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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:15 pm
  • Nice three shot by Smoak at the top of the ninth. Cano and miller had gotten on base. Blast!
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:16 pm
  • Smoak crushed that ball. It's nice to see him get a double and a homer in the first game.
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:20 pm
  • b0000000000000yah !!!!!!!!
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:21 pm
  • Ackleys up and the bases are juiced. Come on buddy!
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:24 pm
  • LOL Disneyland Angels of Anaheim, Los Angeles, Fresno, Yreka, and All Points In Between.

    Chumps.
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:24 pm
  • Angels closers suckkkkk
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:27 pm
  • Based on my mathematical calculations, the Mariners will have a season record of 162—0.
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:33 pm
  • That kind of looks like a decent baseball team.
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:35 pm
  • Well, at least for one day this season, the Ms have the sole lead of the AL West.

    Baby steps.
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:40 pm
  • It was nice to see Ackley, Smoak, Cano and Miller -aload of guys hitting. Good win.

    Gonna need more of this cause I dont see LoMo or Hart contributing any time soon.
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:43 pm
  • Good first game, and the King survived a couple of mistakes to a couple of good hitters. Its only one game but I liked the way the guys battled. First indication is it looks like Lloyd has these guys minds headed in the right direction. Good start by Smoak and Ackley, hope it continues.......
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:03 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    Tical21 wrote:My goal is to get to the World Series eventually, not win 84 right away. If you honestly think our team is good enough right now to unload all the bullets in our gun, then you trade Franklin. I don't think we're there. Heck, I don't even think we're anywhere close. Our #1 biggest need is young offensive talent. Pick one out of Miller and Franklin and go? Go where? Franklin has as much potential as just about anybody we've got. Not the kind of guy a young team that has been bad for a decade has the luxury of trading for a subpar outfielder or #4 pitcher.


    Our number one biggest need is definitely not young talent. We've had loads of that for the last 4-5 years.

    At some point you have to use that talent on the field or in bringing in other players. Franklin and Miller both play the same position (sort of, Franklins not really a ss)

    You're advocating wasting another of Cano and Felixs prime years sitting on prospects. This team can't do it. Not anymore. Move Franklin to the outfield or package him for what you do need

    Dude, I'm sorry, I've got no beef with you, but I can't let this gem of a post just sit there.

    Did you really just say we've had loads of young talent for the last 4-5 years. Besides MAYBE Seager, and MAYBE Zunino, name one more. Name one more guy that would start on any other lineup in the AL West, or just about any other team out there. Name one. Loads of young talent?

    Pick any team that had a good era recently. Now name any of them that did it without young players that turned into all-stars. Don't worry, I'll wait.

    I'm advocating doing whatever the F is necessary to surround Cano and Felix with a good core of players. And you aren't going to do that with middling free agents, and you definitely aren't going to do that by trading one of your best prospects for a middling outfielder or middle reliever. That is how you STAY bad.

    There is one way to be a prolonged winning team in baseball, and only one way. That is to build a cheap, young, good core. Which we have not come anywhere close to doing. We will not win, will not be a playoff team, will not contend, until we have some good young talent. Talent that is so good, and so young, that they are oblivious to the failure that surrounds this franchise, this lineup, and this "loads of young talent" we have had for the last 4-5 years.

    Let's trade all of the prospects that aren't in the majors right now for mediocre outfielders and relief pitchers. Do that, and we can guarantee that we will be bad for another 13 years.

    We went with prospects and we missed on just about all of them. We missed bad. There is nothing left to do but start over and try to do it again. Corey Hart? Logan Morrison? We just paid a buttload for a freaking closer for a bad team. We just wasted a bunch of money on guys who will prevent young players from getting more shots. We need to keep running more and more young players up there until we eventually find some that stick.

    Who had the best eras you can think of in the last 25 years? The Yanks, Rangers, Mariners, Red Sox, Braves, Giants, Rays, Indians, whoever else you want to name. They all did it one way. They all built a young core, and then added a few pieces to it when it became good enough to contend. If you don't do it that way, you become expensive and old, and only delay the process. If we have ANY young players with any talent whatsoever, like a Nick Franklin, the absolute worst thing you can do is trade that for a player that won't be here by the time you get good enough to contend.

    In a couple of years, if we hit on these young pitchers and the rotation can absolutely carry us, sure, try to get mediocre on offense if you have to, but we are so dang far away from that level, all we would be doing is lessening our chance for eventual success.
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:11 pm
  • minormillikin wrote:Based on my mathematical calculations, the Mariners will have a season record of 162—0.


    And score 1620 runs.
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:46 pm
  • minormillikin wrote:Based on my mathematical calculations, the Mariners will have a season record of 162—0.


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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:55 pm
  • Bitter wrote:
    minormillikin wrote:Based on my mathematical calculations, the Mariners will have a season record of 162—0.


    And score 1620 runs.


    There's a 12 in there, right?

    Loved the late inning rally. The 9th inning was spectacular!
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:46 am
  • Tical....you serious? "gem" huh?

    "In a couple of years, if we hit on these young pitchers and the rotation can absolutely carry us, sure, try to get mediocre on offense if you have to, but we are so dang far away from that level, all we would be doing is lessening our chance for eventual success." so..the Ms should wait on potentially improving the team while Felix and Cano are in their prime?

    I think we're saying the same thing here...outside of the Franklin issue we are both saying build a team mixed with young players, good role players and a superstar or two if you can find them. I'm happy Franklin's on the team but its not hard to see he doesn't have much of a role. He's probably better than Smoak and Ackely but doesn't play OF or 1b. He's not beating out Miller, Cano or Seager at any of those positions. He's our biggest tradeable asset and we have an awful OF. This certainly the FOs fault but I'm not sure how suggesting we trade one young player from a position of strength for another (and where did I say it had to be a mediocre vet?) player to fill a position of need is a bad thing? In fact not doing whatever the team needs to be better in the formative years of our best two players is just irresponsible.

    For the last 4-5 years the Ms have based their entire team building philosophy around Walker-Paxson-Hultzen and Ackley Smoak Seager Miller Zunino Montero Franklin

    All we've heard about are how these guys will change the club when they "arrive"

    Regardless of whether you think they're "talent" or not, the Ms obviously did and outside Montero everyone of them was on the roster to start the 2014 season

    The rest of your post I've no idea what point you're trying to make... The Ms have traded one prospect in Pineda for another in Montero. After that they've held firm to their belief in these core. Franklin was the only player people suggested trading and that was merely because at the moment he's the odd one out.

    I will argue that the teams you list as having eras are not all the same. The Ms want to be a mix of the Yankees/Red Sox/Angels and the Twins/As/Rays/Cards. I'm not sure the Yankees and Sox and Rangers built from a core. I believe they bought the best players, spending 200 mill+ a year to win.

    They've put a lot of faith in these guys. You can disagree whether they should (funny you chose tonight to do so, each one had at least a hit last night) and whether its fair to Cano and Felix. I don't believe I said it was good either way, just that its what the Ms strategy was
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:27 am
  • CALIHAWK1 wrote:Like optomistic Mariner fans on opening day.


    Like an internet troll...
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:50 am
  • Well, I will have to say I like the pitching rotation better than ever. I have high hopes for Elias and Young. Cano has had positive impact already.
    I am optimistic. Lets see how Ramirez does with the lights on.
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Tue Apr 01, 2014 6:49 am
  • GOOD START BOYS!!!
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Tue Apr 01, 2014 8:30 am
  • Great win. We need to just hang in there for the first month or so against these division rivals while we wait to get our starting pitching back.
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:34 pm
  • Mariners looking GOOOOD again tonight too. If Ramirez has figured it out (and he's looked very fine--very fine, indeed), all we need is one of the THREE other young bucks to figure it out and we will have a pretty dangerous rotation.

    If two figure it out, LOOK OUT. :shock:
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:06 pm
  • Mariner offense....Very nice to witness!
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:27 pm
  • Just a damn satisfying couple of wins. Here's hoping for more of this feeling this season.
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:35 pm
  • Ackley, smoak, miller. Could it be? Let me dream for once mariners.
    (I don't think they're going to do much but the optimist in me wants to think they are
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:02 am
  • NICE WIN AGAIN BOYS.
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:16 am
  • Nice. Very nice. I like the rookie pitcher. Elias. Hopefully he doesn't disappoint. Escaped Cuba on a boat. Now living the dream. How cool is that?
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:23 am
  • Tonight we get to see how deep this rotation really is...you can slide erasmo to 3 when iwa comes back. Walker to 4 when he returns. Can Paxson/Elias/young give us wins until they get back than offer back end/long relief after?

    Exciting really
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:43 am
  • Never gonna give you up.

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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Wed Apr 02, 2014 7:06 pm
  • Wonder if the Mariners are actually good this year or the Angels are really bad? Guess we'll find out tomorrow.
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:26 pm
  • On paper this angels team should be real good. Trout, Pujols, Hamilton, Freeze. Last two games the Mariners beat quality pitchers in CJ Wilson and Weaver.
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:34 pm
  • Santiago is a player the Angels traded for. That line up should be dynomite. "Trout, Pujols, Hamilton" there is a bucket of payroll!

    Pujols 240 million

    Trout 144.5 million
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:34 pm
  • James Paxton beasting right now.
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:37 pm
  • Zunino!
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:37 pm
  • Zunino! What a shot!

    MAN this team is looking awesome!!!
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:38 pm
  • Smelly McUgly wrote:Zunino!



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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:39 pm
  • No body wanted to listen. I told you guys this year was going to be different. AL West champs. Book it.
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:41 pm
  • Atradees wrote:
    Smelly McUgly wrote:Zunino!



    :thmusik36:


    Ha! Had never seen those emoticons before!
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:41 pm
  • Calihawk, STFU man!

    :D
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:42 pm
  • This team feels so different then in years past. You get the sense that Cano has had a lot of positive influence on them. And the pitching has been surprisingly good even with all the injures. I am digging Almonte at leadoff. Smoak seems to have found his stroke although I am taking a wait and see approach. Zunino appears to be a stud. A sweep would sure be sweet.
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:45 pm
  • Who the hell is this team? Where are the Mariners? This cannot be them.
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:46 pm
  • Trenchbroom wrote:
    Atradees wrote:
    Smelly McUgly wrote:Zunino!



    :thmusik36:


    Ha! Had never seen those emoticons before!


    The band is my fav!

    To think the Angels are getting blanked with 2 or three times our payroll
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:00 pm
  • Enjoy it for what it is. Pretty rare to see young players contributing so solidly for the Mariners. Lots of fun.
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:08 pm
  • Paxton is around a hundred pitches.
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:12 pm
  • No runs, nine Ks, two walks on 98 pitches in seven innings. Wow.

    He was tossing a nasty curve and his fastball got up to 97.
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:23 pm
  • Smelly McUgly wrote:No runs, nine Ks, two walks on 98 pitches in seven innings. Wow.

    He was tossing a nasty curve and his fastball got up to 97.


    If things break just right, he could be our FOURTH starting pitcher! Can you imagine trading Iwakuma for another BIG bat without our pitching skipping a beat?

    :shock:
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:27 pm
  • If Walker, Elias, and Paxton are all for real, I don't know what I'll do. That seems too good to be true.
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:32 pm
  • Holy SH!T--what the HELL is going on!!
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:33 pm
  • Hahaha, this is the most fun I've had watching the Mariners since 2001.
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:34 pm
  • Trenchbroom wrote:Holy SH!T--what the HELL is going on!!


    It has begun..
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Re: 2014 Seattle Mariners
Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:51 pm
  • Wow... Sweep the team supposedly winning the AL West???? And dominate them??? 26-6 total sweep?!!??!?!?!?!

    Who are these Mariners? Last Mariners team was 95 to win first 3 games but first time we've swept first series in 29 years...

    I love it!

    Seahawks catching the city on fire and now Mariners starting like this...

    I always wondered what it'd be like to be a city who was spoiled and had multiple championship teams.
    I hope we get to find out.
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