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If we named them The Chiefs, we'd have Native American groups accusing us of racism. :(

Huh? Why? Nobody's ever complained about the nfl's KC Chiefs. It's not a derogatory name. Why would anyone care and how is that racism? Did I miss something?



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If we named them The Chiefs, we'd have Native American groups accusing us of racism. :(

Huh? Why? Nobody's ever complained about the nfl's KC Chiefs. It's not a derogatory name. Why would anyone care and how is that racism? Did I miss something?

They're focusing their limited resources on the Redskns for now--that's just the beginning.

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So it wasnt humor? :hmmmm:

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If we named them The Chiefs, we'd have Native American groups accusing us of racism. :(

Huh? Why? Nobody's ever complained about the nfl's KC Chiefs. It's not a derogatory name. Why would anyone care and how is that racism? Did I miss something?

They're focusing their limited resources on the Redskns for now--that's just the beginning.



That's just stupid. "Redskins" is a derogatory term and was used as an insult. There is nothing insulting about "Chiefs" or "Totems" or anything else relating to native culture. The groups going after the redskins name will stop there.

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Lords of Scythia wrote:
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If we named them The Chiefs, we'd have Native American groups accusing us of racism. :(

Huh? Why? Nobody's ever complained about the nfl's KC Chiefs. It's not a derogatory name. Why would anyone care and how is that racism? Did I miss something?

They're focusing their limited resources on the Redskns for now--that's just the beginning.


No need to expound. I knew by your sadly failed attempt at sarcasm what you were getting at, long before you spelled it out. You're probably better off just letting it go.

And if you really don't understand the difference between "redskin" and "chief", take a drive to Browning, Montana, go into any indian bar, then offer to buy a round for all the "redskins". Hey, there's nothing wrong with that word right? So it shouldn't be a problem.


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You should hear how I order drinks on MLK and 23rd.


LOL.

Although you've obviously never stepped foot in the 'hood. MLK is parrallel to 23rd.


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Where ever the grocery outlet is? That's technically 23rd and Madison, I think. But, that's where I copped my crack.


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No I'm serious. I heard a spokesperson for one of the NA groups and she was asked about the other Indian-derived names and she said that they were going after the Redskins first because it was the most egregious one, and they have limited resources, but after that they're going after all the rest of them--Chiefs too.

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Where ever the grocery outlet is? That's technically 23rd and Madison, I think. But, that's where I copped my crack.


Do you use the same terms when getting your chicken at Ezelle's up the street? It's a great place to get some chicken, walk across the street to the community center, and get into some gang sh*t.

Ya know what really pisses me off? Ezelle's isn't really Ezelle's anymore. Seriously. The original Ezelle got bought out or something, and now he runs a chicken place up on Lake City Way or something ridiculous like that. Man, when I'm about to stone-cold blast a fool with my gat, I want some authentic Ezelle's fried chicken and those awesome sweet rolls first. Mmmm. Nothing goes with murder and/or crack better than some Ezelle's fried chicken.


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No I'm serious. I heard a spokesperson for one of the NA groups and she was asked about the other Indian-derived names and she said that they were going after the Redskins first because it was the most egregious one, and they have limited resources, but after that they're going after all the rest of them--Chiefs too.


Hey hey, check this out, serious man, hey, so check this out man, hey check this out, so I heard the Seattle Police are all up in people's minds and stuff, they can read your thoughts too. No I'm serious man, hey, check this out, no I'm serious. Hey. Check this out. I'm not just saying that cuz of the yayo, this satellite stuff is real man. Hey, hey, check this out, no seriously, check this out, Hey, do you got a quarter? My car broke down and I need some bus fare to Tacoma. Hey, man,check it out, you gotta be careful, those pigs are watching you man, hey man, no seriously, hey man check this out, no I'm serious.

Oh sorry, my bad, someone was talking about crack and it made me want some so I took a hit. But seriously man, hey, check this out, they really are listening man, no I'm serious, hey, check it out.


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Ha ha. I ain't making it up.
P.S. I used to score crack at 23rd and Union and have known people who worked at Ezell's--I have met both Louis and Ezell, the original owners. They split 20 years ago and one of them spun off "Ezell's Famous Fried Chicken". I have gorged on many hundreds of pieces of Ezell's. Yum yum. ;) In my opinion the end started when they switched to the injected premarinated chicken instead of marinating it manually in tubs.

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It's new news to me and this thread needed bumping :mrgreen:

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The threat was eliminated pretty handily the other day. No political road blocks stand in the way right now.

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Reports are coming out now that Chris Hansen did in fact fund the Sac anti arena group.

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Meh........Nothing to see here..... Move along......

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Well, unless Hansen copped to the NBA that he did this back during the initial ruckus, I'd say he's probably put himself in a position where he'll be blacklisted by the NBA for interfering in one of their public funding schemes. He's out.


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If you're going to do that, make sure you a) don't get caught, b) actually get your referendum going, and c) don't get caught.

Sacramento's arena is never getting built, so honestly it is still the Kings or nothing. I'm past the NBA ever coming back myself, to be honest, so it doesn't matter to me, but this makes sense in theory - as long as you don't get caught.

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Well, unless Hansen copped to the NBA that he did this back during the initial ruckus, I'd say he's probably put himself in a position where he'll be blacklisted by the NBA for interfering in one of their public funding schemes. He's out.

naw, I don't know, If Darth Stern wasn't leaving I'd be more apt to agree..... this (Sonics-Sac) situation was more fixed than Super Bowl XL* (and that's sayin' a lot) its another reason I think they should have gone "scorched earth" on the NBA and sued the living beejesus out of that crap league.

Playing nice, with a bunch of power hungry nimrods and morons usually doesn't pay off, you have to use a language they understand, a curb stomping via lawsuit!

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Well, unless Hansen copped to the NBA that he did this back during the initial ruckus, I'd say he's probably put himself in a position where he'll be blacklisted by the NBA for interfering in one of their public funding schemes. He's out.

naw, I don't know, If Darth Stern wasn't leaving I'd be more apt to agree..... this (Sonics-Sac) situation was more fixed than Super Bowl XL* (and that's sayin' a lot) its another reason I think they should have gone "scorched earth" on the NBA and sued the living beejesus out of that crap league.

Playing nice, with a bunch of power hungry nimrods and morons usually doesn't pay off, you have to use a language they understand, a curb stomping via lawsuit!


Tis what I would have preferred. I get the feeling that the NBA is content with making us the boogey man anyways and not giving us a team, so might as well burn the bridge and ensure they have to find some other way to scare teams into falling in line. And if the NBA really wants to go the "moral" route on this anyways, then screw em. They lost that right a long time ago.

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Well, unless Hansen copped to the NBA that he did this back during the initial ruckus, I'd say he's probably put himself in a position where he'll be blacklisted by the NBA for interfering in one of their public funding schemes. He's out.

If pinksheets says we're in trouble than were in trouble. Don't know how Chris thought this wouldn't catch up to him sooner or later. Smh. :cry:

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Everything I've read or heard so far indicates he and by association we (Seattle) are screwed.


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Everything I've read or heard so far indicates he and by association we (Seattle) are screwed.


If that truly is the case, then screw Stern and the NBA, for all of this. It should have never gotten to this point in the first place, and where they get off having any moral right is beyond psychotic. I'll turn my attention towards the NHL now.

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Everything I've read or heard so far indicates he and by association we (Seattle) are screwed.


If that truly is the case, then screw Stern and the NBA, for all of this. It should have never gotten to this point in the first place, and where they get off having any moral right is beyond psychotic. I'll turn my attention towards the NHL now.



Screw Stern, yes. However this looks way bad and was way wrong on Hansens part. As far as NHL it's probably no NBA arena no NHL team.


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Everything I've read or heard so far indicates he and by association we (Seattle) are screwed.


If that truly is the case, then screw Stern and the NBA, for all of this. It should have never gotten to this point in the first place, and where they get off having any moral right is beyond psychotic. I'll turn my attention towards the NHL now.



Screw Stern, yes. However this looks way bad and was way wrong on Hansens part. As far as NHL it's probably no NBA arena no NHL team.


I really don't know if this screws us or not. I've heard reports say that we're done, and others say that it is nothing. To me it depends on when the timeline was and when it all went down. If they really want to blacklist us for their own business practices, then have at it. But everyone involved has no moral highground on this, especially when they pulled this very crap a couple years ago.

And not necessarily no on the NHL team. The MOU can be changed if the proper NHL crew wants to come in and give it a whirl. Hansen would probably sell off the land and turn over the MOU to let the possible NHL ownership deal with it. Who knows at this point. I'm washing my hands of all of it.

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Well, unless Hansen copped to the NBA that he did this back during the initial ruckus, I'd say he's probably put himself in a position where he'll be blacklisted by the NBA for interfering in one of their public funding schemes. He's out.

If pinksheets says we're in trouble than were in trouble. Don't know how Chris thought this wouldn't catch up to him sooner or later. Smh. :cry:


He didn't say we're in trouble you little girl. He said if the league didn't know we are, we don't know if the league knew or not.

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Honestly, I'm just rooting that someone with money goes to Bellevue or Redmond and strikes a deal to build a hockey-only arena.

The Sonics/NBA were my first sports love, but just like in real life when it didn't work out with my first actual love, I moved on and married someone else (and someone better to boot), I am just fine being a three-sport town and watching college basketball.

I was reading over at Sonics Rising, and these guys are not thinking in a cut-throat manner. The business of sports is dirty. There are a limited number of goods to be acquired. Like with anything else, that means you have to do what you have to do. Don't be apologetic or ashamed about it. Just accept that it didn't work and wait for Sacramento to self-destruct or Milwaukee to self-destruct or whatever.

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Bellevue wants an arena, but they want it made with private money 100

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Bellevue wants an arena, but they want it made with private money 100

Talk about unrealistic.


Yeah, that is just too crazy. I knew they wanted an arena, but if they aren't budging off the 100% private money thing, so much for that happening.

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Reading up on the ESPN article about the recent developments doesn't make things look great for us.

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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/95755 ... ings-arena

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So it was AFTER?

He couldn't just take the L?????

IMO that means there was no expectation of expansion, and all those rumors were B.S.

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I don't see how this screws us anymore than we already were once Stern decided to make up new rules. Like I said, I only wish Hansen had gotten dirtier earlier when all this crap started coming out. Hell, I wish he would have gone the lawsuit route.

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IMO that means there was no expectation of expansion, and all those rumors were B.S.



Yup, that is what it is looking like. Again, a nudge nudge wink wink type of deal with no real promise. Screw that, lawyer up. Might as well burn that bridge once and for all and not be used as leverage.

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I mean regardless, I'm pretty sure there's a lot of ass kissing going on behind the scenes that no one is privy too. I still have faith in Hansen, but now I like him even more (weird huh?) that he's willing to get a little more dirty since its obvious the politics of the NBA are dirty.

Still believe in H/B/N, this changes nothing, if this was as bad as some are making it out to be, this arena deal thing would be folded with the quickness and a billion "I'm sorry's" handed out for wasting our time.

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IMO that means there was no expectation of expansion, and all those rumors were B.S.



Yup, that is what it is looking like. Again, a nudge nudge wink wink type of deal with no real promise. Screw that, lawyer up. Might as well burn that bridge once and for all and not be used as leverage.


I'm not ready for that, yet. I'd like to see what this Silver guy is all about before we burn any bridges, he's known to favor bigger markets instead of raping the smaller ones.

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IMO that means there was no expectation of expansion, and all those rumors were B.S.



Yup, that is what it is looking like. Again, a nudge nudge wink wink type of deal with no real promise. Screw that, lawyer up. Might as well burn that bridge once and for all and not be used as leverage.


I'm not ready for that, yet. I'd like to see what this Silver guy is all about before we burn any bridges, he's known to favor bigger markets instead of raping the smaller ones.


I was more talking about when this crap first went down. Mah bad :lol:

I'm curious to see what happens from here on out to be sure.

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IMO that means there was no expectation of expansion, and all those rumors were B.S.



Yup, that is what it is looking like. Again, a nudge nudge wink wink type of deal with no real promise. Screw that, lawyer up. Might as well burn that bridge once and for all and not be used as leverage.


I'm not ready for that, yet. I'd like to see what this Silver guy is all about before we burn any bridges, he's known to favor bigger markets instead of raping the smaller ones.

I am! Silver is a hand picked Stern stooge, I don't trust him any farther than I can throw his weasel looking @$$! Plus being a new commish he may scare easy when he realizes he is about to get the bejesus sued out of him and his league, probably not a way to start your legacy as a new commish with a anti-trust lawsuit smacking you around. :)

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I have no clue what this means, but for what it's worth...

http://www.sonicsrising.com/2013/9/9/47 ... -yet-again

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Seems like they're just trying to downplay emphasis on the "Sonics".

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I hope that it indicates that Hansen and the city are open to changing the MOU and letting a hockey team play there first, but there is about a 0.001% chance of this actually having anything to do with that, and there's less of a chance that the MOU does get altered for hockey first.

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Id love to see a team back in Seattle that and a NHL franchise im sure it will happen in the next few years.

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