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Apparently Saunders is a stud when he pitches at safeco. .090 era or something crazy like that? Maybe rotate Bevan for road games?

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Here's some fun Mariners stats I just looked at.

Justin Smoak has the 3rd highest batting average on the team. At .237.

Saunders leads the team in runs and SB. After coming off the DL.

Morse leads the team in HRs. Even after spending time on the DL. 2nd place on the list? Jason Bay.

Looking good! At least they are better than the Angels.

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HawkFan72 wrote:
Here's some fun Mariners stats I just looked at.

Justin Smoak has the 3rd highest batting average on the team. At .237.

Saunders leads the team in runs and SB. After coming off the DL.

Morse leads the team in HRs. Even after spending time on the DL. 2nd place on the list? Jason Bay.

Looking good! At least they are better than the Angels.


Where do you get 3rd?
Chavez: .288
Saunders: .286
Seager: .283
Shoppach: .264
Morales: .262
Gutierrez: .259
Bay: .253
Smoak: .237

8th.

If you're talking about players with a comparable # of at-bats, then yes. But I wouldn't discount the other guys based on just that.

And yes, Morse is tied for 8th in home runs after missing time on the DL and slumping because of the injury. Pretty impressive.


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The Outfield wrote:
HawkFan72 wrote:
Here's some fun Mariners stats I just looked at.

Justin Smoak has the 3rd highest batting average on the team. At .237.

Saunders leads the team in runs and SB. After coming off the DL.

Morse leads the team in HRs. Even after spending time on the DL. 2nd place on the list? Jason Bay.

Looking good! At least they are better than the Angels.


Where do you get 3rd?
Chavez: .288
Saunders: .286
Seager: .283
Shoppach: .264
Morales: .262
Gutierrez: .259
Bay: .253
Smoak: .237

8th.

If you're talking about players with a comparable # of at-bats, then yes. But I wouldn't discount the other guys based on just that.

And yes, Morse is tied for 8th in home runs after missing time on the DL and slumping because of the injury. Pretty impressive.


as is 18-19, taking 2 of 3 from a division opponent, splitting with a very good Pirates team. the averages are starting to rise a bit, and the subtle increase in batting has led to more wins.

Still a fine balance with strong pitching, and if one falters then the team may slump again. But lets enjoy this little surge in wins.


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It will be an excellent pitching matchup tomorrow.

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It's nice to see Justin Smoak drawing a lot of walks. His average has crept up a bit, but his OBP is miles better (I think, TBH I haven't looked it up) than it was last year. Bodes well for him.

Michael Saunders' evolution from complete bust to exactly as good as touted has been a blessing. Thankfully we didn't give up on him. I'm hoping we offer our other top prospects the same patience.


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It will be an excellent pitching matchup tomorrow.


Yep. CC Sabathia v. the King. Definitely going to record this game so the wife and I can watch all of it tomorrow.

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It's nice to see Justin Smoak drawing a lot of walks. His average has crept up a bit, but his OBP is miles better (I think, TBH I haven't looked it up) than it was last year. Bodes well for him.

Michael Saunders' evolution from complete bust to exactly as good as touted has been a blessing. Thankfully we didn't give up on him. I'm hoping we offer our other top prospects the same patience.


I am beginning to lean towards Smoak sticking to one side of the plate an go from there. He has been atrocious as a RHB this season.

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The Outfield wrote:
HawkFan72 wrote:
Here's some fun Mariners stats I just looked at.

Justin Smoak has the 3rd highest batting average on the team. At .237.

Saunders leads the team in runs and SB. After coming off the DL.

Morse leads the team in HRs. Even after spending time on the DL. 2nd place on the list? Jason Bay.

Looking good! At least they are better than the Angels.


Where do you get 3rd?
Chavez: .288
Saunders: .286
Seager: .283
Shoppach: .264
Morales: .262
Gutierrez: .259
Bay: .253
Smoak: .237

8th.

If you're talking about players with a comparable # of at-bats, then yes. But I wouldn't discount the other guys based on just that.

And yes, Morse is tied for 8th in home runs after missing time on the DL and slumping because of the injury. Pretty impressive.


I got the ranking from Mariners.com. Guess they only ranked the regular starters. Or just like the Mariners, their web guy sucks.

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Furbush just got screwed by a missed third strike in the middle of the plate and then gave up a two-run-double to the batter right after.

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Felix tweaked his back it would seem. :-(

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Furbush just got screwed by a missed third strike in the middle of the plate and then gave up a two-run-double to the batter right after.



He got screwed two batters in a row.


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Felix tweaked his back it would seem. :-(


It sounds like he'll be back to face the Indians on Sunday. I hope it's nothing serious/reoccurring.


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Furbush just got screwed by a missed third strike in the middle of the plate and then gave up a two-run-double to the batter right after.



He got screwed two batters in a row.

No surprise, they were playing the Yankees. Kinda like the Seahawks playing the Stealers.

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Saw a really sad stat in my paper this morning.......18 times in his career Felix has left a game with a lead only to have the Mariners blow that lead. Wow, just WOW!!

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The Mariners are a .500 team AT BEST. (and I have a hard time seeing it considering the hitting is still pretty dang bad!)
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The Mariners are a .500 team AT BEST. (and I have a hard time seeing it considering the hitting is still pretty dang bad!)
Sorry Mariners fans, its the truth.



And just as you post this, they jump out to a 7-0 start.


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What are you apologizing for? I think most knowledgeable fans think .500 is probably a reasonable approximation of the roster as it stands (at the optimistic end - obviously there are more pessimistic estimates).

If Smoak, Ackley, and Montero play to potential there's a few extra wins in there, if Franklin and Zunino and Hultzen and Walker and Paxton all turn out it's a stellar roster, but, y'know, lots of ifs and all that.


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Nice to see Ackley draw 3 walks. I think he drew one the night before, too. That's a part of his game that's been missing.


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Why are we starting Andino over Ackley? Benching him is not going to help him figure out how to hit major league pitching.

Also Ackley is better than Andino in every way. EVERY. WAY.

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Why are we starting Andino over Ackley? Benching him is not going to help him figure out how to hit major league pitching.

Also Ackley is better than Andino in every way. EVERY. WAY.


Everyday players like Ackley have schedule days of rest. Andino was just filling the slot.


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The Mariners are a .500 team AT BEST. (and I have a hard time seeing it considering the hitting is still pretty dang bad!)
Sorry Mariners fans, its the truth.



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Looks like Noesi is facing his former team today after Harang was scratched due to a stiff back.

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Uncle Si wrote:
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The Mariners are a .500 team AT BEST. (and I have a hard time seeing it considering the hitting is still pretty dang bad!)
Sorry Mariners fans, its the truth.



great story... compelling and rich



While mysteriously lacking anything particularly appealing. Kind of like a store bought frozen lasagna.

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CurryStopstheRuns wrote:
Looks like Noesi is facing his former team today after Harang was scratched due to a stiff back.


I really am not sure who is better or worse at this point lol.


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Why are we starting Andino over Ackley? Benching him is not going to help him figure out how to hit major league pitching.

Also Ackley is better than Andino in every way. EVERY. WAY.


Everyday players like Ackley have schedule days of rest. Andino was just filling the slot.


Hmm, I thought Andino had been replacing Ackley regularly over the last two weeks. Guess I was wrong.

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Smelly McUgly wrote:
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Why are we starting Andino over Ackley? Benching him is not going to help him figure out how to hit major league pitching.

Also Ackley is better than Andino in every way. EVERY. WAY.


Everyday players like Ackley have schedule days of rest. Andino was just filling the slot.


Hmm, I thought Andino had been replacing Ackley regularly over the last two weeks. Guess I was wrong.



You were. In fact, if you thought that, then you are not really a fan of the Mariners in the first place and just came in here to spout off some nonsense. Even a casual follower of the team would know that Andino was spelling Ryan.

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Smelly McUgly wrote:
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Why are we starting Andino over Ackley? Benching him is not going to help him figure out how to hit major league pitching.

Also Ackley is better than Andino in every way. EVERY. WAY.


Everyday players like Ackley have schedule days of rest. Andino was just filling the slot.


Hmm, I thought Andino had been replacing Ackley regularly over the last two weeks. Guess I was wrong.


He was in for Ackley on Sunday and Tuesday. I don't recall seeing him in for Ackley for any other games. But I agree that starting Andino over Ackley would not be a wise move.


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The Mariners are a .500 team AT BEST. (and I have a hard time seeing it considering the hitting is still pretty dang bad!)
Sorry Mariners fans, its the truth.



great story... compelling and rich


Heh, my wife and I, when watching TV with bad acting, will both say "powerful" as smartarse commentary after the poorly acted scene is over.

I like what you did here...

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Why can't we use our designated batter for Ryan, and let the pitchers swing the bat? They're all better at the plate than Ryan, and that way we get his glove without the wet-noodle bat.


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Does anyone know why both starters left before the 5th? Both seemed to be doing ok? Just got home :-/

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3 of 4 from the Angels, 2 of 3 from the Orioles, 2 of 3 from the Blue Jays, a 1/1 split with the Pirates, 2 of 3 from the A's and 2 of 3 from the Yankees.

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Does anyone know why both starters left before the 5th? Both seemed to be doing ok? Just got home :-/



I suspect it was pitch count. Both were in the 80s and another inning and they are over 100 in a long season. Felix is the only one that seems to be allowed to go over 100.

The thing that is concerning is the only ones that are hitting are the old guys. Look at the OBS for the young guys it is low in the 300s. They have to get them hitting


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20-21 and 2nd place. Will we be able to get over that hump? Tough 4 game series against an improved Indians ball club coming up.


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20-21 and 2nd place. Will we be able to get over that hump? Tough 4 game series against an improved Indians ball club coming up.



Should have had the sweep...

have to hand it to the manager.... really moving the lineup around a bit to get more quality at bats. Nice not to see the same 9 in their struggling.

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20-21 and 2nd place. Will we be able to get over that hump? Tough 4 game series against an improved Indians ball club coming up.



Should have had the sweep...

have to hand it to the manager.... really moving the lineup around a bit to get more quality at bats. Nice not to see the same 9 in their struggling.

Great job by Noesi and the bullpen



They have to keep Morse in the five hole. He is something like 9-14 since moving into that role. Ridiculous.

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20-21 and 2nd place. Will we be able to get over that hump? Tough 4 game series against an improved Indians ball club coming up.



Should have had the sweep...

have to hand it to the manager.... really moving the lineup around a bit to get more quality at bats. Nice not to see the same 9 in their struggling.

Great job by Noesi and the bullpen



They have to keep Morse in the five hole. He is something like 9-14 since moving into that role. Ridiculous.


I hope the Sea Beast can keep it up! I really enjoy watching him bat when he's on fire.


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The M's are funny. Nobody on that team consistanly hits (except Seager), but they always have a couple of guys that with swing it well for a couple days in a row. If they could just get a couple more guys (Ack, Saunders, Morse, Morales, Gutierezz) to hit and bring up on more pitcher, i think they can compete. Oh and if we're not gonna bring up Franklin, then we need to trade for a SS. I'm tired of hearing the guys on the radio telling me that Brendon Ryan is saving the team several runs per game with his defense.


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Why the hell do they seem to always struggle in Cleveland no matter how good or bad the Indians are? Now gotta win 2 to just get a split.

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Well, they did get to face our two shittiest pitchers the first couple of games and had to get late game heroics/bullpen collapses to win.

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Well, they did get to face our two shittiest pitchers the first couple of games and had to get late game heroics/bullpen collapses to win.


Yeah. I'm still MASSIVELY impressed with those back-to-back home runs in the top of the 9th by Ibanez and Smoak. That was really cool. Too bad nobody got on before them.


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4 game sweep by the Tribe........Defense and bullpen killed us.



just a sad sad 4 games. should have been no worse than 2-2


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They looked like they were finally going to turn a corner and become a .500 club. Hopefully they can move on from this bizarre series and not let it derail their season now.


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 Post subject: Re: Let's Talk Mariners
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So close to .500 and now 4 games later this. Every time I get my hopes up...............SIGH!!

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