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Post subject: Re: UEFA Champions League Knockout Stage Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:50 pm |
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Well done, Real. Great performance. Fantastic decision by the ref, too.
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Post subject: Re: UEFA Champions League Knockout Stage Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:38 pm |
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peachesenregalia wrote: Well done, Real. Great performance. Fantastic decision by the ref, too. Roy Keane has made the best comments on it in my opinion. Unfortunate, but Nani put himself at the discretion of the ref. Well done by Dortmund
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Post subject: Re: UEFA Champions League Knockout Stage Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:42 pm |
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Uncle Si wrote: peachesenregalia wrote: Well done, Real. Great performance. Fantastic decision by the ref, too. Roy Keane has made the best comments on it in my opinion. Unfortunate, but Nani put himself at the discretion of the ref. Well done by Dortmund It was a fairly similar decision to Adebayor's red card against Arsenal earlier in the season. It was probably harsh but, as you say, it's up to the discretion of the ref. I was pleased to see Modric score a great goal. Hopefully he can kick on from here.
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Post subject: Re: UEFA Champions League Knockout Stage Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:55 pm |
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hell of a goal from Modric
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Post subject: Re: UEFA Champions League Knockout Stage Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:15 pm |
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I just watched the red card again a few times without commentary. That was a dark dark orange card at the very least. Probably shouldn't be, but seeing as you can get a yellow card either for going in studs up and getting all ball or for even slightly mistiming a tackle on occasions then Nani can't have many complaints. Arbeloa was taking evasive action and ended up with a boot in his chest. Considering the impact it has on the game to send him off I think it should be a yellow, but an understandable red given today's climate.
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Post subject: Re: UEFA Champions League Knockout Stage Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:47 pm |
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Hawkspur wrote: I just watched the red card again a few times without commentary. That was a dark dark orange card at the very least. Probably shouldn't be, but seeing as you can get a yellow card either for going in studs up and getting all ball or for even slightly mistiming a tackle on occasions then Nani can't have many complaints. Arbeloa was taking evasive action and ended up with a boot in his chest. Considering the impact it has on the game to send him off I think it should be a yellow, but an understandable red given today's climate. Cant disagree... really, Nani put himself to the clatter, regardless of intent, and left it to the ref. Again, Roy Keane said it best.... "did Nani really think he had 20 yards of field?" Thought what was interesting was how long the ref waited before pulling red. I feel like he was conferring with the sideline officials. Either way, it wasnt rash not spur of the moment. He took a good minute or so while he waited. Harsh decision... maybe a bit unfair. but hard to say it was wrong ultimately. But really harsh. I would be lost if it was Liverpool tbf.
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Post subject: Re: UEFA Champions League Knockout Stage Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:47 pm |
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Hawkspur wrote: I just watched the red card again a few times without commentary. That was a dark dark orange card at the very least. Probably shouldn't be, but seeing as you can get a yellow card either for going in studs up and getting all ball or for even slightly mistiming a tackle on occasions then Nani can't have many complaints. Arbeloa was taking evasive action and ended up with a boot in his chest. Considering the impact it has on the game to send him off I think it should be a yellow, but an understandable red given today's climate. Cant disagree... really, Nani put himself to the clatter, regardless of intent, and left it to the ref. Again, Roy Keane said it best.... "did Nani really think he had 20 yards of field?" Thought what was interesting was how long the ref waited before pulling red. I feel like he was conferring with the sideline officials. Either way, it wasnt rash not spur of the moment. He took a good minute or so while he waited. Harsh decision... maybe a bit unfair. but hard to say it was wrong ultimately. But really harsh. I would be lost if it was Liverpool tbf.
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Post subject: Re: UEFA Champions League Knockout Stage Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:25 pm |
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Having watched the incident, I think the red was ultimately correct. Can't believe I agree with Roy Keane, but if anyone knows the dangers of violent challenges, it's him. Nani can have no complaints. Nor can Fergie, that hypocritical old bastard. I forget who it was kicked the ball at RVPs head earlier in the year when Fergie thought he should have been sent off because it 'could have killed' RVP, but yet Nani goes in studs up with an uncontrolled lunge and a red is harsh? Get a grip.
Yes, the red did turn the tide in favor of Real, but there was still a lot of football left to play, no guarantee that Real wouldn't have pulled it out anyway.
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Post subject: Re: UEFA Champions League Knockout Stage Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:28 pm |
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Well, hard lines, GateHawk. Arsenal fought well, but Like Liverpool a couple of weeks ago, came up just short.
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Post subject: Re: UEFA Champions League Knockout Stage Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:30 pm |
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peachesenregalia wrote: Well, hard lines, GateHawk. Arsenal fought well, but Like Liverpool a couple of weeks ago, came up just short. Honestly, that scoreline was exactly what I predicted. Though I had done so when it wasn't known that Szczesny, Wilshere and Podolski were going to miss out. My belief that Arsenal could have done it shot through the roof in those first 3 minutes when Giroud's sweaty goal was scored, not sure if it would have happened if Alaba hadn't slipped in the build up. I started to get nervous again as the game went on and when Koscielny scored, I really thought they could pull it off. But in the end it wasn't to be. Fabianski's performance in goal was definitely worthy of a man of the match, at least in my opinion, and he may well have put Szczesny on notice that he wants that starting job back. It's also good to see Gibbs back. I still am proud of the fight Arsenal showed, wish they had played like that more in the 1st leg as well, and I sure as hell hope they use this will launch them into a top 4 finish, as that's all they have left to play for again.
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Post subject: Re: UEFA Champions League Knockout Stage Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:39 pm |
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Probably the best post you've ever made in this forum, Gate. Well done.
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Post subject: Re: UEFA Champions League Knockout Stage Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:22 am |
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Looks like Inter's showing how toothless Spurs are without Bale. 2-0 and plenty of time to get a third.
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Post subject: Re: UEFA Champions League Knockout Stage Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:50 am |
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Gatehawk wrote: peachesenregalia wrote: Well, hard lines, GateHawk. Arsenal fought well, but Like Liverpool a couple of weeks ago, came up just short. Honestly, that scoreline was exactly what I predicted. Though I had done so when it wasn't known that Szczesny, Wilshere and Podolski were going to miss out. My belief that Arsenal could have done it shot through the roof in those first 3 minutes when Giroud's sweaty goal was scored, not sure if it would have happened if Alaba hadn't slipped in the build up. I started to get nervous again as the game went on and when Koscielny scored, I really thought they could pull it off. But in the end it wasn't to be. Fabianski's performance in goal was definitely worthy of a man of the match, at least in my opinion, and he may well have put Szczesny on notice that he wants that starting job back. It's also good to see Gibbs back. I still am proud of the fight Arsenal showed, wish they had played like that more in the 1st leg as well, and I sure as hell hope they use this will launch them into a top 4 finish, as that's all they have left to play for again. it was a nice win for Arsenal. still in shock Bayern hadnt scored 3-4 goals. Fabianski was brilliant. Will be interesting to see what impact the game has on them for the run in. Honestly that scoreline could have been 2-2, or even 3/4-2 Bayern. It would have been fair, and I wonder what Arsenal would have come away thinking. (and Bayern for that matter... they were rightfully doubtful at the end. Arsenal looked far more likely to score a 3rd then they did a 1st the last 8 minutes) Instead Fabianski (and some fantastic penalty box tackling from the back four) kept it at 0 and now gives Arsenal a boost. Heroic job.
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Post subject: Re: UEFA Champions League Knockout Stage Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:58 am |
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Gatehawk wrote: Looks like Inter's showing how toothless Spurs are without Bale. 2-0 and plenty of time to get a third. extra time!
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Post subject: Re: UEFA Champions League Knockout Stage Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:59 am |
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Spurs beat Inter 3-0 with Gareth Bale, without him, they concede 3 goals and go to extra time. Shows how much they rely on them doesn't it? It's the fear factor that's different.
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Post subject: Re: UEFA Champions League Knockout Stage Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:46 pm |
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Gatehawk wrote: Spurs beat Inter 3-0 with Gareth Bale, without him, they concede 3 goals and go to extra time. Shows how much they rely on them doesn't it? It's the fear factor that's different. well that, and he's one of the top 4 players in the world. I dont mind the away goal rule, but dont think it should apply with extra time. Feel like Inter was hard done by that. Still, Spurs have to be breathing a deep, deep sigh of relief. I cant imagine they expected any of that.
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Post subject: Re: UEFA Champions League Knockout Stage Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:30 am |
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Uncle Si wrote: Gatehawk wrote: Spurs beat Inter 3-0 with Gareth Bale, without him, they concede 3 goals and go to extra time. Shows how much they rely on them doesn't it? It's the fear factor that's different. well that, and he's one of the top 4 players in the world. I dont mind the away goal rule, but dont think it should apply with extra time. Feel like Inter was hard done by that. Still, Spurs have to be breathing a deep, deep sigh of relief. I cant imagine they expected any of that. I agree Si, away goals should not apply in extra time. As for Bale, clearly we missed him. There were a lot of factors that contributed to the poor showing. Parker and Gallas had bad games and AVB changed the formation to try to get an away goal which never came. Also, Inter looked like a different team. I seriously thought that they'd bombed the first leg because they wanted out of the competition.
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Post subject: Re: UEFA Champions League Knockout Stage Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:16 am |
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Does anyone give Juventus any chance in Italy to actually go through?
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Post subject: Re: UEFA Champions League Knockout Stage Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:16 am |
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MANUNITED23 wrote: Does anyone give Juventus any chance in Italy to actually go through? I cant see it. Bayern looked a far superior team and countered Juve's 3-5-2 very well. Juventus needs goals now (they were fortunate it wasnt 3 or 4 tbf) and will need to expose themselves. Bayern's skill should prevail. I think Bayern score atleast one, which really heaps the pressure on Juve. The PSG-Barca match in Spain should be a fantastic one. PSG were fortunate (twice) to score and make a fixture of it. I hated the pen call so the last goal made up for it. Ibra was far offside on the first goal. Still, PSG can be sneaky. I dont see them doing it, but should make for good drama. Dortmund take care of it at home. Real breeze through.
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Post subject: Re: UEFA Champions League Knockout Stage Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:26 am |
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I have a feeling Juventus may surprise Bayern at home. I wouldn't say they would go through but they can make Bayern nervous. With that said, the key in my opinion would be an early goal for Juventus. If they manage to score within first 15 minutes then it could be a very interesting game. However, I must say Bayern looks very dangerous and now that they have won the bundesliga title their focus would be only on the champions league glory.
I agree about PSG-Barca game, it should be a fantastic match. I give PSG about 25% chance of advancing. If they can create chances on the counter, then they can be successful.
I would disagree on Dortmund v Malaga game. I give Malaga a good shot at actually winning. I know that Dortmund on their day can beat anyone but I just have a feeling about Malaga going through. Quiet frankly I want them to go through, perhaps my personal feelings clouded my judgement.
As far as Real goes, easy win.
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