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 Post subject: Re: UEFA Champions League Knockout Stage
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Well done, Real. Great performance. Fantastic decision by the ref, too.

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Well done, Real. Great performance. Fantastic decision by the ref, too.



Roy Keane has made the best comments on it in my opinion. Unfortunate, but Nani put himself at the discretion of the ref.

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Uncle Si wrote:
peachesenregalia wrote:
Well done, Real. Great performance. Fantastic decision by the ref, too.



Roy Keane has made the best comments on it in my opinion. Unfortunate, but Nani put himself at the discretion of the ref.

Well done by Dortmund



It was a fairly similar decision to Adebayor's red card against Arsenal earlier in the season. It was probably harsh but, as you say, it's up to the discretion of the ref.

I was pleased to see Modric score a great goal. Hopefully he can kick on from here.


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I just watched the red card again a few times without commentary. That was a dark dark orange card at the very least. Probably shouldn't be, but seeing as you can get a yellow card either for going in studs up and getting all ball or for even slightly mistiming a tackle on occasions then Nani can't have many complaints. Arbeloa was taking evasive action and ended up with a boot in his chest. Considering the impact it has on the game to send him off I think it should be a yellow, but an understandable red given today's climate.


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I just watched the red card again a few times without commentary. That was a dark dark orange card at the very least. Probably shouldn't be, but seeing as you can get a yellow card either for going in studs up and getting all ball or for even slightly mistiming a tackle on occasions then Nani can't have many complaints. Arbeloa was taking evasive action and ended up with a boot in his chest. Considering the impact it has on the game to send him off I think it should be a yellow, but an understandable red given today's climate.



Cant disagree... really, Nani put himself to the clatter, regardless of intent, and left it to the ref. Again, Roy Keane said it best.... "did Nani really think he had 20 yards of field?" Thought what was interesting was how long the ref waited before pulling red. I feel like he was conferring with the sideline officials. Either way, it wasnt rash not spur of the moment. He took a good minute or so while he waited.

Harsh decision... maybe a bit unfair. but hard to say it was wrong ultimately. But really harsh. I would be lost if it was Liverpool tbf.


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I just watched the red card again a few times without commentary. That was a dark dark orange card at the very least. Probably shouldn't be, but seeing as you can get a yellow card either for going in studs up and getting all ball or for even slightly mistiming a tackle on occasions then Nani can't have many complaints. Arbeloa was taking evasive action and ended up with a boot in his chest. Considering the impact it has on the game to send him off I think it should be a yellow, but an understandable red given today's climate.



Cant disagree... really, Nani put himself to the clatter, regardless of intent, and left it to the ref. Again, Roy Keane said it best.... "did Nani really think he had 20 yards of field?" Thought what was interesting was how long the ref waited before pulling red. I feel like he was conferring with the sideline officials. Either way, it wasnt rash not spur of the moment. He took a good minute or so while he waited.

Harsh decision... maybe a bit unfair. but hard to say it was wrong ultimately. But really harsh. I would be lost if it was Liverpool tbf.


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Having watched the incident, I think the red was ultimately correct. Can't believe I agree with Roy Keane, but if anyone knows the dangers of violent challenges, it's him. Nani can have no complaints. Nor can Fergie, that hypocritical old bastard. I forget who it was kicked the ball at RVPs head earlier in the year when Fergie thought he should have been sent off because it 'could have killed' RVP, but yet Nani goes in studs up with an uncontrolled lunge and a red is harsh? Get a grip.

Yes, the red did turn the tide in favor of Real, but there was still a lot of football left to play, no guarantee that Real wouldn't have pulled it out anyway.

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Well, hard lines, GateHawk. Arsenal fought well, but Like Liverpool a couple of weeks ago, came up just short.

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Well, hard lines, GateHawk. Arsenal fought well, but Like Liverpool a couple of weeks ago, came up just short.


Honestly, that scoreline was exactly what I predicted. Though I had done so when it wasn't known that Szczesny, Wilshere and Podolski were going to miss out.

My belief that Arsenal could have done it shot through the roof in those first 3 minutes when Giroud's sweaty goal was scored, not sure if it would have happened if Alaba hadn't slipped in the build up. I started to get nervous again as the game went on and when Koscielny scored, I really thought they could pull it off. But in the end it wasn't to be.

Fabianski's performance in goal was definitely worthy of a man of the match, at least in my opinion, and he may well have put Szczesny on notice that he wants that starting job back. It's also good to see Gibbs back.

I still am proud of the fight Arsenal showed, wish they had played like that more in the 1st leg as well, and I sure as hell hope they use this will launch them into a top 4 finish, as that's all they have left to play for again.


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Probably the best post you've ever made in this forum, Gate. Well done.

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Looks like Inter's showing how toothless Spurs are without Bale. 2-0 and plenty of time to get a third.


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Well, hard lines, GateHawk. Arsenal fought well, but Like Liverpool a couple of weeks ago, came up just short.


Honestly, that scoreline was exactly what I predicted. Though I had done so when it wasn't known that Szczesny, Wilshere and Podolski were going to miss out.

My belief that Arsenal could have done it shot through the roof in those first 3 minutes when Giroud's sweaty goal was scored, not sure if it would have happened if Alaba hadn't slipped in the build up. I started to get nervous again as the game went on and when Koscielny scored, I really thought they could pull it off. But in the end it wasn't to be.

Fabianski's performance in goal was definitely worthy of a man of the match, at least in my opinion, and he may well have put Szczesny on notice that he wants that starting job back. It's also good to see Gibbs back.

I still am proud of the fight Arsenal showed, wish they had played like that more in the 1st leg as well, and I sure as hell hope they use this will launch them into a top 4 finish, as that's all they have left to play for again.


it was a nice win for Arsenal. still in shock Bayern hadnt scored 3-4 goals. Fabianski was brilliant. Will be interesting to see what impact the game has on them for the run in. Honestly that scoreline could have been 2-2, or even 3/4-2 Bayern. It would have been fair, and I wonder what Arsenal would have come away thinking. (and Bayern for that matter... they were rightfully doubtful at the end. Arsenal looked far more likely to score a 3rd then they did a 1st the last 8 minutes)

Instead Fabianski (and some fantastic penalty box tackling from the back four) kept it at 0 and now gives Arsenal a boost. Heroic job.


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Looks like Inter's showing how toothless Spurs are without Bale. 2-0 and plenty of time to get a third.



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Spurs beat Inter 3-0 with Gareth Bale, without him, they concede 3 goals and go to extra time. Shows how much they rely on them doesn't it? It's the fear factor that's different.


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Spurs beat Inter 3-0 with Gareth Bale, without him, they concede 3 goals and go to extra time. Shows how much they rely on them doesn't it? It's the fear factor that's different.



well that, and he's one of the top 4 players in the world.

I dont mind the away goal rule, but dont think it should apply with extra time. Feel like Inter was hard done by that. Still, Spurs have to be breathing a deep, deep sigh of relief. I cant imagine they expected any of that.


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Spurs beat Inter 3-0 with Gareth Bale, without him, they concede 3 goals and go to extra time. Shows how much they rely on them doesn't it? It's the fear factor that's different.



well that, and he's one of the top 4 players in the world.

I dont mind the away goal rule, but dont think it should apply with extra time. Feel like Inter was hard done by that. Still, Spurs have to be breathing a deep, deep sigh of relief. I cant imagine they expected any of that.


I agree Si, away goals should not apply in extra time.

As for Bale, clearly we missed him. There were a lot of factors that contributed to the poor showing. Parker and Gallas had bad games and AVB changed the formation to try to get an away goal which never came. Also, Inter looked like a different team. I seriously thought that they'd bombed the first leg because they wanted out of the competition.


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Does anyone give Juventus any chance in Italy to actually go through?

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Does anyone give Juventus any chance in Italy to actually go through?



I cant see it. Bayern looked a far superior team and countered Juve's 3-5-2 very well. Juventus needs goals now (they were fortunate it wasnt 3 or 4 tbf) and will need to expose themselves. Bayern's skill should prevail.

I think Bayern score atleast one, which really heaps the pressure on Juve.

The PSG-Barca match in Spain should be a fantastic one. PSG were fortunate (twice) to score and make a fixture of it. I hated the pen call so the last goal made up for it. Ibra was far offside on the first goal.

Still, PSG can be sneaky. I dont see them doing it, but should make for good drama.

Dortmund take care of it at home. Real breeze through.


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I have a feeling Juventus may surprise Bayern at home. I wouldn't say they would go through but they can make Bayern nervous. With that said, the key in my opinion would be an early goal for Juventus. If they manage to score within first 15 minutes then it could be a very interesting game. However, I must say Bayern looks very dangerous and now that they have won the bundesliga title their focus would be only on the champions league glory.

I agree about PSG-Barca game, it should be a fantastic match. I give PSG about 25% chance of advancing. If they can create chances on the counter, then they can be successful.

I would disagree on Dortmund v Malaga game. I give Malaga a good shot at actually winning. I know that Dortmund on their day can beat anyone but I just have a feeling about Malaga going through. Quiet frankly I want them to go through, perhaps my personal feelings clouded my judgement.

As far as Real goes, easy win.

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I was impressed with Malaga. that was one of the better 0-0 games you will come across. I shouldnt have sounded so sure of the Dortmund tie. I feel like Dortmund's class will get them the win. But certainly Malaga is capable. Very good young talent on the team, and they dont seem the type of group that will come in and park the bus.


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Yes, I agree that was one of the better 0-0 games I've watched in recent years. The real question for Malaga is really, where are the goals going to come from if in fact Dortmund scores first.

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Yes, I agree that was one of the better 0-0 games I've watched in recent years. The real question for Malaga is really, where are the goals going to come from if in fact Dortmund scores first.



Malaga with the goal... Dortmund with work to do


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Yes indeed. Dortmund just seem a bit out of place, lots of bad passes.

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Yes indeed. Dortmund just seem a bit out of place, lots of bad passes.



Game on. Great goal. this will be a fun 2nd half


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Absolutely, Reus's pass was amazing.

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Absolutely, Reus's pass was amazing.


tremendous save keeps Malaga in it. 15 to go..

wow! and another!

That should do it... although Malaga scorer was offside there.

Still, well earned

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I hate it. How the heck did Malaga allowed 2 goals so late.

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So what match ups do we want to see in the semis?


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Barca v Dortmund
Real v Bayern


Not sure they'll have that though, I think they'd rather see each league get one rep in the final, so it'll probably be Barca v Real, Dortmund v Bayern. Should all be fantastic matches no matter what way you slice it.

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Barca v Dortmund
Real v Bayern


Not sure they'll have that though, I think they'd rather see each league get one rep in the final, so it'll probably be Barca v Real, Dortmund v Bayern. Should all be fantastic matches no matter what way you slice it.


Derby semis would be great for all involved, probably more epic than a derby final.

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Well, Bayern - Barcelona match up should produce lots of excitement. I am also interested to see whether Real can manage to overcome the results against Dortmund in the group stage. I would think they would but you never know.

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Well, Bayern - Barcelona match up should produce lots of excitement. I am also interested to see whether Real can manage to overcome the results against Dortmund in the group stage. I would think they would but you never know.


Would have preferred Bayern-Real, Barca-Dortmund... but still quality semis. Going to be good. I like Bayern and Real


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I actually think it'll be an all-Kraut derby for the final. I just fancy Dortmund to beat Real over the two legs.

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I actually think it'll be an all-Kraut derby for the final. I just fancy Dortmund to beat Real over the two legs.


They took 4 points of 6 in the group stage so its a good call.


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4-0 Munich in the first leg, and it looks like not even Messi and Ronaldo combined would be able to save Barca now.

And here's something you don't see every day either:

Though in his defense it was Ribery that did it.


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Yes, that was absolutely terrible performance by Barcelona. Bayern looked very good but I wouldn't crown them champions just yet.

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Dortmund and Madrid playing for the right to lose to Bayern in the final. Would like to see Dortmund pull through though.


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Dortmund and Madrid playing for the right to lose to Bayern in the final. Would like to see Dortmund pull through though.


Bayern look the part, but don't count out some silly performance from Barca. I reckon a Dortmund/Bayern final would be a cracker, though. Loving the Bundesliga these days. Racism and all.

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Dortmund and Madrid playing for the right to lose to Bayern in the final. Would like to see Dortmund pull through though.


Bayern look the part, but don't count out some silly performance from Barca. I reckon a Dortmund/Bayern final would be a cracker, though. Loving the Bundesliga these days. Racism and all.


Would love to see the Bundesliga in the US on a network other than GOL TV.

I get that Barca will be fighting for their lives on the return leg, but I don't see Bayern crapping the bed that bad to let 4 goals past. Especially without a 100% fit Messi.


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This is a rant.. so bear with

Bayern showed the class that is the Bundesliga. They have been quickly building (not just as a team, as a league) with fantastic players, coaches and style. The destruction of Barcelona showed today that Bayern is quite capable of playing Barca style better, stronger, faster than even they can. Ruthless defending, speed and power in the counter, clinical finishing and such wonderful and stylistic and free flowing attacks. And now they add Pep and Goetze? I feel Dortmund will show us something tomorrow as well, the same approach. Just not the same players.

Germany is going to be the place to play in the very near future. And here I go. The FA need to be careful about its treatment of Suarez and others or they will find the better players more than happy to ply their craft in Germany. Schalke, Dortmund, Bayern all visited the final 8. Others are close by. Germany is no La Liga, and it certainly lacks the depth of the PL. But its gaining in notoriety and popularity while.possible having the three of 5 top teams in the world.

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Germany is going to be the place to play in the very near future. And here I go. The FA need to be careful about its treatment of Suarez and others or they will find the better players more than happy to ply their craft in Germany. Schalke, Dortmund, Bayern all visited the final 8. Others are close by. Germany is no La Liga, and it certainly lacks the depth of the PL. But its gaining in notoriety and popularity while.possible having the three of 5 top teams in the world.

Such is my feeling on today


Germany is not going to be the place to play in near future. Whoever pays the most will get the players. Bundesliga won't surpass EPL as the most exciting and popular league in Europe. I just don't see it happening.

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I can see Bayern choke again in the final.

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It already is surpassing it. Sure you can follow the paper trail of team finances, but its no secret that the PL teams are losing money. And while Fox and ESPN love to focus on the PL the best players in the world are leaving. If Bale and Suarez leave, both real possibilities, then what World Class footballer is left? British teams are falling further behind, and its no accident.

Just my opinion. I'm pretty pissed right now. but the PL and the FA look ridiculous against the court of common sense today. As a world class player, why deal with an organization that allows knee high tackles, elbows to the face and stamping with little to no repudiation but will go 10 games for a bite?


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German football putting the pain in Spain.


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 Post subject: Re: UEFA Champions League Knockout Stage
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 Post subject: Re: UEFA Champions League Knockout Stage
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That was a crazy game. I'm still baffled by Real's defense, Reus was absolutely slicing it with his long runs.

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 Post subject: Re: UEFA Champions League Knockout Stage
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How good is the pool of players available to play for Germany in the next world cup...

Marin, Reus, Gotze, podolski Bittencourt, muller, holtby, hummels, der stegan, schweinstiger, ozil, draxler, leitner, merckel, khadera, and on and on and on


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 Post subject: Re: UEFA Champions League Knockout Stage
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Doesn't sound like a German team.

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 Post subject: Re: UEFA Champions League Knockout Stage
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MANUNITED23 wrote:
Doesn't sound like a German team.

Did I screw up the names?

Tbh I'm not exactly sure if they all are part of the german pool


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