Vetamur wrote:Aros wrote:Take even 6 months out of your life to seriously, I mean SERIOUSLY study the evidence that is available. From radar returns, military pilots reports, high ranking government and military testimony through the last 80 years or so and look me in the face and tell me there's nothing to this. Come on man.
I did. I think we had this conversation once. You and I have hashed this out here and in person so I will just sort of restate it..obviously Im a skeptic..but as I ve said before..I WANT to be wrong. I just dont think I am. I would LOVE tomorrow to wake up and see the headlines "Aliens land on the moon!"
Because of that.. a few years ago, I got into going into UFO online world. I went in thinking..maybe there is stuff ..REAL evidence.. and its just not getting the press it should.
I spent a couple years..found a cool hangout..the only place online other than .net Ive ever spent much time. And met some cool people (and, because its the internet some less than cool people). And I just never found anything that was evidence of alien life. And on the contrary I found the movement rife with dishonesty, wishful thinking, and similar techniques that evolution deniers use... There were a few things I had to look up.. And a few things I said "Yep..not sure what that was". But "dont know what that was" doesnt equal "clearly intelligent life from other planets are visiting us..but mostly going unseen...but not completely".
I know you have your reasons for believing, Aros. I really enjoyed hearing your sort of deeper theory on it when we were in San Diego, and the UFO proponent movement would be a lot better off with people like you being heard from more. I do, at the end of the day though, put your belief into "faith"..and that I respect.
As far as UFOs go..Im a sad skeptic.
I'm the same as you. I want to believe, and I'm not arrogant enough to believe the Earth is the only populated planet in the universe, but I need hard core evidence. The eyewitnesses get me. Sure, there are some attention seekers who want the recognition for seeing something so they'll make stuff up, but there's also the elderly farmer who has had cattle mutilated and wouldn't dare tell a lie if his life depended on it. You have clergy, teachers, police officers firemen, sweet little grandmas and grandpas, and even presidents who have witnessed UFOs. Those are the accounts that get me. Another thing is how fast technology is advancing. Maybe it's the advent of the internet which makes sharing ideas and working together easier, but tech has seemed to have rapidly developed in the past 20 years. In 2006, I couldn't get enough of Asimo (Honda's humanoid robot) and now it seems out dated when I look at the robots who are based on cheetahs, dogs, horses and such. We also have humanoid robots in Detroit and MIT that can repair themselves, and nano technology is rapidly advancing as well. Something has had to happen to quickly advance as mankind did in a short time. But I need evidence before I say it was alien tech.
Of course, YMMV.