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Re: World Cup 2014
Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:49 am
  • Silky Johnson wrote:Thank you Ranaldo

    That's funny you're calling him Ranaldo. Do you know why his father named him Ronaldo?
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Re: World Cup 2014
Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:55 am
  • This is going to sound dumb and unrealistic, but I'm only VERY mildly disappointed...maybe happy, but subdued is a better way to put it. Before the tournament started, if someone had said, "The US will go 1-1-1 and finish second in the group," I would have said I'LL TAKE IT NO TAKESIES BACKSIES before that someone had finished talking.

    However, seeing how the matches actually shook out, I really feel the U.S could have and should have gone 2-0-1 and won the group outright. If they clear a ball at midfield against Portugal and play more aggressively against Germany, I think they pull it off. Is this dumb?

    Don't get me wrong, to me this is an amazing moment for US soccer to earn their way out of a group as good as this one. Portugal even with a hobbled Ronaldo is legit.

    Also, I still think the US had the least-talented squad in the group, but Jurgen Klinsmann is super-awesome. I don't know about the tactics all the time (we were kinda playing for a 0-0 draw against a team with an explosive offense and an iffy defense as far as I could tell), but his choice to go after German-American players and all the cool little stuff he does with yoga and checking up on the sleeping patterns of the players and all the prep is just wonderful. It's no wonder that he's friends with Coach Carroll. They both seem to be willing and able to tear things down and rebuild them in a newer, better way.
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Re: World Cup 2014
Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:03 pm
  • Is the next match for the U.S. on July 1st? I guess the opponent is still TBD but most likely it's Belgium.

    Getting back to Suarez. It seems that Italy is always the victim in these instances. The Zidane incident a few years back (I think it was the 2006 WC) and now this. I wonder if they are instigating things. Zidane did say that the Italian player he head-butted was making rude comments about his mother and sister. There seems to be a common denominator in these incidents and it's Italy's team. However, with that said what Suarez did is wrong and disgusting.
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Re: World Cup 2014
Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:18 pm
  • Smelly you are spot on.

    Also, Belgium is very talented, but quite young. They are not the same team the Germans are. Remember this German squad is full of Champions League players. Belgium has a handful

    We can play with Belgium much in the way we did Portugal. They lack the speed that we struggle with and the tactical and technical abilities of the Germans

    Its a decent matchup for a 16 game as the 2nd place team. Prefer them to Brazil Argentina Colombia France the Dutch.
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Re: World Cup 2014
Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:24 pm
  • Crap, I forgot it was on this morning, I was thinking 9pm tonight.
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Re: World Cup 2014
Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:26 pm
  • hawkfan68 wrote:Is the next match for the U.S. on July 1st? I guess the opponent is still TBD but most likely it's Belgium.

    Getting back to Suarez. It seems that Italy is always the victim in these instances. The Zidane incident a few years back (I think it was the 2006 WC) and now this. I wonder if they are instigating things. Zidane did say that the Italian player he head-butted was making rude comments about his mother and sister. There seems to be a common denominator in these incidents and it's Italy's team. However, with that said what Suarez did is wrong and disgusting.


    Suarez is my favorite player. He's also a madman and needs help.

    Italy can draw the ire of many a player. However, Suarez's madness has no specific trigger outside of desperation.
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Re: World Cup 2014
Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:32 pm
  • Best. Loss. Ever.
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Re: World Cup 2014
Thu Jun 26, 2014 1:31 pm
  • MLOhawks wrote:Crap, I forgot it was on this morning, I was thinking 9pm tonight.


    Could be wrong, but I dont think Brazilians usually play soccer in the middle of the night
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Re: World Cup 2014
Thu Jun 26, 2014 1:46 pm
  • Nog wrote:
    Silky Johnson wrote:Thank you Ranaldo

    That's funny you're calling him Ranaldo. Do you know why his father named him Ronaldo?


    Hilarious and yes.

    I agree Smelly. I hope fans grasp just how improbable it was for us to advance to the 16. This is a great day for USA Soccer even on a day we lost. I think Klinsmann said it perfectly in the post game press conference. We looked intimidated and a bit wore out/tired. The shot by #13 of Germany was just awesome but overall the defense held up well. I was really impressed with Gonzalez and I think a positive thing may have just played out with Cameron having a couple bad plays against Portugal. I just really like his style. He's aggressive, physical, and played with emotion. He had a whiff on a clearance ball in the first 10 which could have been ugly but he was a stud overall. Zusi had a nice shot that was just a bit high and we had a couple opportunities at the end to tie it up. I know the game felt kind of "meh" and I wasn't really enjoying how were playing but I'll keep positive because I've seen us play better than that.

    Watching Belgium right now and they are good, all teams are good at this point but They aren't France, Nedtherlands, Argentina or Brazil. Wow and Belgium just lost Defour on a red card. Speaking of which I'm glad the ref let the guys play today because Jermaine Jones could have easily got a yellow and been out next match.
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Re: World Cup 2014
Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:52 pm

Re: World Cup 2014
Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:44 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    Gatehawk wrote:Suarez, ahahahahaha. 9 match ban and barred from participating in ANY soccer-related activities for 4 months, in other words, looks like it'll be Lambert and Sturridge up top for the first 3-4 months of the EPL season for Liverpool.


    And shaqiri and Sanchez. (there's a transfer window that hasn't opened yet their hotshot)

    Bummer it effects Liverpool..but we dealt with this just fine last time, and will again

    But Suarez brought this on himself, Uruguay and Liverpool. May have brought it on Barcelona as well


    Well, the things I've heard is that Liverpool only gets Sanchez if they give Suarez in return and Shaqiri does look like he's going to Anfield, but I'm not 100% sure he'd be able to help you guys that much. Of course that might be because he's on Bayern and he's never gonna stand out much there.
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Re: World Cup 2014
Thu Jun 26, 2014 7:34 pm
  • Win 1 game out of 3 and advance?

    Does everyone get a trophy too?
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Re: World Cup 2014
Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:19 pm
  • SonicHawk wrote:Win 1 game out of 3 and advance?

    Does everyone get a trophy too?


    Shut up and leave please.
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Re: World Cup 2014
Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:32 pm
  • SonicHawk wrote:Win 1 game out of 3 and advance?

    Does everyone get a trophy too?


    World cup is 32 teams across the globe who have played anywhere from 12 to 20 qualifiers over 2 years

    But yeah... One win and you advance
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Re: World Cup 2014
Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:33 pm
  • Nog wrote:
    jkitsune wrote:Good news is that Germany is easily the best team we'll face for a couple of rounds.

    Really? You guys will face Belgium... They probably have the most talented players in Europe.


    The last time the U.S. faced Belgium, they throttled the American team 4-2. Lukaku tore right through our defense. So the potential for Belgium to be great is there.

    How long has it been since Belgium have played to that level, though? After their qualifier win in Zagreb against Croatia, they went 0-2-1, all in Brussels, against Wales, Colombia, and Japan. Then drew with Ivory Coast in Brussels. They had a nice two goal win at Sweden. Since then, have they really looked close to elite? They were incredibly boring in their final warmup win vs. Tunisia. Give them credit for winning all three group games, but they did so against one of the easiest groups of the tournament.

    They could beat us, but I don't think it will be anything like their 4-2 win in Cleveland.
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Re: World Cup 2014
Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:38 pm
  • SonicHawk wrote:Win 1 game out of 3 and advance?

    Does everyone get a trophy too?



    How does the average sports fan not understand how group play works? Are people really consistently this dense?
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Re: World Cup 2014
Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:41 pm
  • camdawg wrote:
    Nog wrote:
    jkitsune wrote:Good news is that Germany is easily the best team we'll face for a couple of rounds.

    Really? You guys will face Belgium... They probably have the most talented players in Europe.


    The last time the U.S. faced Belgium, they throttled the American team 4-2. Lukaku tore right through our defense. So the potential for Belgium to be great is there.

    How long has it been since Belgium have played to that level, though? After their qualifier win in Zagreb against Croatia, they went 0-2-1, all in Brussels, against Wales, Colombia, and Japan. Then drew with Ivory Coast in Brussels. They had a nice two goal win at Sweden. Since then, have they really looked close to elite? They were incredibly boring in their final warmup win vs. Tunisia. Give them credit for winning all three group games, but they did so against one of the easiest groups of the tournament.

    They could beat us, but I don't think it will be anything like their 4-2 win in Cleveland.



    Belgium have balance issues. They, like Germany, are playing CB's out of position at outside back. There best midfielders are small, and technical sans Fellaini who has trouble staying in the starting 11 for both Club and Country. There striker is an egotistical nutcase (Lukaku) and there depth, while impressive, is incredibly similar to their starting 11. They rarely have players that offer a different skill set. Nearly all of their available changes are Like-For-Like type of deals.

    USA can beat them.

    They play like individuals.
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Re: World Cup 2014
Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:49 pm
  • camdawg wrote:
    Nog wrote:
    jkitsune wrote:Good news is that Germany is easily the best team we'll face for a couple of rounds.

    Really? You guys will face Belgium... They probably have the most talented players in Europe.


    The last time the U.S. faced Belgium, they throttled the American team 4-2. Lukaku tore right through our defense. So the potential for Belgium to be great is there.

    How long has it been since Belgium have played to that level, though? After their qualifier win in Zagreb against Croatia, they went 0-2-1, all in Brussels, against Wales, Colombia, and Japan. Then drew with Ivory Coast in Brussels. They had a nice two goal win at Sweden. Since then, have they really looked close to elite? They were incredibly boring in their final warmup win vs. Tunisia. Give them credit for winning all three group games, but they did so against one of the easiest groups of the tournament.

    They could beat us, but I don't think it will be anything like their 4-2 win in Cleveland.

    Of course, they wouldn't tore you down because it is a top 16 game. Anyway, you mostly talked about friendly games. For Christ sake please, you got to know that Friendly games don't mean anything especially the ones before World Cup. Coaches use them to try new system and players, that's all!

    They have players like Hazard, Felliani or Kompany who are IMO world class. How many players of that calibers the US have in their team? I mean I don't wanna underestimate your team. You guys have showed great team effort so far, but there is gap between your teams (you got to observe that I don't have any bones in this fight).

    Oh and btw, Belgium played a top 16 game against Brazil in 2002, and they got literally robbed as far as I remembered. Afterward, Brazil won the World Cup.

    Smurf wrote:Belgium have balance issues. They, like Germany, are playing CB's out of position at outside back. There best midfielders are small, and technical sans Fellaini who has trouble staying in the starting 11 for both Club and Country. There striker is an egotistical nutcase (Lukaku) and there depth, while impressive, is incredibly similar to their starting 11. They rarely have players that offer a different skill set. Nearly all of their available changes are Like-For-Like type of deals.

    USA can beat them.

    They play like individuals.

    I agree with you. Belgium plays like individuals; however, European teams start their competition from top 16 game. Usually, in World Cups, teams who got the best show-up in the group stage ended up losing. I still remembered the Albiceleste in 98 who got players like Ortega, Veron, Ayala, Crespo, Batigoal and made quite an impression in the group stage. Well, guess what? They were taken down in quarter finals.

    On the other hand, I have the vivid memory of France in 2006. We had the worst group stage ever, and we barely passed them. But, we took down Spain, Brazil and Portugal... All the way to the finals, and we lost in the worst way ever. We deserved to win this world cup, and I personally think that if Zidane didn't screw up we woulda have our second star.
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Re: World Cup 2014
Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:14 pm
  • They have players like Hazard, Felliani or Kompany who are IMO world class. How many players of that calibers the US have in their team? I mean I don't wanna underestimate your team.

    I don't think anyone here is going to argue that the United States is the more talented team, let's face it they aren't. However, the gap in talent isn't that huge and we've seen already in this tournament that having more "world class talent" can't necessarily beat tactically sound groups who play within their system.
    Spain has as much world class talent and anyone, Same with Italy... Where are they?
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Re: World Cup 2014
Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:35 pm
  • knownone wrote:
    They have players like Hazard, Felliani or Kompany who are IMO world class. How many players of that calibers the US have in their team? I mean I don't wanna underestimate your team.

    I don't think anyone here is going to argue that the United States is the more talented team, let's face it they aren't. However, the gap in talent isn't that huge and we've seen already in this tournament that having more "world class talent" can't necessarily beat tactically sound groups who play within their system.
    Spain has as much world class talent and anyone, Same with Italy... Where are they?

    I think they aren't good examples. All right, I have no problem to say Spain has great players, but most of them are getting old, plus they were out of shape coming to this World Cup. They either played more than 50 games either they were injured. I remembered that this killed French national team in 2002 as well.

    Considering Italy, well I personally think that they have a great midfield and a decent defense. However, Balotelli is a real scam. Having no liability as a striker costs them this World Cup IMO.
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Re: World Cup 2014
Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:52 am
  • Fellaini is world class now?

    Hazard is special. Courtois maybe the best keeper in Europe. Lukaku is a difficult player to handle. Kompany and Vertongen experienced and intelligent defenders. Belgium is an attacking team.

    They are not one of the top 6 teams in this tournament. Not when it started. Not now.

    They will be a difficult task. But as far as teams to draw this was a decent one. They're slow in their build up and are susceptible to counters, which the US employ as a tactic quite well.

    Belgium's better, but not drastically.
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Re: World Cup 2014
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Re: World Cup 2014
Fri Jun 27, 2014 8:42 am
  • It's World Cup related, so I'm putting it here. Apparently Turkish club Galatasaray are going to make a run at both Klinsmann and Low to become their new manager once the World Cup is over. David Moyes appears to be their fallback.

    http://www.espnfc.us/turkish-super-lig/ ... op-targets
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Re: World Cup 2014
Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:38 am
  • Klinsmann isn't going anywhere. Just got an extension with US Soccer before world cup started. Signed through 2018 I believe.


    USMNT news:

    Jermaine Jones broke his nose. He'll still play.

    Jozy ran on the side during training for a 3rd strait day. He could be available for Belgium.

    However Vincent Kompany may not be available for Belgium.
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Re: World Cup 2014
Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:41 am
  • Belgium is a tough team and will be a tough match for the USA but not tougher than France, Brazil, Argentina, or The Netherlands would be. So in that sense, it's good to be playing Belgium.
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Re: World Cup 2014
Fri Jun 27, 2014 12:38 pm
  • hawkfan68 wrote:Belgium is a tough team and will be a tough match for the USA but not tougher than France, Brazil, Argentina, or The Netherlands would be. So in that sense, it's good to be playing Belgium.


    Exactly plus I like that we get an extra day of rest. We looked tired against Germany.
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Re: World Cup 2014
Fri Jun 27, 2014 12:57 pm
  • I can't emphasize how great it is we ended up on the right side of the bracket...that left side looks BRUTAL.
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Re: World Cup 2014
Fri Jun 27, 2014 1:00 pm
  • Smurf wrote:Klinsmann isn't going anywhere. Just got an extension with US Soccer before world cup started. Signed through 2018 I believe.



    many coaches have done both...

    but pretty sure its Moyes who will be at Gala
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Re: World Cup 2014
Fri Jun 27, 2014 3:04 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    Smurf wrote:Klinsmann isn't going anywhere. Just got an extension with US Soccer before world cup started. Signed through 2018 I believe.



    many coaches have done both...

    but pretty sure its Moyes who will be at Gala



    Jurgen just seems too committed to succeeding with US Soccer to take on a second project. Just from what I've seen.
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Re: World Cup 2014
Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:33 pm
  • Smurf wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:
    Smurf wrote:Klinsmann isn't going anywhere. Just got an extension with US Soccer before world cup started. Signed through 2018 I believe.



    many coaches have done both...

    but pretty sure its Moyes who will be at Gala



    Jurgen just seems too committed to succeeding with US Soccer to take on a second project. Just from what I've seen.

    Not saying he would just saying it happens. Usually in the nation you're leading though
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Re: World Cup 2014
Fri Jun 27, 2014 5:09 pm
  • camdawg wrote:
    Nog wrote:
    jkitsune wrote:Good news is that Germany is easily the best team we'll face for a couple of rounds.

    Really? You guys will face Belgium... They probably have the most talented players in Europe.


    The last time the U.S. faced Belgium, they throttled the American team 4-2. Lukaku tore right through our defense. So the potential for Belgium to be great is there.

    How long has it been since Belgium have played to that level, though? After their qualifier win in Zagreb against Croatia, they went 0-2-1, all in Brussels, against Wales, Colombia, and Japan. Then drew with Ivory Coast in Brussels. They had a nice two goal win at Sweden. Since then, have they really looked close to elite? They were incredibly boring in their final warmup win vs. Tunisia. Give them credit for winning all three group games, but they did so against one of the easiest groups of the tournament.

    They could beat us, but I don't think it will be anything like their 4-2 win in Cleveland.


    Probably the best way to describe Belgium is that they have tons of talent but very little chemistry and cohesion.
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Re: World Cup 2014
Fri Jun 27, 2014 5:42 pm
  • World Cup 2014 hosts Brazil will take on Chile in a World Cup 2014 round of 16 game on Saturday, June 28.

    The game is set to kick-off at 12:00 p.m. EDT at Estádio Mineirão, Belo Horizonte.

    Here are some odds to win for the match.

    Brazil: 4/6

    Chile: 9/2

    Draw: 31/10

    Past three meetings:
    Brazil 2-1 Chile – International friendly – 20/11/2013
    Brazil 2-2 Chile – International friendly – 25/04/2013
    Brazil 3-0 Chile – South Africa World Cup round of 16 – 28/06/2010


    Colombia and Uruguay will face off in a World Cup 2014 round of 16 game on Saturday, June 28.

    The game is set to kick-off at 4:00 p.m. EDT at Estadio do Maracanã, Rio de Janeiro.

    Here are some odds to win for the match.

    Colombia: 1

    Uruguay: 16/5

    Draw: 5/2

    Past three meetings:
    Uruguay 2-0 Colombia – Brazil World Cup Qualifier – 10/09/2013
    Colombia 4-0 Uruguay – Brazil World Cup Qualifier – 07/09/2012
    Uruguay 3-1 Colombia – South Africa World Cup Qualifier – 09/09/2009
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Re: World Cup 2014
Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:18 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:Fellaini is world class now?

    Hazard is special. Courtois maybe the best keeper in Europe. Lukaku is a difficult player to handle. Kompany and Vertongen experienced and intelligent defenders. Belgium is an attacking team.

    They are not one of the top 6 teams in this tournament. Not when it started. Not now.

    They will be a difficult task. But as far as teams to draw this was a decent one. They're slow in their build up and are susceptible to counters, which the US employ as a tactic quite well.

    Belgium's better, but not drastically.

    I feel like Lukaku is overrated. And yes, I see Felliani like a world class player, but that's my opinion.
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Re: World Cup 2014
Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:34 pm
  • Nog wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:Fellaini is world class now?

    Hazard is special. Courtois maybe the best keeper in Europe. Lukaku is a difficult player to handle. Kompany and Vertongen experienced and intelligent defenders. Belgium is an attacking team.

    They are not one of the top 6 teams in this tournament. Not when it started. Not now.

    They will be a difficult task. But as far as teams to draw this was a decent one. They're slow in their build up and are susceptible to counters, which the US employ as a tactic quite well.

    Belgium's better, but not drastically.

    I feel like Lukaku is overrated. And yes, I see Felliani like a world class player, but that's my opinion.


    Fair enough....I don't see him as a starting cm in at least 9 teams in the PL...even the one he's on. If it was about elbows and cheap shots you've got something. Bradleys better in my opinion

    Lukaku is a good young player. Not sure about overrated. I don't think he's that "rated".. Loanee player whose club had already found his replacement.
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Re: World Cup 2014
Fri Jun 27, 2014 8:02 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:Fair enough....I don't see him as a starting cm in at least 9 teams in the PL...even the one he's on. If it was about elbows and cheap shots you've got something. Bradleys better in my opinion

    Lukaku is a good young player. Not sure about overrated. I don't think he's that "rated".. Loanee player whose club had already found his replacement.

    Well I don't judge him for cheap shots, nor I judge any other players. Well, I started following soccer back in the 90's, and it was a time that cheap shots were legion :mrgreen:

    Concerning Lukaku, in Begium, many people have seen him as a raising star. In France, we tend to say that he is a "tout droit" which means that he is got no talent (and I can tell that we have a plethora of this kinda player).
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Re: World Cup 2014
Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:07 am
  • Nog wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:Fair enough....I don't see him as a starting cm in at least 9 teams in the PL...even the one he's on. If it was about elbows and cheap shots you've got something. Bradleys better in my opinion

    Lukaku is a good young player. Not sure about overrated. I don't think he's that "rated".. Loanee player whose club had already found his replacement.

    Well I don't judge him for cheap shots, nor I judge any other players. Well, I started following soccer back in the 90's, and it was a time that cheap shots were legion :mrgreen:

    Concerning Lukaku, in Begium, many people have seen him as a raising star. In France, we tend to say that he is a "tout droit" which means that he is got no talent (and I can tell that we have a plethora of this kinda player).


    I'm not judging Fallaini on his cheap shots. I find him slow and farctoo clumsy in his overall play.

    Interesting on Lukaku. He was one of the Prems rising stars last year. Bendtner was once though too and he's certainly tout droit
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Re: World Cup 2014
Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:39 am
  • I really like watching Neymar Jr. He's SO FAST. He just looks like he's moving a couple seconds ahead of everyone else all the time.
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Re: World Cup 2014
Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:48 am
  • Chile's certainly giving Brazil all they can handle so far.
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Re: World Cup 2014
Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:51 am
  • That Chilean goal was off an awful turnover (giveaway? Am I using the right wording?) in Brazil's own end. After that, though, they started pressuring Brazil's defense with a bit more regularity.

    This game has rocked so far. I think it's locked in my desire to definitely keep following the Sounders closely and to try and start following the English Premier League when it starts back up.
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Re: World Cup 2014
Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:00 am
  • Smelly McUgly wrote:That Chilean goal was off an awful turnover (giveaway? Am I using the right wording?) in Brazil's own end. After that, though, they started pressuring Brazil's defense with a bit more regularity.

    This game has rocked so far. I think it's locked in my desire to definitely keep following the Sounders closely and to try and start following the English Premier League when it starts back up.

    As long as you don't start rooting for Manchester United, it's all good. :)
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Re: World Cup 2014
Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:02 am
  • SeatownJay wrote:
    Smelly McUgly wrote:That Chilean goal was off an awful turnover (giveaway? Am I using the right wording?) in Brazil's own end. After that, though, they started pressuring Brazil's defense with a bit more regularity.

    This game has rocked so far. I think it's locked in my desire to definitely keep following the Sounders closely and to try and start following the English Premier League when it starts back up.

    As long as you don't start rooting for Manchester United, it's all good. :)


    I'll just watch and pick a team that I like, but I won't pick a team that is already good. I'm a Seattle sports fan, and thus I find that it is more rewarding when you root for a team that has to go through fire to finally win a championship. :D
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Re: World Cup 2014
Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:04 am
  • Smelly McUgly wrote:That Chilean goal was off an awful turnover (giveaway? Am I using the right wording?) in Brazil's own end. After that, though, they started pressuring Brazil's defense with a bit more regularity.

    This game has rocked so far. I think it's locked in my desire to definitely keep following the Sounders closely and to try and start following the English Premier League when it starts back up.



    Run the soccer Guantlet with me today. Brazil-Chile on now, Uruguay-Colombia at noon, and Sounders-DCUnited at 4.

    We got soccer running all day long!
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Re: World Cup 2014
Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:16 am
  • That was a handball.

    Once again Howard Webb is the best Englishman at the world cup.
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Re: World Cup 2014
Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:17 am
  • Definitely catching the Sounders game here or at a bar.

    Was that a handball? This is a dumb novice question because I thought it had to hit your lower forearm or hand to be a handball. If it hits your upper arm and you move your arm forward, would that be a handball? If so, I think it was.

    Is the yellow because the official thought it wasn't accidental? Sorry for the novice questions.
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Re: World Cup 2014
Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:21 am
  • Smelly McUgly wrote:Definitely catching the Sounders game here or at a bar.

    Was that a handball? This is a dumb novice question because I thought it had to hit your lower forearm or hand to be a handball. If it hits your upper arm and you move your arm forward, would that be a handball? If so, I think it was.

    Is the yellow because the official thought it wasn't accidental? Sorry for the novice questions.



    Handball is anything below the shoulder. Whole arm can't be used.

    Yellow was given because Howard Webb (the ref) felt Hulk intentionally brought the ball down in the box with his hand (arm).

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    Cant do that. Too much arm, not enough chest.

    Honestly if his elbow wasn't bent he MIGHT have gotten away with it.
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Re: World Cup 2014
Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:21 am
  • Smelly McUgly wrote:
    SeatownJay wrote:
    Smelly McUgly wrote:That Chilean goal was off an awful turnover (giveaway? Am I using the right wording?) in Brazil's own end. After that, though, they started pressuring Brazil's defense with a bit more regularity.

    This game has rocked so far. I think it's locked in my desire to definitely keep following the Sounders closely and to try and start following the English Premier League when it starts back up.

    As long as you don't start rooting for Manchester United, it's all good. :)


    I'll just watch and pick a team that I like, but I won't pick a team that is already good. I'm a Seattle sports fan, and thus I find that it is more rewarding when you root for a team that has to go through fire to finally win a championship. :D

    When I started followng the EPL a few years ago I found myself rooting for Manchester City because of a player they had, Carlos Tevez. I just enjoyed watching him play. Then he left the club in a dispute and I found myself drawn to a scrappy club that had just won promotion to the EPL in Queens Park Rangers. QPR also had a talented but controversial player in Adel Taarabt. When QPR were relegated I returned to Man City but it wasn't the same. Now that QPR are back in the EPL they're my #1 team.
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Re: World Cup 2014
Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:24 am
  • Great explanation, and that shot definitely shows the ref got it right. Thanks!
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Re: World Cup 2014
Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:29 am
  • SeatownJay wrote:
    Smelly McUgly wrote:
    SeatownJay wrote:
    Smelly McUgly wrote:That Chilean goal was off an awful turnover (giveaway? Am I using the right wording?) in Brazil's own end. After that, though, they started pressuring Brazil's defense with a bit more regularity.

    This game has rocked so far. I think it's locked in my desire to definitely keep following the Sounders closely and to try and start following the English Premier League when it starts back up.

    As long as you don't start rooting for Manchester United, it's all good. :)


    I'll just watch and pick a team that I like, but I won't pick a team that is already good. I'm a Seattle sports fan, and thus I find that it is more rewarding when you root for a team that has to go through fire to finally win a championship. :D

    When I started followng the EPL a few years ago I found myself rooting for Manchester City because of a player they had, Carlos Tevez. I just enjoyed watching him play. Then he left the club in a dispute and I found myself drawn to a scrappy club that had just won promotion to the EPL in Queens Park Rangers. QPR also had a talented but controversial player in Adel Taarabt. When QPR were relegated I returned to Man City but it wasn't the same. Now that QPR are back in the EPL they're my #1 team.



    Same deal there. Started watching Man United because of Rooney...then Ronaldo, Tevez, Scholes, Giggs, Evra, Vidic...just enjoyed watching them play. As players retire and leave I still root for United, but dont find myself quite as into them as I once was. Peaches will say I'm a fair weather fan or whatever, Just not watching every game like I use to. Speaking of Peaches...due to he, and Si, and Suarez always talking about Liverpool I find myself watching their damn games...and enjoying it...it makes me sick.

    You guys are bastards.
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Re: World Cup 2014
Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:30 am
  • Smelly McUgly wrote:Great explanation, and that shot definitely shows the ref got it right. Thanks!



    Glad I could help. :)
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Re: World Cup 2014
Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:30 am
  • One question I've always had is why is the UK allowed to have four separate national teams?
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