Etihad and have remained unbeaten, that's something to be proud of and I don't need a buzzkill like you to ruin my mood.

    Hell I've even sympathized with Liverpool over their loss and you and you alone have made me start to regret doing that.



    Gate, I bet you don't know this...But I love Arsenal. Like, I really, really do. I was just as pissed as you when Fabregas left...and then Nasri...and then clichy...and then RVP (a lot less on that one actually).

    Arsenal are one of my top 3 teams in the world.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:36 am
  • Thats great, you two go have an intimate shower together.... take Slappy in the Warrior shirt with you.

    Gate, I dont mind a bit of optimism, but every post is littered with such custard its to the point of obsurdity. Arsenal were "unlucky" on the header? not beaten by a world class player and a top drawer finish. Just... unlucky. No mention of the luck they got at the end, with the soft clearance to the middle and poor pressure on the ball gifting a free shot from 12 out?

    Cant we temper it with a little realism? I'd love to know how the game really went (how Mancini's tactics are ruining City, or what was Toure doing all day) and had Gervinho and Podolski played they may have taken the whole lot of points. but nope, just "unlucky". we arent on the Arsenal and Liverpool fan sites, we're on a Seahawks site.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:46 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:Thats great, you two go have an intimate shower together.... take Slappy in the Warrior shirt with you.

    Gate, I dont mind a bit of optimism, but every post is littered with such custard its to the point of obsurdity. Arsenal were "unlucky" on the header? not beaten by a world class player and a top drawer finish. Just... unlucky. No mention of the luck they got at the end, with the soft clearance to the middle and poor pressure on the ball gifting a free shot from 12 out?

    Cant we temper it with a little realism? I'd love to know how the game really went (how Mancini's tactics are ruining City, or what was Toure doing all day) and had Gervinho and Podolski played they may have taken the whole lot of points. but nope, just "unlucky". we arent on the Arsenal and Liverpool fan sites, we're on a Seahawks site.


    Lescott is a good player but he is not world class. The luck on that was in City's favor, for one Mannone shouldn't have left goal, add to that City only got the corner cause Gibbs misjudged a clearance.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:58 am
  • Gatehawk wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:Thats great, you two go have an intimate shower together.... take Slappy in the Warrior shirt with you.

    Gate, I dont mind a bit of optimism, but every post is littered with such custard its to the point of obsurdity. Arsenal were "unlucky" on the header? not beaten by a world class player and a top drawer finish. Just... unlucky. No mention of the luck they got at the end, with the soft clearance to the middle and poor pressure on the ball gifting a free shot from 12 out?

    Cant we temper it with a little realism? I'd love to know how the game really went (how Mancini's tactics are ruining City, or what was Toure doing all day) and had Gervinho and Podolski played they may have taken the whole lot of points. but nope, just "unlucky". we arent on the Arsenal and Liverpool fan sites, we're on a Seahawks site.


    Lescott is a good player but he is not world class. The luck on that was in City's favor, for one Mannone shouldn't have left goal, add to that City only got the corner cause Gibbs misjudged a clearance.


    Ok, that's not luck, gate. That's poor execution by Arsenal's players.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:30 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:Thats great, you two go have an intimate shower together.... take Slappy in the Warrior shirt with you.

    Gate, I dont mind a bit of optimism, but every post is littered with such custard its to the point of obsurdity. Arsenal were "unlucky" on the header? not beaten by a world class player and a top drawer finish. Just... unlucky. No mention of the luck they got at the end, with the soft clearance to the middle and poor pressure on the ball gifting a free shot from 12 out?

    Cant we temper it with a little realism? I'd love to know how the game really went (how Mancini's tactics are ruining City, or what was Toure doing all day) and had Gervinho and Podolski played they may have taken the whole lot of points. but nope, just "unlucky". we arent on the Arsenal and Liverpool fan sites, we're on a Seahawks site.



    Yeah, I'll pass.


    There is a reason I don't talk about my love of Arsenal here...
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:03 pm
  • Saw the game today.


    United were crap. Liverpool were the better side.

    Valencia went down WAY too easy.

    Personally I felt the Shelvey sending off was really, really harsh. Just a yellow for me. If you red card Shelvey for that, you have to red card Evans too. Evans went in just as recklessly, if not more so, than Shelvey did.

    Rafael's goal was class. Should have ended in a draw.

    That said...

    Arsenal are extremely lucky that City already have Silva, and Nasri, and that Chelsea already have Mata, Hazard, and Oscar....cause Santi Cazorla is one hell of a footballer. Arsenal are lucky to have him.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:59 am
  • peachesenregalia wrote:
    Gatehawk wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:Thats great, you two go have an intimate shower together.... take Slappy in the Warrior shirt with you.

    Gate, I dont mind a bit of optimism, but every post is littered with such custard its to the point of obsurdity. Arsenal were "unlucky" on the header? not beaten by a world class player and a top drawer finish. Just... unlucky. No mention of the luck they got at the end, with the soft clearance to the middle and poor pressure on the ball gifting a free shot from 12 out?

    Cant we temper it with a little realism? I'd love to know how the game really went (how Mancini's tactics are ruining City, or what was Toure doing all day) and had Gervinho and Podolski played they may have taken the whole lot of points. but nope, just "unlucky". we arent on the Arsenal and Liverpool fan sites, we're on a Seahawks site.


    Lescott is a good player but he is not world class. The luck on that was in City's favor, for one Mannone shouldn't have left goal, add to that City only got the corner cause Gibbs misjudged a clearance.


    Ok, that's not luck, gate. That's poor execution by Arsenal's players.



    and that has been what I've been trying to say all along.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:41 am
  • worse call? Tate's TD or Valencia's pen?
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:11 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:worse call? Tate's TD or Valencia's pen?


    Both were horrendous calls, but Tate's TD.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:50 pm
  • Capital One Cup 4th Round Draw
    Chelsea vs Manchester United
    Sunderland vs Middlesbrough
    Swindon Town vs Aston villa
    Norwich City vs Tottenham Hotspur
    Liverpool vs Swansea City
    Leeds United vs Southampton
    Wigan vs Bradford
    Reading vs Arsenal
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:23 pm
  • Gatehawk wrote:Capital One Cup 4th Round Draw
    Chelsea vs Manchester United
    Sunderland vs Middlesbrough
    Swindon Town vs Aston villa
    Norwich City vs Tottenham Hotspur
    Liverpool vs Swansea City
    Leeds United vs Southampton
    Wigan vs Bradford
    Reading vs Arsenal



    I'm delighted to see that Chelsea are playing United. Norwich and Reading should be wins for Spurs and Arsenal but both are away fixtures so a bit trickier. Liverpool and Swansea are both having issues with consistency; I'd predict a Liverpool win but wouldn't put a lot of money on it.

    It was good to see City and Everton go out this week.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:34 pm
  • After 5 weeks it looks like this is a wide open premier league.

    City and Mancini look burdened by the weight of expectation and pretty average compared to last year, especially at keeping goals out.

    United are having troubles keeping defenders healthy, which somewhat balances out adding quality at the other end in van Persie and Kagawa. Johnny Evans is certainly not in the same stratosphere as Vidic.

    Chelsea have showed signs of vulnerability in defence but good in attack, with the notable exception of their £50m striker. They need to get Lukaku back from his loan and ditch Torres. They'll probably end up selling Torres and paying £90m for Falcao instead.

    Arsenal look good but will need to show that, unlike recent seasons, they can maintain their recent form for most rather than some of it.

    Spurs have had a predictably slow start to the season getting used to a new manager and new players, but haven't lost in 6 games now. AVB appears to be taking a similar approach to Carroll with Wilson, playing conservatively and trying to minimize mistakes while the team gets used to each other. They've looked better when they've been more attacking, however, but with the exception of an arguably unjust draw against a very good Lazio we've won our last few games and have only played badly once this season.

    Liverpool are having a similar season to last and are generally playing better than the result would suggest, but lacking consistency.

    Everton appear to be this season's Newcastle while Newcastle should still be in the mix, despite struggling a little more than last year.

    It's shaping up to be a good season yet again.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:49 am
  • Hawkspur wrote:
    Gatehawk wrote:Capital One Cup 4th Round Draw
    Chelsea vs Manchester United
    Sunderland vs Middlesbrough
    Swindon Town vs Aston villa
    Norwich City vs Tottenham Hotspur
    Liverpool vs Swansea City
    Leeds United vs Southampton
    Wigan vs Bradford
    Reading vs Arsenal



    I'm delighted to see that Chelsea are playing United. Norwich and Reading should be wins for Spurs and Arsenal but both are away fixtures so a bit trickier. Liverpool and Swansea are both having issues with consistency; I'd predict a Liverpool win but wouldn't put a lot of money on it.

    It was good to see City and Everton go out this week.


    For a tournament that everyone blasted Liverpool winning last year there were some competitive matches featuring the some of the world's best players. Funny enough, Liverpool played a very young squad. City and Villa went after it, as did Newcastle and United (for the most part, a good balance of reserves and starters).

    Hope it lasts into the later rounds.

    It was nice to see Liverpool beat a BPL team, even if it wasnt within league play.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:18 am
  • A question for those of you in the US: how do you guys watch premier league games? Are you able to watch all games on TV or is it necessary, as it is in the UK, to employ hooky methods. Over here, depending on which team you support, you get between about 6 and 15 live matches, spread between 2 different subscription providers. Any other games you either have to attend or watch via illegal streams.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:27 am
  • Hawkspur wrote:A question for those of you in the US: how do you guys watch premier league games? Are you able to watch all games on TV or is it necessary, as it is in the UK, to employ hooky methods. Over here, depending on which team you support, you get between about 6 and 15 live matches, spread between 2 different subscription providers. Any other games you either have to attend or watch via illegal streams.


    Fox Soccer channel actually does pretty good, and ESPN2 shows some matches, too. You can also get Fox Soccer Plus for even more games. Between those three, most of the major teams are covered, but for FSC and FS+, you're probably forking out $20 a month or more. Seems like ESPN handles the early Saturday matches (12:30 kickoff), FSC and FSplus each show one of the 3:00 matches, FSC shows the late game, then they each show a couple of the other 3:00 matches later in the day. Sundays, between FSC and FSplus, we get most of the games, usually the ones involving the bigger teams.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:55 am
  • Hawkspur wrote:A question for those of you in the US: how do you guys watch premier league games? Are you able to watch all games on TV or is it necessary, as it is in the UK, to employ hooky methods. Over here, depending on which team you support, you get between about 6 and 15 live matches, spread between 2 different subscription providers. Any other games you either have to attend or watch via illegal streams.


    Fox sports, espn or illegal streams. I have a site I usse that shows basically every game. just synch it and attach the laptop to the tv
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:52 am
  • Hawkspur wrote:A question for those of you in the US: how do you guys watch premier league games? Are you able to watch all games on TV or is it necessary, as it is in the UK, to employ hooky methods. Over here, depending on which team you support, you get between about 6 and 15 live matches, spread between 2 different subscription providers. Any other games you either have to attend or watch via illegal streams.


    I usually go down to a good local football pub that 99% of the time has Liverpool on live, or on a 1 or 2 hour delay. If I lack the motivation or funds to head down I just type "Liverpool stream" into the twitter search, and viola!
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:18 am
  • Cheers. Si, I take the same approach that you do. The quality now is generally very good so it really does make paying £40 extra a month for Sky and ESPN and still getting only about a third of the matches hard to justify. I get to spend a bit of that money on NFL Gamepass instead.

    From what Peaches says you guys have better access to games on TV, which doesn't surprise me.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:23 am
  • I'll be interested in hearing the details, but John Terry appears to have gotten off pretty lightly at first glance. 4 games and a weeks wage fine? You can get 3 games for a bad tackle. I'm sure Suarez will feel a bit hard done by.

    Anyway, it'll be interesting to see what Chelsea does about this. They recently banned a fan for life for racially abusing Drogba and make a lot of noise about having zero tolerance of racism so I'd expect Terry to have played his last game as captain at the very least.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:32 am
  • Hawkspur wrote:I'll be interested in hearing the details, but John Terry appears to have gotten off pretty lightly at first glance. 4 games and a weeks wage fine? You can get 3 games for a bad tackle. I'm sure Suarez will feel a bit hard done by.

    Anyway, it'll be interesting to see what Chelsea does about this. They recently banned a fan for life for racially abusing Drogba and make a lot of noise about having zero tolerance of racism so I'd expect Terry to have played his last game as captain at the very least.


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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:38 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:For a tournament that everyone blasted Liverpool winning last year there were some competitive matches featuring the some of the world's best players. Funny enough, Liverpool played a very young squad. City and Villa went after it, as did Newcastle and United (for the most part, a good balance of reserves and starters).

    Hope it lasts into the later rounds.

    It was nice to see Liverpool beat a BPL team, even if it wasnt within league play.


    Honestly, the COC is only called the Mickey Mouse Cup if that fan's team is knocked out.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:50 am
  • Alright, now that I've had time to let it sink in, I'm utterly FURIOUS with Terry and the FA. What a F***ing sham. Seriously. Complete bollocks to punish one player who admitted what he did and tried to offer explanation, even when no video or audio evidence was available, with an 8-match ban, then punish another player who very clearly called a player a 'black c**t' with video evidence to prove it, with a 4 match ban even after he refused to plead guilty.

    I'm done this season, i think. I can't be arsed watching anymore.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:54 am
  • peachesenregalia wrote:Alright, now that I've had time to let it sink in, I'm utterly FURIOUS with Terry and the FA. What a F***ing sham. Seriously. Complete bollocks to punish one player who admitted what he did and tried to offer explanation, even when no video or audio evidence was available, with an 8-match ban, then punish another player who very clearly called a player a 'black c**t' with video evidence to prove it, with a 4 match ban even after he refused to plead guilty.

    I'm done this season, i think. I can't be arsed watching anymore.


    It's pretty poor alright.

    The FA seem to be absolutely incapable of making a good decision. Ever.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:49 am
  • For Liverpool fans (Suarez, peaches)

    What do you think of Sterling, Suso and now Wisdom, Yesil, Assaidi, Pacheco, even Sinclair?
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:43 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:For Liverpool fans (Suarez, peaches)

    What do you think of Sterling, Suso and now Wisdom, Yesil, Assaidi, Pacheco, even Sinclair?


    Sterling is top-drawer. Fantastic wee player.

    Suso impressed me so far.

    Yesil I haven't seen much, so I can't give an accurate assessment

    Assaidi is fast. REALLY fast. good skill and I think should be working his way into the first team sooner rather than later.

    Pacheco I've always rated as a youngster, not sure how well he'll do in the first team though. Doesn't hurt to have another striking option around though.

    Haven't seen sinclair

    Wisdom is a puzzler to me. He's looked fantastic at times and seems to disappear at other times. I'll wait and see on him.

    Future looks very bright with these young lads, though.
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Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:01 pm
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    Uncle Si wrote:For Liverpool fans (Suarez, peaches)

    What do you think of Sterling, Suso and now Wisdom, Yesil, Assaidi, Pacheco, even Sinclair?


    Sterling is top-drawer. Fantastic wee player.

    Suso impressed me so far.

    Yesil I haven't seen much, so I can't give an accurate assessment

    Assaidi is fast. REALLY fast. good skill and I think should be working his way into the first team sooner rather than later.

    Pacheco I've always rated as a youngster, not sure how well he'll do in the first team though. Doesn't hurt to have another striking option around though.

    Haven't seen sinclair

    Wisdom is a puzzler to me. He's looked fantastic at times and seems to disappear at other times. I'll wait and see on him.

    Future looks very bright with these young lads, though.



    I pretty much agree with everything said here. I haven't seen much of Yesil either, but if Borini's dip in form continues who do you reckon gets the call up? Yesil? Assaidi out wide and move Suarez to the center?
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Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:56 pm
  • I watch via streams and games on ESPN3 (I don't have cable TV of any kind). I will usually download a game or two the day after they are played and then I'll also snatch Match Of The Day. My roommate and I watch that every week. 80 minutes and it gives you extended highlights for all the days matches. A must watch for me...Their analysis is pretty interesting too.
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Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:27 am
  • Wow. What an intense game of football that was.

    Go AVB! Come On You Spurs!
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Sat Sep 29, 2012 12:06 pm
  • Well done Spurs. Exposed Man Ure's problems for all to see.

    Livepool were excellent today save for two defensive mistakes, both coming when then game was already put to bed.

    Chelsea are the team to beat this season. Incredible squad they've put together.
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Sat Sep 29, 2012 12:49 pm
  • peachesenregalia wrote:Well done Spurs. Exposed Man Ure's problems for all to see.

    Livepool were excellent today save for two defensive mistakes, both coming when then game was already put to bed.

    Chelsea are the team to beat this season. Incredible squad they've put together.


    I agree about Chelsea being the team to beat. I don't think anyone else is guaranteed to finish in the top 4 at this stage.

    It's been a good week and a half for Liverpool, and that coming after a controversial loss to United too.

    I'm looking forward to Match of the Day now, especially so that I can see 'Arry try to take the credit for the win today. The Sun will no doubt be finding some way to say that by letting United back into the game that AVB has 3 games to save his job as well.
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Sun Sep 30, 2012 1:35 pm
  • Better by Liverpool... but still frail in the back. Depsite giving up two goals well after the game was settled, they looked vulnerable for decent stretches. Still, this match belonged to Suarez, and it wasnt just the hat trick. his movement was fantastic and kept Norwich pinned back, really allowed the rest of group to move forward.

    Great job by Spurs, but what a game. Spurs the faster, more incisive team up until the 60th minute. United really pushed Spurs all over their defensive third those last 30 minutes. the fact they didnt equalize is almost a mystery. Van Persies left footed miss was a shocker.

    Chelsea dont look as strong as their point total indicates. Arsenal deserved better from the game, and Terry was constantly out of sorts dealing with Girouds runs. If they dont find help in that cback position I can see them starting to drop. Not out of the top four, but maybe out of the top spot.

    The team that needs to be given some due right now is Everton. Simply winning matches.
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Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:18 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:Chelsea dont look as strong as their point total indicates. Arsenal deserved better from the game, and Terry was constantly out of sorts dealing with Girouds runs. If they dont find help in that cback position I can see them starting to drop. Not out of the top four, but maybe out of the top spot.


    I almost threw my computer out the window after the second Chelsea goal. I don't believe that either team deserved to win that match. It was Arsenal's worst performance this year, and Chelsea caught a massive break when Cech forced Giroud wide enough to somehow miss his shot at the end. The first Chelsea goal I think shouldn't have counted, namely cause I saw Torres yanking on Koscielny's shirt keeping him from fully turning around, Kos should have defended that better though. The second goal came off a free kick after a foul that seemed a bit soft.

    Giroud's already getting unfairly criticized for his one legitimate chance. Gervinho looked much better this week and has already equaled his goal tally from last season. Podolski looked a bit exhausted just before he was brought off. I really don't know if Mertesacker would have made a real significant difference if he had played. And now it looks as if Wilshere's return to EPL action is gonna be sooner than later after Diaby's injury.
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Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:36 am
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    Uncle Si wrote:Chelsea dont look as strong as their point total indicates. Arsenal deserved better from the game, and Terry was constantly out of sorts dealing with Girouds runs. If they dont find help in that cback position I can see them starting to drop. Not out of the top four, but maybe out of the top spot.


    I almost threw my computer out the window after the second Chelsea goal. I don't believe that either team deserved to win that match. It was Arsenal's worst performance this year, and Chelsea caught a massive break when Cech forced Giroud wide enough to somehow miss his shot at the end. The first Chelsea goal I think shouldn't have counted, namely cause I saw Torres yanking on Koscielny's shirt keeping him from fully turning around, Kos should have defended that better though. The second goal came off a free kick after a foul that seemed a bit soft.

    Giroud's already getting unfairly criticized for his one legitimate chance. Gervinho looked much better this week and has already equaled his goal tally from last season. Podolski looked a bit exhausted just before he was brought off. I really don't know if Mertesacker would have made a real significant difference if he had played. And now it looks as if Wilshere's return to EPL action is gonna be sooner than later after Diaby's injury.


    I think Giroud's criticism needs to lay less at what he did with his one chance and more at why it was only one chance? Terry looked lost all afternoon, and yet Giroud rarely made him turn his head.

    Still, as a non part watching the game, I saw Arsenal play quite well. I disagree on Torres goal, both parties were guilty of grabbing and clutching, as is everyone in those scrums. Noone gained an advantage over it. Torres was quite tricky with his feet there, all credit to him.

    Gervinho really just slows Arsenal down. He stands over the ball too much, rarely moves off of it once he finally does decide to pass, and asaide from a finish here and there slows his Arsenal down. Gunners should also feel let down by Podolski, who rarely found the match. But still, with all that, they deserved a point. The second Chelsea goaal was class Gate, thats a solid hit by Hazard right through the attacking channel. Have seen alot of those slide in, nic a post or slide just wide this season.
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Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:19 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:I think Giroud's criticism needs to lay less at what he did with his one chance and more at why it was only one chance? Terry looked lost all afternoon, and yet Giroud rarely made him turn his head.

    Still, as a non part watching the game, I saw Arsenal play quite well. I disagree on Torres goal, both parties were guilty of grabbing and clutching, as is everyone in those scrums. Noone gained an advantage over it. Torres was quite tricky with his feet there, all credit to him.

    Gervinho really just slows Arsenal down. He stands over the ball too much, rarely moves off of it once he finally does decide to pass, and asaide from a finish here and there slows his Arsenal down. Gunners should also feel let down by Podolski, who rarely found the match. But still, with all that, they deserved a point. The second Chelsea goaal was class Gate, thats a solid hit by Hazard right through the attacking channel. Have seen alot of those slide in, nic a post or slide just wide this season.


    Like I said Podolski looked gassed on Saturday, that may have played a part in his lack of involvment.

    I wouldn't say Chelsea's second goal was class, but I will say it found the perfect spot to sneak past Koscielny's sliding challenge and Mannone's somewhat poor save attempt. I hope the Gunners don't let this loss get to them too much, because this was a bit of a buzzkill loss.

    I'm not too down about the loss as I said at the beginning of September, Arsenal needed to get at least 7 or 8 points to make it a successful month (since the only simple game was Southampton) and they managed to get 7, though I expected the loss to be against City. It would have been nice to get the win and I'm frustrated that Arsenal could not get a point against Chelsea, I have to say it's mostly to do with a good performance by Cech.
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Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:25 am
  • An okay 1st half by Arsenal, if not for some good positioning by the Hammers, Arsenal could have scored at least 3 times before they finally broke through. And as luck would have it, Giroud is the one who scores off of a great low cross by Podolski. Diamme has the goal for West Ham, which came off a completely unexpected shot and massively against the run of play.
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Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:41 am
  • 3-1 Arsenal picking up the win. Great performance off the defeat to Chelsea, West Ham's strategy backfired as they constantly kept trying to get the ball to Carroll. Walcott and Cazorla(with an epic strike) finished off the scoring. Actually before Walcott's goal, West Ham looked like the more likely to score and it was the first time West Ham left any space for Arsenal to really attack the goal. After that West Ham's defense just didn't look as good as before and Cazorla finished them off with a wicked curving strike that Jaaskelainen had no chance to stop it.

    Elsewhere, City finally got a clean sheet but everyone will be talking about Balotelli and Mancini... again, Chelsea bullied Norwich, Mark Hughes tenure at QPR is on life support, and Swansea and Everton managed 2-2 draws each.
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Sat Oct 06, 2012 11:33 am
  • Gatehawk wrote: Mark Hughes tenure at QPR is on life support


    One more loss and 'Arry will be licking his chops at the prospect of being able to rekindle his favourite motto: "When I came 'ere they 'ad 2 points from 8 games."

    Hughes has to be one of the most uninspiring, uncharasmatic managers in the business. I like QPR as a club though. Good ground in an interesting location. I've only been to see rugby league there but I'd imagine it'd be a good place to watch football. Pretty good fans too. I hope they stay up.
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Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:41 pm
  • Arsenal's board has apparently revealed that Wenger will have 35 million pounds to spend in the January Transfer window to "reinforce" the squad. I highly doubt if anything, that they'll spend all 35 million, and moreso all of it for one player as that article has caused some rumors of Arsenal going for Falcao.

    Is it weird that at this point last year a lot of us were thinking it was the end of Wenger? Hell there were calls for him to be sacked actually. Last year at this point Arsenal had 7 points and 4 losses and were 15th, this year Arsenal has 12 points, 1 loss, and is 7th in the league, add to that they've given up more than 5 goals(they had five conceeded by the 30th minue of the Nightmare at Old Trafford). What a difference a year makes huh?
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Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:50 am
  • Gatehawk wrote:Arsenal's board has apparently revealed that Wenger will have 35 million pounds to spend in the January Transfer window to "reinforce" the squad. I highly doubt if anything, that they'll spend all 35 million, and moreso all of it for one player as that article has caused some rumors of Arsenal going for Falcao.


    I'm pretty sure that Wenger would need significantly more than £35 million for Falcao. Atletico paid almost exactly that for him only about a season ago. I don't even know if they'd need to sell him.
    Llorente or Villa would seem more likely options to me.

    And as you've alluded to, Wenger has never felt the need to pay superstar prices before, it's not the way he tends to work.
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Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:15 am
  • I found an interesting "What If" question on Facebook. The question went:

    If your club shut down tomorrow/didn't exist anymore, which club would you support?

    Now I assume the question was referring to teams in the same league as it went on to mention that if anyone said their direct rivals then for that person to fuck off.

    For me I'd probably have to say Newcastle cause they're really the only other EPL team I'm ever compelled into watching besides Arsenal.
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Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:04 am
  • Gatehawk wrote:I found an interesting "What If" question on Facebook. The question went:

    If your club shut down tomorrow/didn't exist anymore, which club would you support?

    Now I assume the question was referring to teams in the same league as it went on to mention that if anyone said their direct rivals then for that person to fuck off.

    For me I'd probably have to say Newcastle cause they're really the only other EPL team I'm ever compelled into watching besides Arsenal.


    Probably QPR, as far as the premier league goes. Good ground, location and fans. They hate Chelsea with a passion so I wouldn't have much to learn to fit in.

    I also have a soft spot for Brentford as one of my best mates goes there quite often. I've been a couple of times and it's been fun. If I didn't have Spurs to spend my money on I'd go to a lot more games here in Bristol, although I'm not sure if that'd be City or Rovers.
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