Dont really want to tell people how much they should or shouldnt like a movie, but I guess I will say I see quite a bit of missing the point-isms and sort of historical blindness.
When you claim people like the movies or over rate the movies because they arent the prequels, Id agree and disagree but mostly say you arent "getting it". For reasons too deep to go into here, Star Wars means a lot to a lot of people and , yes, a lot of those people (myself included) were fairly outraged by the prequels and feel the damage the whole Star Wars story, universe, whatever. So when TFA came out it was a huge relief that the movie felt like Star Wars again. I dont know anyone who "over rates" the movie, that is , claims the movie is a truly great movie on its own merits. Literally NO ONE.. on this board Zeb is probably the biggest Star Wars fan and Im probably top 10, but as far as I can tell neither of us consider it great film making in the artistic sense. Its not bad at all. If you were a film school student youd probably give it a 7. When people say they love it, and its great..what they mean is it makes them FEEL great. And that is impossible to call "over rating". How the movie makes people feel is legit. For me, for 2 hours Im inside my 11 year old selfs imagination.. right when I was growing out of toys but would still play with them occsaionally off on my own and I constantly made my own stories about what happened to Luke, Han, Leia after and between the movies. I got to explore more of the galaxy that my mind had been to for hours..except actualized. How can anyone say I am over rating the movie when thats the effect it had on me?
As far as those saying things along the lines of "well, lets be honest, Star Wars and Return of the Jedi werent that great either, they were pretty good".. that is seeing things from the long telescope of 2017. In 1977 Star Wars was utterly revolutionary. It did things that had never been done before. If youre hung up on Lukes whining or stilted dialog then you just dont get it or simply dont remember what 1977 was like. The special effects for the first time made spaceships and blasters seem real..Chewbacca looks real.. the concepts, borrowed from Eastern religions and earlier sci fi were repackaged to feel legit.. The Force..hyperspace.."droids?", 5 year old me thought, too shy to ask anyone what the difference was between a robot and a droid was. In 2017 maybe Star Wars is just ok.. but in 1977 it was a whole new type of movie..and its influence on culture and even vocabulary and idioms shows that. Its also not "high art", but despite that even high browed film students in 1977 would give it a 9 or 10 for its revolutionary influence.
As far as Rogue One goes.. its brilliant in what its meant to do. Its not perfect, but one thing that is exceptional is that its a prequel that doesnt contradict what its a prequel to, one thing the prequels did in nearly every other scene. I dont really get the idea that there is no character development as both main characters have a clear arc, and director Krennic is actually quite nuanced.. Its meant to be an action movie that shows you how the Death Star plans were stolen.. which it does.. giving us thrills along the way and introducing interesting worlds and fascinating characters along the way..hallmarks of Star Wars. A sign its a success? Quotes from it are already showing up in popular parlance and K-2SO is proving incredibly popular.
"I am one with the Force, and the Force is with me"
Anyway..my 2 cents of nerd-ism!
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