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Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (SPOILERS)
Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:37 am
  • I'm really looking forward to this movie. This latest trailer release has only magnified my excitement ten fold. So much nostalgia in it. Phenomenal, this one looks. I didn't really like The Force Awakens. Hopefully this one lives up to the hype.

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Re: Rouge One: A Star Wars Story
Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:50 am
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Re: Rouge One: A Star Wars Story
Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:14 am
  • Good Lord this looks good! Am hopeful that we can *finally* get a good Star Wars story...
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Re: Rouge One: A Star Wars Story
Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:41 am
  • WAY more excited about this one. I actually loved Force Awakens the first time that I saw it. Every viewing after that didn't do it for me.
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Re: Rouge One: A Star Wars Story
Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:10 pm
  • OkieHawk wrote:Are you talking about the makeup line? :twisted:


    :lol: ...Might want to spell the tagline properly.
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Re: Rouge One: A Star Wars Story
Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:23 pm
  • I mean, it looks like the coolest Star Wars movie of all time. Hopefully it's not all stupid and shit. Either way I'll be first in line on opening day, come hell or high water.
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Re: Rouge One: A Star Wars Story
Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:26 pm
  • Laloosh wrote:WAY more excited about this one. I actually loved Force Awakens the first time that I saw it. Every viewing after that didn't do it for me.


    I was SO close to liking Force Awakens. The characters were good, the dialogue was good, the acting was good! Everything was good except... THE STORY!

    I mean, maybe if the previous Star Wars movies didn't have a masked villain, and a shadowy emperor guy, and a doomsday weapon, and an orphan on a desert planet, and a cantina, and a father-son conflict, etc etc etc.

    I mean, there was just nothing original in the whole damn movie that I could see.

    I just don't understand why JJ Abrams couldn't get half a dozen writers in a room for a week to come up with good ideas on a plotline. I mean, if you're going to be unoriginal, writers are cranking out hundreds of stories every year. Surely there was some grain of interesting plotline that could have been gleaned from them that we haven't seen in the Star Wars universe?

    Actually, let me take a step back. The idea of humanizing a Stormtrooper was a very good idea. I like that. Although the original 'stormtroopers' were clones, it makes sense that they would transition into being real people after the Clone Wars. In fact, I believe there were references in some book or movie to Imperial Academies where Stormtroopers and Imperial pilots are trained.

    So this was interesting, though the whole First Order crap was totally unnecessary. There are tons of books out there that address what happens to the Republic after the last movie. The Thrawn Trilogy was a fairly good series of books on this. I'm not saying you would have to hold 100% true to those, but it would have been much more realistic than this First Order nonsense and would offer some degree of continuity.

    My big problem is that Hollywood these days is just so unoriginal. Everything is a remake, or a sequel, or a soft reboot. It's driving me crazy.

    Still, I'm glad George Lucas is not involved in Star Wars in any way, shape or form. That guy turned this franchise into a veritable trainwreck. At least Disney got 90% there with their first attempt...
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Re: Rouge One: A Star Wars Story
Thu Oct 13, 2016 4:42 pm
  • I get all criticisms of TFA but I think they made the safe play and I totally understand and appreciate why they did that. And remember it's just the first act of a three act story arc. Lots more story to tell here.
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Re: Rouge One: A Star Wars Story
Thu Oct 13, 2016 5:16 pm
  • The fact is, TFA was about regaining the fan's trust. Now we have a lot more faith in Lucasfilm.
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Re: Rouge One: A Star Wars Story
Thu Oct 13, 2016 6:53 pm
  • Largent80 wrote:
    OkieHawk wrote:Are you talking about the makeup line? :twisted:


    :lol: ...Might want to spell the tagline properly.


    Whoops. Haha. Thanks guys.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:37 am
  • The only worry I have with Rogue One is.. even just in the trailer the forced message of "rebel" and "rebellion".. yes..we get it..its a rebellion..you dont need to remind so often.

    Re: TFA.. I get the "theres nothing original to it!" thought, but like others said, it was mostly mean to reconnect with the audience and tell them we are making proper movies again.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:13 pm
  • hoping its a bit better than TFA. I think I overhyped the film but realize it is a process and Star Wars new hope was of similar slow story line. The next one will have to be an empire strikes back quality. I think its cool how the franchise is branching out. I will watch this for sure.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:38 pm
  • Very excited for Rogue One. When Vader comes out of the smoke and strides towards the guy... chills.

    The one thing that sticks out to me is how diverse the cast is. There's men, women, droids, aliens and the humans aren't just white people.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:20 pm
  • I assume it takes place at the same time as episode IV? If so, I imagine the main characters are the Bothans that are mentioned during the debriefing before the first assault on the Death Star. Which then makes me believe that the characters in this movie are not going to live to see a second installment. Also, just because I love these remakes:
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:41 pm
  • HAWKAMANIA wrote:I assume it takes place at the same time as episode IV? If so, I imagine the main characters are the Bothans that are mentioned during the debriefing before the first assault on the Death Star. Which then makes me believe that the characters in this movie are not going to live to see a second installment. Also, just because I love these remakes:


    The Bothans were mentioned in Return of the Jedi, not A New Hope. Rogue One takes place in the weeks leading up to A New Hope.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:59 pm
  • Ah, never mind then lol
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:11 pm
  • In the Pre-Nuke of the Expanded Universe, it was Kyle Katarn that got the Death Star plans in the Dark Forces video game.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:07 pm
  • HAWKAMANIA wrote:Ah, never mind then lol


    But other than that you're pretty much spot on.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Sat Oct 15, 2016 3:07 pm
  • sammyc521 wrote:In the Pre-Nuke of the Expanded Universe, it was Kyle Katarn that got the Death Star plans in the Dark Forces video game.


    I loved that game. But there is so much expanded universe content that Disney pretty much has to overwrite some of it to make a movie. I've always wanted more Rebellion vs Empire stories, so I'm very excited about Rogue One.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:12 pm
  • New spot that aired last night on ABC.



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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:38 pm
  • Looks like SW V, it would be nice if they came up with something original.

    I wonder when they will figure out they can emal or SMS the plans for the new Star destroyer.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:29 pm
  • I'm keeping my expectations tempered after being let down considerably by Episode VII.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:04 pm
  • Maulbert wrote:New spot that aired last night on ABC.



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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Sat Nov 26, 2016 6:37 pm
  • RolandDeschain wrote:I'm keeping my expectations tempered after being let down considerably by Episode VII.


    I dropped my expectations to deep lows after watching that other one. I do have all the other ones in DVD and 4,5, and 6 in VHS.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Sun Nov 27, 2016 7:49 pm
  • tickets go on sale in a little over an hour btw fyi iirc
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:10 pm
  • Two weeks away! Y'all got your tickets yet?
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:53 pm
  • Zebulon Dak wrote:Two weeks away! Y'all got your tickets yet?


    Got six tix for the night of the 15th. Stoked.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:12 pm
  • the recent advertising push, along with a few of the cameo rumors/confirmations have really sparked my enthusiasm.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:34 pm
  • Zebulon Dak wrote:the recent advertising push, along with a few of the cameo rumors/confirmations have really sparked my enthusiasm.


    I've only watched the short trailers that have released and haven't looked into any leaks/rumors for months. I decided after reading some rumors on Rogue One and Episode VIII that I needed to stop spoiling bits from this franchise.

    I think if the big reveal in this movie was that they were getting the plans for the original Deathstar, that would have been really cool and nerds everywhere would have gone apeshit. I guess I just wish they didn't let everyone know from the get go what the main plot was going to be about. And since I already know it's going to be rebels going after the plans for the Deathstar, I want to be as unsuspecting as possible for the rest of the story that we haven't seen yet.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:05 pm
  • I feel you. I really wish they wouldn't give so much away but I have a feeling we're gonna get a surprise or two in this movie that most of us don't see coming.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Thu Dec 01, 2016 7:13 pm
  • Vetamur wrote:The only worry I have with Rogue One is.. even just in the trailer the forced message of "rebel" and "rebellion".. yes..we get it..its a rebellion..you dont need to remind so often.

    Re: TFA.. I get the "theres nothing original to it!" thought, but like others said, it was mostly mean to reconnect with the audience and tell them we are making proper movies again.


    Yeah, and nothing could be worse than the Phantom Menace. :mrgreen:
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:01 pm
  • My prediction.. Rae is the Darth Vader Poser's sister.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:38 pm
  • Bobblehead wrote:My prediction.. Rae is the Darth Vader Poser's sister.


    Yeah that's a lot of people's prediction. My prediction: she's a Palpatine.
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Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:40 pm
  • Of course that probably doesn't have anything to do with this movie.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Sun Dec 04, 2016 1:56 pm
  • Just stay off Reddit until after you see the movie. I had Han's death spoiled for me there. :evil: :229031_banghead: :cry:
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Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:14 am
  • MontanaHawk05 wrote:Just stay off Reddit until after you see the movie. I had Han's death spoiled for me there. :evil: :229031_banghead: :cry:


    Whoa, spoiler alert! Some of us haven't watched that movie yet!

    But in all seriousness, Han's death was spoiled on multiple message boards for me.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Thu Dec 15, 2016 11:25 pm
  • Meh. It was better than Episode VII, but that's not saying much. It was alright. Go in with low expectations and you'll enjoy it more.

    I don't understand how Disney can make two mediocre Star Wars films while making hit after hit after hit in the Marvel universe.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Fri Dec 16, 2016 2:14 am
  • Just saw it tonight and it was GREAT, a very enjoyable SW entertainment. It definitely is better than JJ Abrams latest. It's right up there with ESB in terms of feel. The future of the series is in good hands here with Gareth Edwards and team.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:47 am
  • Really enjoyed it. Finally got to see the Rebellion not be completely one-dimensional and felt the desperation of their situation. The three main characters were developed just enough to make you care and/or empathize with them (Jyn, Cassian & Krennic), the hologram scene was very well done, they took new directions in a Star Wars universe where tropes are seemingly the rule. The scenes with Vader... good lord. It was everything I wanted it to be.

    Great movie. I actually feel it makes ANH a stronger movie too. Definitely going to see it in theaters again soon.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Fri Dec 16, 2016 10:12 am
  • RolandDeschain wrote:Meh. It was better than Episode VII, but that's not saying much. It was alright. Go in with low expectations and you'll enjoy it more.

    I don't understand how Disney can make two mediocre Star Wars films while making hit after hit after hit in the Marvel universe.


    You didn't like Force Awakens?

    I think people expect too much from a spaghetti western in space. If the movie's fun, what else is there?
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Fri Dec 16, 2016 10:21 am
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    RolandDeschain wrote:Meh. It was better than Episode VII, but that's not saying much. It was alright. Go in with low expectations and you'll enjoy it more.

    I don't understand how Disney can make two mediocre Star Wars films while making hit after hit after hit in the Marvel universe.


    You didn't like Force Awakens?

    I think people expect too much from a spaghetti western in space. If the movie's fun, what else is there?


    Just about every movie or show I've seen Roland comment on lately can be summated by the first word of this post, "meh." Sorry bro, but your tastes have been proving quite alternative and borderline hipster. Seems you can't enjoy any movie that people are hyped up for.

    And hit after hit after hit in the Marvel universe? Are we talking box-office hits or critical hits? I WILL NOT pay to watch another shite super hero rehash where "omg they're making them all come together so the Avengers is going to be so siiiiiccckkkk" and using these overdone franchises as cash cows is the ultimate goal.

    Deadpool - Cool movie
    Dr. Strange - Cool movie

    Everything else? Completely uninspiring save a few moments in each movie.

    Each Star Wars movie from TFA on will be individually more successful than any of those Marvel movies. I'll eat my hat if they aren't.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Fri Dec 16, 2016 10:27 am
  • JGfromtheNW wrote:
    Sgt. Largent wrote:
    RolandDeschain wrote:Meh. It was better than Episode VII, but that's not saying much. It was alright. Go in with low expectations and you'll enjoy it more.

    I don't understand how Disney can make two mediocre Star Wars films while making hit after hit after hit in the Marvel universe.


    You didn't like Force Awakens?

    I think people expect too much from a spaghetti western in space. If the movie's fun, what else is there?


    Just about every movie or show I've seen Roland comment on lately can be summated by the first word of this post, "meh." Sorry bro, but your tastes have been proving quite alternative and borderline hipster. Seems you can't enjoy any movie that people are hyped up for.

    And hit after hit after hit in the Marvel universe? Are we talking box-office hits or critical hits? I WILL NOT pay to watch another shite super hero rehash where "omg they're making them all come together so the Avengers is going to be so siiiiiccckkkk" and using these overdone franchises as cash cows is the ultimate goal.

    Deadpool - Cool movie
    Dr. Strange - Cool movie

    Everything else? Completely uninspiring save a few moments in each movie.

    Each Star Wars movie from TFA on will be individually more successful than any of those Marvel movies. I'll eat my hat if they aren't.


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    I've been saying this about the stupid Avenger conglomerate advertising machines for no other purpose than to promote the next Avenger superheroes spin off franchise forever.

    I'd throw the Guardians in there as well with Deadpool and Dr. Strange.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Fri Dec 16, 2016 10:28 am
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    JGfromtheNW wrote:
    Sgt. Largent wrote:
    RolandDeschain wrote:Meh. It was better than Episode VII, but that's not saying much. It was alright. Go in with low expectations and you'll enjoy it more.

    I don't understand how Disney can make two mediocre Star Wars films while making hit after hit after hit in the Marvel universe.


    You didn't like Force Awakens?

    I think people expect too much from a spaghetti western in space. If the movie's fun, what else is there?


    Just about every movie or show I've seen Roland comment on lately can be summated by the first word of this post, "meh." Sorry bro, but your tastes have been proving quite alternative and borderline hipster. Seems you can't enjoy any movie that people are hyped up for.

    And hit after hit after hit in the Marvel universe? Are we talking box-office hits or critical hits? I WILL NOT pay to watch another shite super hero rehash where "omg they're making them all come together so the Avengers is going to be so siiiiiccckkkk" and using these overdone franchises as cash cows is the ultimate goal.

    Deadpool - Cool movie
    Dr. Strange - Cool movie

    Everything else? Completely uninspiring save a few moments in each movie.

    Each Star Wars movie from TFA on will be individually more successful than any of those Marvel movies. I'll eat my hat if they aren't.


    I love you, make love to me or lose me forever.

    I've been saying this about the stupid Avenger conglomerate advertising machines for no other purpose than to promote the next Avenger superheroes spin off franchise forever.

    I'd throw the Guardians in there as well with Deadpool and Dr. Strange.


    Hahaha I actually came back to add Guardians, but you quoted my post already :lol:
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:56 pm
  • Why do people worry about a cash cow if the movie is entertaining?

    How much money do y'all spend on football?

    THAT is the biggest cash cow of them all.

    Being hyper critical of movies is silly, don't go if you are going to nitpick everything. Is that fun?
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Fri Dec 16, 2016 2:01 pm
  • Largent80 wrote:Why do people worry about a cash cow if the movie is entertaining?


    I think like with most art, some people snub their noses up at a movie that's too "commercial." Star Wars car ads, Star Wars oranges, Star Wars Taco Bell wraps, etc.

    IMO the only thing that matters with a movie is did it set out to do accomplish what they intended? Sure seems like the two most recent Star Wars movies have done just that. Fun compelling movies with some awesome special effects, set pieces, action and story that connects to the Star Wars universe.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Fri Dec 16, 2016 2:54 pm
  • I need to watch it again, but I really enjoyed it. I put so much speculation and build up into these movies that the fist viewing is always so surreal and incomplete. I'll know for sure how I feel about it after the 3rd watch.

    But I agree pretty much with Sgt and JG. Thoroughly exciting, riveting, gripping & enjoyable film. I won't go too deep into details of my opinion at this point, but my only major qualm on first viewing was that the music and lack of crawl at the beginning instantly made it feel not like Star Wars to me. I took me out of it right off the bat (To be fair, the soundtrack to The Force Awakens took me a little while to warm up to as well). But once it got going after that, they absolutely nailed the feel of the galaxy at that time period; the reigning Empire, unease and unrest, rebels struggling to maintain any hope of success, etc. Excellent pacing, story progression was great, and the overall character development was surprisingly successful, considering all the new faces they had to make us care about.

    At this point I'd still have to say I like The Force Awakens a little bit better, just because I'm an absolute sucker for the Skywalker Saga, but I am very much looking forward to seeing how this one holds up next to the rest over time.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:10 pm
  • I was surprised that it didn't have an opening crawl, but I didn't mind it all that much. Much in the way TFA was reestablishing the Star Wars universe, laying the foundations for future movies and earning the trust of the fans back, this movie was set out to be something completely different from the main saga and it did it numerous times. (LIGHT SPOILERS) No John Williams, no opening crawl, cutting off the "I've got a bad feeling about this" line, everyone dying, etc. I know there are more instances of this, but recalling all of that off one viewing is tough.

    My two biggest gripes were A) the musical score and B) the CGI faces. The models for the CGI were great, but the animations looked straight out of a current gen video game. There were times where the music really did nail the moment, but some if felt rushed and even the uses of well known themes like Imperial March or Main Title were seemingly awkward. Could have been better, could have been worse.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:19 pm
  • RolandDeschain wrote:Meh. It was better than Episode VII, but that's not saying much. It was alright. Go in with low expectations and you'll enjoy it more.

    I don't understand how Disney can make two mediocre Star Wars films while making hit after hit after hit in the Marvel universe.



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