Foghawk wrote:

pmedic920 wrote:
Grabbed myself a 6er on the way home today.

I'll fill y'all in later :{)

Shouldn't we be waiting for L80's review first?

pmedic920 wrote:

Sarlacc83 wrote:
Sometimes I'll scroll through the beer thread in between trips to RateBeer, just to see what non-beer geeks are drinking.

Here's the deal for me.

I'm not a beer geek or snob, fact is, I know very little about BEER.

My main alcoholic beverage for many years was AMERICAN whiskey. MakersMark was/is my affordable, easy to find "go to".

I've drank a shit load of beer in my day but I've never really enjoyed drinking it, it was just something to drink, it was an easy, cheap buzz.

A few years ago, I set out to find out what all the "stir" was about. I started buying a 6 pack of this or that, just to see what I'd find. In the process, I found that I liked (really enjoyed) some of the IPAs and American/ Farmhouse ales. I started with what I could find at the same place I bought my Copenhagen or groceries. As I got more interested I moved onto some of the liquor stores or specialty shops, I started talking to folks and looking stuff up.

I've really grown to like the the IPAs but they really do vary so much. I find one that I like for every 5-6 that I wouldn't drink again.

I'd actually at this point love to try my hand at brewing some of my own, I just don't have the time to devote. Maybe some day I will.

I've had a few stouts that I liked but only for an occasional change of pace, or after a meal as a finisher. I feel the same way about the sours, or porters.

I don't like anything that tastes like it was artificiality flavored. An example would be, Ballast Points Grapefruit Sculpin vs Shiners RubyRed. One seems legit, the other flavored.


My intention in starting this tread was to share some of the beers that I found to be enjoyable. I don't expect everyone, or even anyone to agree with me, I just want to share.

I really wish we all could get together and share what we like in person.

I look at beer kinda like I do the Seahawks, something that can unite us in spite of our differences.

GoHawks
GoBeer
:{)

Sarlacc83 wrote:

pmedic920 wrote:

Sarlacc83 wrote:
Sometimes I'll scroll through the beer thread in between trips to RateBeer, just to see what non-beer geeks are drinking.

Here's the deal for me.

I'm not a beer geek or snob, fact is, I know very little about BEER.

My main alcoholic beverage for many years was AMERICAN whiskey. MakersMark was/is my affordable, easy to find "go to".

I've drank a shit load of beer in my day but I've never really enjoyed drinking it, it was just something to drink, it was an easy, cheap buzz.

A few years ago, I set out to find out what all the "stir" was about. I started buying a 6 pack of this or that, just to see what I'd find. In the process, I found that I liked (really enjoyed) some of the IPAs and American/ Farmhouse ales. I started with what I could find at the same place I bought my Copenhagen or groceries. As I got more interested I moved onto some of the liquor stores or specialty shops, I started talking to folks and looking stuff up.

I've really grown to like the the IPAs but they really do vary so much. I find one that I like for every 5-6 that I wouldn't drink again.

I'd actually at this point love to try my hand at brewing some of my own, I just don't have the time to devote. Maybe some day I will.

I've had a few stouts that I liked but only for an occasional change of pace, or after a meal as a finisher. I feel the same way about the sours, or porters.

I don't like anything that tastes like it was artificiality flavored. An example would be, Ballast Points Grapefruit Sculpin vs Shiners RubyRed. One seems legit, the other flavored.


My intention in starting this tread was to share some of the beers that I found to be enjoyable. I don't expect everyone, or even anyone to agree with me, I just want to share.

I really wish we all could get together and share what we like in person.

I look at beer kinda like I do the Seahawks, something that can unite us in spite of our differences.

GoHawks
GoBeer
:{)

Oh, wow. You totally read that in the exact opposite way I meant it. (I can see how you inferred it, though). I meant that I was getting out of an insular sub-culture to see what the wider world is enjoying; not that I was looking down on you all from on high.

Sarlacc83 wrote:Porter survived the trip fine. Hops weren't a necessity against spoilage. Just because brewers were told that it was, doesn't actually make it true.

Sarlacc83 wrote:So, your reasons are wrong. You don't have to like IPA. I don't care. I used to dislike it, too. But stop spreading your discontent under myths and half-truths. Just dislike it without this faux-intellectual rigor.

RolandDeschain wrote:

Sarlacc83 wrote:Porter survived the trip fine. Hops weren't a necessity against spoilage. Just because brewers were told that it was, doesn't actually make it true.

I literally ALREADY said this in my previous post. It doesn't matter if it's true or not - your own boy on that site is saying brewers were told to put extra hops in for voyages to warm climates. Increased hoppiness due to perceived necessity. Doesn't matter if it actually helped or not, that's irrelevant.

Sarlacc83 wrote:So, your reasons are wrong. You don't have to like IPA. I don't care. I used to dislike it, too. But stop spreading your discontent under myths and half-truths. Just dislike it without this faux-intellectual rigor.

That whole site is laying false the claim that a particular PERSON invented IPAs to survive the voyage to India. That's fine. It's irrelevant. I said earlier that I'm not a fan of excessively hoppy beers to begin with and when I found out that increasing hops was due to necessity (PERCEIVED to be, it doesn't matter if it's true or not), it made me dislike it even more.

Also, he keeps using "PAs" (pale ales) interchangeably with IPAs. He should probably fix that. They are not synonyms of each other.

One more time for the cheap seats, your boy says "We know that by the 1760s brewers were being advised that it was “absolutely necessary” to add extra hops to beer if it was being sent to warmer climes."

I don't CARE about any other part of the history - so the Brits didn't start the rumor or process of it. Fine. Though, his own source of it demonstrates the fallacy of that as you'll see in a second from the book he uses as his source. He also says we don't know who did, but points to the reference from the 1760s of knowing it was being told to brewers that they should increase the hops for beer going to warm climates, and amusingly enough, his source for that is a book titled "Every Man His Own Brewer, Or, A Compendium of the English Brewery," by Samuel Child.

So if that's where it started, then it was started by the British after all, and for the expressed purpose of going to warm climates. I guess the part you're arguing specifically is for it being to India instead of warm climates?

Can you explain which part you do have a problem with? I don't have to repeat myself again about the one and only part I care about as far as my own opinion of it goes, do I?

IPAs were only invented so they'd last long enough to get to India from Britain via ship without going bad or being as subject to contaminants. It was a compromise born of necessity, not some amazing new discovery

XxXdragonXxX wrote:If youre a stout drinker like me, hit up the Odd Otter brewery in Tacoma. They have I believe 4 stouts on tap right now. Was there last night, unfortunstely I was only able to try 1 of them (Comrade Otters imperial chocolate stout) but it was very good.

Sarlacc83 wrote:I have no idea what you're going on about at this point. You claimed:

IPAs were only invented so they'd last long enough to get to India from Britain via ship without going bad or being as subject to contaminants. It was a compromise born of necessity, not some amazing new discovery

Which is demonstrably wrong, as already shown. And you said this to both talk down IPA and to rationalize your dislike. And your sloppy thinking in this regard is now leading you to fail in reading comprehension, as now you've talked down a beer historian with your smarmy comment that "Also, he keeps using "PAs" (pale ales) interchangeably with IPAs. He should probably fix that. They are not synonyms of each other."

But he does know the difference; it's you who've failed to grasp the concept here with binary thinking about PA and IPA in its historical context. (Hint: He wrote: We know that no “pale ale as prepared for the Indian market” seems to have actually been called India Pale Ale (specifically “East India Pale Ale”) until 1835.) This isn't some fine line delineation, which further ruins your argument about the invention of IPA. It was a natural evolution and some branding distinction -- almost a 100 years after the fact.

You aren't reading this stuff and ingesting it. Which is sad, because it's both interesting and enlightening. Instead, you've made an error and continue to double down on it -- now shifting the goalposts and employing sarcasm in lieu of understanding. As long as that happens, I'm not going to engage in this 'conversation'.

Sox-n-Hawks wrote:But which one first????? Ahhh the PNW, the land of good beer.

Foghawk wrote:

Sox-n-Hawks wrote:But which one first????? Ahhh the PNW, the land of good beer.

Well? You have a review on these yet?

Sox-n-Hawks wrote:

Foghawk wrote:

Sox-n-Hawks wrote:But which one first????? Ahhh the PNW, the land of good beer.

Well? You have a review on these yet?

Matryoshka-
Does not taste like a 10% beer. Very nutty stout with a distinct bourbon finish. You can tell it's been barrel aged, excellent beer and worth picking up if you see one.

Love Squirts- Overly flavored swill with a hint of raspberry. Would not buy again, with a name like that? it was worth a try!

Foghawk wrote:

Sox-n-Hawks wrote:

Foghawk wrote:

Sox-n-Hawks wrote:But which one first????? Ahhh the PNW, the land of good beer.

Well? You have a review on these yet?

Matryoshka-
Does not taste like a 10% beer. Very nutty stout with a distinct bourbon finish. You can tell it's been barrel aged, excellent beer and worth picking up if you see one.

Love Squirts- Overly flavored swill with a hint of raspberry. Would not buy again, with a name like that? it was worth a try!

Thanks, there certainly are a lot quality barrel aged Imperials out there these days.

Not a fan of Raspberry anything so I wouldn't be inclined to try that one either way.

Sox-n-Hawks wrote:

XxXdragonXxX wrote:If youre a stout drinker like me, hit up the Odd Otter brewery in Tacoma. They have I believe 4 stouts on tap right now. Was there last night, unfortunstely I was only able to try 1 of them (Comrade Otters imperial chocolate stout) but it was very good.

It's Stout Month at Ft. George down here in Astoria too.

TriCHawk wrote:

Sox-n-Hawks wrote:

XxXdragonXxX wrote:If youre a stout drinker like me, hit up the Odd Otter brewery in Tacoma. They have I believe 4 stouts on tap right now. Was there last night, unfortunstely I was only able to try 1 of them (Comrade Otters imperial chocolate stout) but it was very good.

It's Stout Month at Ft. George down here in Astoria too.

I'm gonna have to look for the Matryoshka... I haven't seen that here before. I have a couple of cans of Cavatica in the fridge. It's my wife's favorite. Their Quick Wit is a good summer beer, too. That got me through staining my fence this year.

pmedic920 wrote:This one is a "local" to me, I doubt that many of you will ever see it, if you do, give it a try.
This brew is a "solid" on my top 20 list.


http://brazosvalleybrewery.com

fenderbender123 wrote:I've tried pretty much every beer I can find here. Here's a few thoughts:

* More twist-offs please. Seems like 95% of micro-breweries don't have twist-offs. I know I know...hand in my man card. But seriously, I find it annoying having to get a bottle opener or use other methods to open a beer. Especially when I'm driving.

* Too many IPAs. Maybe it's where I live, but I swear like 30-40% of microbrewery beer I see in stores is some kind of IPA. IPAs are alright, but I'm a bit tired of them now.

* While microbrew stuff tends to be considered the best, the big domestic companies are coming out with some decent stuff too. For example, Busch Signature Copper Lager is actually a decent cheap beer. Try it sometime. You'll think "not too bad...tasty."

Foghawk wrote:Finally got around to drinking a few of the Moose Drool ales I posted above. Not bad, pretty much what I expected, a malty caramel flavor with a little more carbonation than expected. It's a brown ale so no real hoppiness going on with it. I will likely keep a few of these in the fridge along with some Fat Tires for something light to drink.

Also drank a can of the Ten Fiddy. Honestly, I was a little disappointed. It just didn't have a wow factor for me when I drank it like a few of the other high end barrel aged imperial stouts have. I did actually drink it straight out of the can, which is odd for me, so the next one I'll definitely frost up a mug for. I have 3 more cans (bought the 4 pack) to reevaluate my thoughts on this one.

pmedic920 wrote:Don't judge me :{)


I had one of these at 7AM the other day.


It was enjoyable but I needed a nap afterwards.
Was my first "clown shoes" brew. I will be trying some of their others.



BTW, I get off work at 6 AM.

CHEERS

Largent80 wrote:Today...Trying Lagunitas Sucks.

It DOESN'T suck.

It is in fact delicious, which is scary at 8% ABV.

https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/220/74986/

pmedic920 wrote:Was not impressed 3.5/10

Would drink again, would not pay for it if other options were available.

pmedic920 wrote:Bud light???

You're killing me Smalls.

vin.couve12 wrote:Peanut Butter Porter from Wild Ride Brew in Redmond, OR and Pear Farmhouse Ale from White Salmon, WA. Both pretty good and a little different.

I've almost given up on your average bottled Seattle and Portland brews. I'm liking the smaller town stuff now. I find they're taking more risks, in some cases, and therefor hitting on some unique gems. We don't need the 276,000th IPA that tastes like the other IPAs.

The other part of that is how much money big beer has invested in our "microbrews" depending on the company. We still need to support our local brews and that often requires actually going to the good ones off the tap. You can usually find one in your neighborhood.