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Las Vegas Shooting
Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:56 am
  • Not sure if allowed but 50 ppl are dead in LV after the worst shooting spree in US history. One suspect from the 34th floor of the mandalay bay. Just absolutely crazy....
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:16 am
  • So damn sad. My sister is staying at MGM and they have been in lockdown all night. When it first happened there were all kinds of rumors of shooters all over the strip. I felt so damn helpless and afraid. Thankfully they are ok. This has not been an easy night. Can't sleep. Absolutely sickening. Thoughts and prayers with everyone involved.
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:12 am
  • Pussy ass beeotchmade bastard. At least he didn't get captured and brought a Whopper.
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:23 am
  • Terrible news. Condolences to those who lost heir lives last night.
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:27 am
  • Cyrus12 wrote:Not sure if allowed but 50 ppl are dead in LV after the worst shooting spree in US history. One suspect from the 34th floor of the mandalay bay. Just absolutely crazy....


    Definitely allowed..it's a big news story and this is the proper forum. Everyone is keeping it on topic and not political which is perfectly acceptable.

    Sucks to hear about this. Was feeling pretty good this morning until I heard this news.
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:23 am
  • hgwellz12 wrote:Pussy ass beeotchmade bastard. At least he didn't get captured and brought a Whopper.

    I'd prefer he was captured (and I don't care what he would be given to eat) because I'd like to know why he did it. Now we'll never know.
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:39 am
  • Two of our grandkids and their families and a nephew and his family are vacationing there but thank goodness they are safe. My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families.
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:53 pm
  • Cowards and guns are a bad combo. My thoughts go out to those victims and their families.
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:32 pm
  • Yet another psychopath coward with guns. I am at a loss for words anymore.
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:47 pm
  • Some posts already removed. This isn't about the gun debate it's about a news story. Let's not get the thread locked
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:58 pm
  • This guy was armed to the teeth. Their had to be some "red flags" missed by those that knew the coward.
    This was a complex planned attack that someone just doesn't do on a last minute whim.
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:05 pm
  • Sports Hernia wrote:This guy was armed to the teeth. Their had to be some "red flags" missed by those that knew the coward.
    This was a complex planned attack that someone just doesn't do on a last minute whim.



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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:54 am
  • KiwiHawk wrote:
    hgwellz12 wrote:Pussy ass beeotchmade bastard. At least he didn't get captured and brought a Whopper.

    I'd prefer he was captured (and I don't care what he would be given to eat) because I'd like to know why he did it. Now we'll never know.


    I get what you're saying, but I doubt it would make any sense anyway. It's not like there's a reasonable explanation for something like this. This guy was clearly a batshit insane evil psychopath.
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:28 am
  • kidhawk wrote:Some posts already removed. This isn't about the gun debate it's about a news story. Let's not get the thread locked


    The news is what pisses me off about these types of tragedies.

    Why do we even report or do news pieces on the gunman? Don't even say the piece of crap's name out loud, not even once. All if does is give every other lunatic a reason to want the same attention if they kill people.

    But no, we have to spend weeks interviewing neighbors, co-workers, family members and in depth national stories about these human pieces of garbage.

    Not saying this would stop these sorts of tragedies, but it wouldn't give other crazy people a reason to say "that's what I want, I want 60 Minutes doing a feature story on me. I want people to know my name."
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:13 am
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    kidhawk wrote:Some posts already removed. This isn't about the gun debate it's about a news story. Let's not get the thread locked


    The news is what pisses me off about these types of tragedies.

    Why do we even report or do news pieces on the gunman? Don't even say the piece of crap's name out loud, not even once. All if does is give every other lunatic a reason to want the same attention if they kill people.

    But no, we have to spend weeks interviewing neighbors, co-workers, family members and in depth national stories about these human pieces of garbage.

    Not saying this would stop these sorts of tragedies, but it wouldn't give other crazy people a reason to say "that's what I want, I want 60 Minutes doing a feature story on me. I want people to know my name."


    The interview with the gunman's brother was disgusting. I absolutely loathe American media during tragedies. "Your brother just murdered 50+ people, tell us why! How do you feel?"

    I understand it's a huge news topic, people want to know what happened, and will be reported on regardless - I just wish they were left nameless.
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:03 am
  • A terrible tragedy for sure, though I have a very hard time believing this man acted alone. We haven't heard the whole story here, not by a longshot. I don't have a lot of confidence we will, either, since the FBI is leading the charge on the investigation.
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:11 am
  • SmokinHawk wrote:A terrible tragedy for sure, though I have a very hard time believing this man acted alone. We haven't heard the whole story here, not by a longshot. I don't have a lot of confidence we will, either, since the FBI is leading the charge on the investigation.


    I agree, and I just read that the gunman wired 100k to the Philippines before he decided to be a coward, so it'll be interesting to see what that was all about.
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:26 am
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    SmokinHawk wrote:A terrible tragedy for sure, though I have a very hard time believing this man acted alone. We haven't heard the whole story here, not by a longshot. I don't have a lot of confidence we will, either, since the FBI is leading the charge on the investigation.


    I agree, and I just read that the gunman wired 100k to the Philippines before he decided to be a coward, so it'll be interesting to see what that was all about.


    That wire transfer is suspicious as hell. Philippines is a hotbed for terrorism right now, so this development lends some credence to the statement made by Daesh/ISIS that this guy was a potentially radicalized recent convert.
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:41 am
  • Sports Hernia wrote:This guy was armed to the teeth. Their had to be some "red flags" missed by those that knew the coward.
    This was a complex planned attack that someone just doesn't do on a last minute whim.

    Yeah, something like 19 guns 2 of them altered to be fully automatic, thousands of rounds of ammunition. Chemicals to make explosives in his car and 23 other guns at his house. 58 dead and over 500 wounded. Just incredible how someone could pull that off in today's environment.
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:06 pm
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    kidhawk wrote:Some posts already removed. This isn't about the gun debate it's about a news story. Let's not get the thread locked


    The news is what pisses me off about these types of tragedies.

    Why do we even report or do news pieces on the gunman? Don't even say the piece of crap's name out loud, not even once. All if does is give every other lunatic a reason to want the same attention if they kill people.

    But no, we have to spend weeks interviewing neighbors, co-workers, family members and in depth national stories about these human pieces of garbage.

    Not saying this would stop these sorts of tragedies, but it wouldn't give other crazy people a reason to say "that's what I want, I want 60 Minutes doing a feature story on me. I want people to know my name."

    Outstanding point. :2thumbs: I hate it when they say the suspects name. Just refer to him as "the coward" because that's all these troglodytes are.
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:07 pm
  • SmokinHawk wrote:
    Sgt. Largent wrote:
    SmokinHawk wrote:A terrible tragedy for sure, though I have a very hard time believing this man acted alone. We haven't heard the whole story here, not by a longshot. I don't have a lot of confidence we will, either, since the FBI is leading the charge on the investigation.


    I agree, and I just read that the gunman wired 100k to the Philippines before he decided to be a coward, so it'll be interesting to see what that was all about.


    That wire transfer is suspicious as hell. Philippines is a hotbed for terrorism right now, so this development lends some credence to the statement made by Daesh/ISIS that this guy was a potentially radicalized recent convert.

    Or his wife/girlfriend is over there. Old angry (supposedly rich) white guys with tons of guns usually don't convert to Islam.
    No doubt he was radicalized though.
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:56 pm
  • 1) His girlfriend is from the Phillipines and is currently traveling out of the USA.
    2) There is some radical Islamic organization (can't recall which one) that is claiming this guy converted several months ago but this info has not been confirmed by authorities.
    3) This guy was a professional gambler among other things and supposedly was a multi millionaire.
    4) The attack was thoroughly planned. He even had cameras placed in strategic locations where he could keep an eye on responding police.
    5) I agree with the press coverage. Don't give these bastards what they want which is their 15 minutes of fame. However, I don't see how the press can cover the story without doing so.

    It is sad that we, as Americans, can no longer go out and about without having to worry about this shit. I know that I check for exits and keep a wary eye out for signs of trouble no matter where I/my family goes.
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:33 am
  • I've spent way too much time over the past couple days analyzing the details of this incident, and I am mostly convinced that this guy did not act alone. In fact, I suspect he may not have been the shooter. I'm going to try to posit a scenario without getting overly political.

    I believe that Stephen Paddock was an undercover federal agent engaged in a clandestine gun deal entrapment scheme not unlike the Fast & Furious scandal that dogged the Obama admin a few years ago. I believe this was supposed to be a transaction between an FBI/BATFE/Intel asset and a domestic jihadi group, but his cover was blown, he was killed, and the guns were used to commit this atrocity. This is why I think so:

    1.) Stephen Paddock was supposedly a multimillionaire real estate mogul, but nothing in his past explains where that wealth would come from. The IRS and postal service were not high paying occupations in the 1970s and 1980s.

    2.) Stephen Paddock was a private pilot, and as of yesterday, per the FAA website, one of his aircraft was registered to Volant, LLC, an organization that proudly states its working relationships with defense and intelligence agencies. The records of this aircraft have since disappeared from the FAA database (literally overnight), but can still be found on FlightAware linked here. This evidence links Paddock to a known spook outfit by way of his aircraft registration.

    3.) Twenty-three guns were found in his hotel room. Twenty-three. I submit that someone intending to commit a mass murder is not going to bring 23 guns with them. A duly committed criminal here would probably bring a few extras, just in case, but I just can't see 23 guns being a necessary part of the planning. You bring 23 guns to a sale, but not as a lone wolf seeking to cause a mass casualty event.

    4.) His girlfriend has two social security numbers. Why? I believe she too was a federal agent working under deep cover and one of these SSNs is linked to her cover identity. Her complicity in this event is quite apparent but she returned to the country and did not go on the lam, likely because she knew she would be protected from criminal charges.

    5.) Soundtracks on the footage clearly indicate multiple guns being fired at the time. It's possible he could have been operating two guns simultaneously, but that would grossly impact accuracy (the distance was quite long), and would also result in the shooter being literally pelted with scalding hot cartridges being ejected from the rifle on his left shoulder unless one was built for a lefty. I find it very unlikely he was alone.

    6.) Paddock placed cameras inside and outside of his room. Why? I suspect this was to capture the identity of the would-be buyers. If the footage from these cameras is never released, consider it a tacit admission that he was not the shooter.

    7.) A room service receipt from some time before the incident reveals two occupants in the room. It's hardly conclusive, but it's yet another breadcrumb pointing in that direction.

    8.) There is now a claim he was a "professional gambler". Anyone who knows anything about gambling knows that the house always wins in the end, especially with the games he liked to play (high limit video slots). The rub here is that the longer you play slots, the likelihood of it being profitable infinitely approaches zero as the house will always take more than it pays out. I find it most likely that he used the casinos as a means to launder the dark money generated by his clandestine arms deals.

    9.) Paddock's father was apparently on the FBI's 10 most wanted after a prolific career as a bank robber. He even managed to escape prison and live off the grid for 10 years. This lends a great deal of "street cred" to a guy if you want to make him an asset in a clandestine operation. Think Leo DiCaprio's character in the Scorsese film "The Departed".

    10.) Paddock worked for the IRS, potentially giving him the investigative inroads to wind up working in a clandestine program.

    11.) The interview with Paddock's "brother" was extremely suspicious. His language and posture was defensive, and his words in no way reflected the sort of emotion I would expect from someone whose brother just committed the worst shooting atrocity since Wounded Knee.

    12.) When asked for details in the ensuing press event, the Clark County Sheriff said "If I say I don't know I may know but I'm just not telling you right now".

    13.) Fraternal Order of Police is said to have sent a warning to its members that more suspects are currently at large and being pursued. In their communique they specifically cited Seattle as an area of particular concern, so be aware folks. I would appreciate it if anyone affiliated with the FOP could corroborate this statement as I've only seen a screenshot of their alleged communique.

    14.) 4chan's infamous /pol/ board received multiple anonymous visits from alleged LVPD and first responders. The LVPD posts were particularly interesting as they claimed Paddock was not the shooter, that the FBI showed up with gag orders, and the sheriff would make specific statements in a presser that had not yet happened. Those statements were made, thus corroborating some of these claims while preserving the identity of the poster.

    15.) Video evidence shows gunshots being fired from lower floors.

    16.) All booking information for Stephen Paddock has been deleted from the hotel database. I really doubt they would do this in a criminal case. This is the sort of thing that can only be compelled through national security action or a complicit relationship between the hotel and the feds or criminal organization with whom they are in cahoots.

    17.) Numerous questionable financial transactions have been discovered, with Paddock wiring money to all sorts of places, many of which heavily involved in the illegal arms trade.

    18.) Marilou Danley's job as a high stakes hostess granted her unique access to the sorts of people who could be involved in big money criminal enterprises. She was overheard speaking to family in Tagalog, something along the lines of "my conscience is clear". That doesn't strike me as the sort of thing a person would say if they had no knowledge of the situation, but it also doesn't strike me as the kind of thing a guilty person would say either. It strikes me as the sort of thing a fed would say when they were "just doing their job".
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:58 am
  • Some of what you wrote may very well be true while some of it may be crazy talk.
    Without being political I'd just be careful of what sites you get your info from. 4chans reputation for accuracy is not good and some are even worse than that. While I believe we are not being told the full story in this situation, I would take rumors from questionable sources, especially ones with political agendas (on both sides) with a grain of salt.

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Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:35 am
  • Sports Hernia wrote:Some of what you wrote may very well be true while some of it may be crazy talk.
    Without being political I'd just be careful of what sites you get your info from. 4chans reputation for accuracy is not good and some are even worse than that. While I believe we are not being told the full story in this situation, I would take rumors from questionable sources, especially ones with political agendas (on both sides) with a grain of salt.

    There are misinformation agents everywhere.


    We definitely don't have the whole story. As for the accuracy of /pol/, I'd say they get it right more often than not. The reason I am so inclined to believe what I do is there's unfortunately a lot of precedent.
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:59 pm
  • 4chan/pol, huh?

    Thanks, SmokingHawk, for proving at least ONE of my assumptions to be correct. :2thumbs: :|
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:42 am
  • Why is there little coverage/interest/investigation in to the report of the Latino woman who approached the crowd 45min before the shooting and told people they were all going to die? There is also video/audio that seems to indicate at least two different sources of gunfire. I understand that there may be echos that confuse people, but in eh videos I have seen you hear close gunfire (and possibly the echo) and then muffled gunfire that seems to be from another source.

    Multi-shooter? Was the original plan for more shooters (hence the number guns) and why perhaps at least one person (if report is correct) knew about the shooting and taunted?
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:47 am
  • Bullmeister wrote:Why is there little coverage/interest/investigation in to the report of the Latino woman who approached the crowd 45min before the shooting and told people they were all going to die? There is also video/audio that seems to indicate at least two different sources of gunfire. I understand that there may be echos that confuse people, but in eh videos I have seen you hear close gunfire (and possibly the echo) and then muffled gunfire that seems to be from another source.

    Multi-shooter? Was the original plan for more shooters (hence the number guns) and why perhaps at least one person (if report is correct) knew about the shooting and taunted?



    Somewhere I saw a collection of facebook posts claiming there was gunfire in Caesars Palace and other Casinos.

    I agree that this shooting makes all kinds of no sense at all.
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:32 pm
  • Bullmeister wrote:Why is there little coverage/interest/investigation in to the report of the Latino woman who approached the crowd 45min before the shooting and told people they were all going to die? There is also video/audio that seems to indicate at least two different sources of gunfire. I understand that there may be echos that confuse people, but in eh videos I have seen you hear close gunfire (and possibly the echo) and then muffled gunfire that seems to be from another source.

    Multi-shooter? Was the original plan for more shooters (hence the number guns) and why perhaps at least one person (if report is correct) knew about the shooting and taunted?


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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:01 pm
  • Whenever these things happen, there's all kinds of people who leap onto social media in an attempt to gain attention by reporting potentially related side events (e.g. Caesar's palace) that didn't happen. Be careful of that.
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:24 pm
  • Anyone see the vid of the drunk guy holding a beer standing and fingering the shooter?? Crazy!
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:40 pm
  • 1.) Stephen Paddock was supposedly a multimillionaire real estate mogul, but nothing in his past explains where that wealth would come from. The IRS and postal service were not high paying occupations in the 1970s and 1980s.

    A plausible explanation would be that his father robbed banks and that Paddock was able to launder some of that money successfully without attracting interest from the IRS. Once you have seed money, making money in real estate is pretty damn easy. In the past 10 years I've made $500,000 in equity on my house, and I'm not even trying to play the real estate market.
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:18 pm
  • I just watched the brother's 2nd interview...something is smelling HELLA fishy...and it ain't the yacht. The alphabet boys seem to have screwed up royally and we likely will NEVER get a complete explanation that makes sense to anyone with basic level critical thinking skills. I wish I didn't feel this way. I wanted to...believe the OG 'lone wolf' angle. I really did. But....nah. Unh unh :|
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Sat Oct 07, 2017 2:46 am
  • hgwellz12 wrote:I just watched the brother's 2nd interview...something is smelling HELLA fishy...and it ain't the yacht. The alphabet boys seem to have screwed up royally and we likely will NEVER get a complete explanation that makes sense to anyone with basic level critical thinking skills. I wish I didn't feel this way. I wanted to...believe the OG 'lone wolf' angle. I really did. But....nah. Unh unh :|

    Yep, people like the coward (see shooter) always leave red flags. There is something the family, girlfriend, and law enforcement isn't coming clean about.

    It Wouldn't surprise me at one time if he secretly worked for the CIA, FBI, or lesser known government groups at one time.

    His meticulous planning of this horrific event is where I'd be focused on if I was investigating.
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  • Cyrus12 wrote:Anyone see the vid of the drunk guy holding a beer standing and fingering the shooter?? Crazy!


    There's video from inside the hotel room?
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Sun Oct 08, 2017 12:05 pm
  • I find it odd how 33k people at a concert, all I'm sure have cell phones, in a city with the most amount of cameras, security and facial recognition software, yet almost no new video footage has been made public after the initial evening. I'm not one for conspiracy type theories, but something doesn't jive here.
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Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:09 pm
  • Hawk_Nation wrote:I find it odd how 33k people at a concert, all I'm sure have cell phones, in a city with the most amount of cameras, security and facial recognition software, yet almost no new video footage has been made public after the initial evening. I'm not one for conspiracy type theories, but something doesn't jive here.

    Particularly since every concert you go to nowadays, you see a ton of people holding up their cell phones recording it.
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:28 pm
  • Seanhawk wrote:
    Cyrus12 wrote:Anyone see the vid of the drunk guy holding a beer standing and fingering the shooter?? Crazy!


    There's video from inside the hotel room?

    No...he was standing in the crowd, and everyone else was laying down.
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:23 pm
  • Jazzhawk wrote:
    Seanhawk wrote:
    Cyrus12 wrote:Anyone see the vid of the drunk guy holding a beer standing and fingering the shooter?? Crazy!


    There's video from inside the hotel room?

    No...he was standing in the crowd, and everyone else was laying down.


    Huh, fingering means something different where I come from.
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:22 am
  • This "incident" is now my new way to tell if someone I know or love is plumb dumb or not.
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:23 am
  • If after reading this article you still believe that Paddock is "the guy", I weep for you and your children. This was a black operation.

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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:40 am
  • My wife's brother works for the LVPD (not a beat officer) and they were in town two weeks ago and I asked him about this. He along with several of his coworkers were told not to speak of the incident to any outside media sources, family, friends, nada.

    Something isn't right...
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Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:54 am
  • Hawk_Nation wrote:My wife's brother works for the LVPD (not a beat officer) and they were in town two weeks ago and I asked him about this. He along with several of his coworkers were told not to speak of the incident to any outside media sources, family, friends, nada.

    Something isn't right...


    We're being lied to by law enforcement officials who know what happened, know who orchestrated it, and have been given a gag order in the interest of foreign relations. I can say with certainty that there is no real effort being expended by FBI in hopes of bringing those who committed this atrocity to justice.
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:55 pm
  • Hawk_Nation wrote:My wife's brother works for the LVPD (not a beat officer) and they were in town two weeks ago and I asked him about this. He along with several of his coworkers were told not to speak of the incident to any outside media sources, family, friends, nada.

    Something isn't right...



    ongoing investigation...seems like proper protocol to me.
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:20 am
  • Cyrus12 wrote:
    Hawk_Nation wrote:My wife's brother works for the LVPD (not a beat officer) and they were in town two weeks ago and I asked him about this. He along with several of his coworkers were told not to speak of the incident to any outside media sources, family, friends, nada.

    Something isn't right...



    ongoing investigation...seems like proper protocol to me.


    Proper protocol for a cover-up, perhaps. The LVMPD has changed its story on what happened, including the timeline of events at least three times now. When called out on it by investigative reporters, their response was first to stop permitting those reporters in to the press conferences, then they cancelled the press conferences altogether. In every case, an FBI handler has been present to control the dissemination of information vital to understanding what actually happened.

    I implore you to read the article I linked, if you have not already. It presents nearly irrefutable evidence that something really messed up occurred, well above and beyond some fifty something year old man popping a cork and spraying a bunch of rounds in to a large crowd at a range of 400+ yards.

    This was a black operation, plotted by a foreign adversary, possibly one that we traditionally consider to be an ally.
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:45 pm
  • Cyrus12 wrote:
    Hawk_Nation wrote:My wife's brother works for the LVPD (not a beat officer) and they were in town two weeks ago and I asked him about this. He along with several of his coworkers were told not to speak of the incident to any outside media sources, family, friends, nada.

    Something isn't right...



    ongoing investigation...seems like proper protocol to me.



    Anyone who thinks there isn't something odd going on with this whole case needs to pull their head out of the sand. Im far from a conspiracy type, but too many things just don't seem right for this to be carried out the way were are being told it was.
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:38 am
  • I realize I'm in the minority here but I think its more than possible that this guy did most of this all by himself from a hotel room with all the weapons he trucked up there and he could of made multiple trips to his room without looking suspicious especially in a place like Las Vegas. It wouldn't shock me at all though if he had some help logistically. Hopefully we find out soon enough.
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Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:19 am
  • austinslater25 wrote:I realize I'm in the minority here but I think its more than possible that this guy did most of this all by himself from a hotel room with all the weapons he trucked up there and he could of made multiple trips to his room without looking suspicious especially in a place like Las Vegas. It wouldn't shock me at all though if he had some help logistically. Hopefully we find out soon enough.



    Im with you, I would like to see some video of him carrying up duffle bag after duffle bag to his room. It did not magically arrive there, either himself of a bellhop carried all of that up there..
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Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:56 am
  • austinslater25 wrote:I realize I'm in the minority here but I think its more than possible that this guy did most of this all by himself from a hotel room with all the weapons he trucked up there and he could of made multiple trips to his room without looking suspicious especially in a place like Las Vegas. It wouldn't shock me at all though if he had some help logistically. Hopefully we find out soon enough.


    Did you read the article I linked? While it's possible that this guy was one of the shooters, there is a glut of evidence that demonstrates multiple shooters present. That said, I don't believe this was done with bump stocked AR-15s. The rate of fire with a bump stocked AR-15 is 800-900 rounds per minute. On all of the recordings, you can slow down the audio and count the gunshots. The weapons being fired are a steady 600 rounds per minute, and the deep, boomy report is not consistent with the relatively weak cartridge fired from an AR-15. It is, however, consistent both in acoustics and rate of fire, with a belt fed M-240 light machinegun.

    There's videos of gunfire coming from helicopters. There's videos of possible gunfire coming from a floor much lower to the ground. Paddock could have been a shooter, but he definitely wasn't the only shooter. If this were a case of a lone gunman popping a cork, we wouldn't be seeing the death of several eyewitnesses in the weeks following the attack.
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Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:59 am
  • Hawk_Nation wrote:
    austinslater25 wrote:I realize I'm in the minority here but I think its more than possible that this guy did most of this all by himself from a hotel room with all the weapons he trucked up there and he could of made multiple trips to his room without looking suspicious especially in a place like Las Vegas. It wouldn't shock me at all though if he had some help logistically. Hopefully we find out soon enough.



    Im with you, I would like to see some video of him carrying up duffle bag after duffle bag to his room. It did not magically arrive there, either himself of a bellhop carried all of that up there..


    If it existed we would see it. Law enforcement would produce this video to quell theorizing about what happened. If their story is accurate, they have nothing to hide as a "lone wolf" has no co-conspirators by nature.

    I maintain Paddock wasn't a lone wolf, and I am very skeptical as to whether or not he was one of the shooters. Read the article I linked as it provides some sickeningly detailed evidence that something much greater occurred.
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