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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS!)
Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:40 am
  • Jokes aside, you really think these movies would be better if Daisy Ridley was less attractive? I understand wanting a certain level of believability, but let's be honest. People in general aren't shelling out big bucks to go watch movies full of ugly people. Our stars are attractive for a reason. It's fantasy.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS!)
Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:43 am
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    All in all, this trilogy is held together largely by terrific acting. One thing I'll always grant J.J. Abrams is his impeccable casting. Every interaction in VII made me want to see more of these characters in different combinations.



    Polished young actors is one thing, but IMO the consequence of that is believability. Do you really believe Rey played by Daisy Ridley with her perfect skin, cheek bones and Abercrombie and Fitch model good looks is some orphan who picks up garbage on a crap planet?

    Abrams has done fine, but make no mistake these new movies are safe to be as PC as possible, and to appeal to the broadest possible audience. Which is fine, but as a lifelong Star Wars fans, that isn't interesting, or even compelling Sci-Fi.

    Taking risks is the most imperative component to great film making..............and it's CRYSTAL CLEAR that Disney and Abrams want nothing to do with taking risks to truly elevate the final chapter of Star Wars into great cinema.


    You're preaching to the choir. I would have loved to see Rey get so disillusioned with Luke that she reluctantly joins Kylo and tries to start something new. But that would have been too bold of a writing choice.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS!)
Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:46 am
  • Yeah, they're not going Reynakin. But hey, there is one more movie so who knows.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS!)
Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:51 am
  • Zebulon Dak wrote:Jokes aside, you really think these movies would be better if Daisy Ridley was less attractive? I understand wanting a certain level of believability, but let's be honest. People in general aren't shelling out big bucks to go watch movies full of ugly people. Our stars are attractive for a reason. It's fantasy.


    Not ugly, just not perfect.

    All these young actors look like a Mouskateer casting call. That's all I'm saying, the characters they're playing should be a little rough around the edges, not speak and look like they just stepped off the runway at a Calvin Klein fashion show.

    I like Ridley, she's done a good job. I'm just using her as a microcosm of my larger point. Did you really buy her "I'M REALLY STRUGGLING WITH THIS WHOLE DARK SIDE THING OMG I'M MAD!" scenes?

    I sure didn't. Believability. It matters to me.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS!)
Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:09 pm
  • Haha I don't remember those scenes. I'm not sure how many perfectly attractive women you know but trust me, they're no angels.

    Honestly, I get your point, but I don't think anybody in this movie, Ridley included, is attractive beyond believability. They could have cast Demi Lovato and Zach Efron.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS!)
Tue Jan 02, 2018 1:29 pm
  • Zebulon Dak wrote:Haha I don't remember those scenes. I'm not sure how many perfectly attractive women you know but trust me, they're no angels.


    Right, so why aren't we seeing that in these movies.

    Not for one second do I think Rey isn't going to do the right thing. Every single character is one dimensional without an ounce of believable conflict.

    Makes for a sterile predictable movie, and series.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS!)
Tue Jan 02, 2018 1:35 pm
  • Sure she's attractive, but I still think she's a good enough actress that it doesn't matter. Hayden Christensen was on a Canadian teen soap opera before he was cast in Star Wars. Women thought he was gorgeous when it was announced. He's a shit actor.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS!)
Tue Jan 02, 2018 1:57 pm
  • Maulbert wrote:Sure she's attractive, but I still think she's a good enough actress that it doesn't matter. Hayden Christensen was on a Canadian teen soap opera before he was cast in Star Wars. Women thought he was gorgeous when it was announced. He's a shit actor.


    It's exactly what I'm talking about, it's just that Abrams did a better job at casting than Lucas did.

    Do you know why all the John Hugh's movies still hold up today and still resonate with kids? Cause he cast real kids, kids that looked like normal kids. Actors that could relate to the characters they were playing, conflicted awkward angsty unsure of themselves, because those actors WERE conflicted awkward and unsure of themselves.

    That's what I want out of Ridley. But when you look like that, and have been a polished kid actor since the age of 7, there's no way she can dig deep and pull that kind of complexity out to make me believe she's conflicted or doubting herself.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS!)
Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:09 pm
  • Imagine if the cast of the Breakfast Club was tasked with saving the galaxy from the evil First Order.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS!)
Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:13 pm
  • Zebulon Dak wrote:Imagine if the cast of the Breakfast Club was tasked with saving the galaxy from the evil First Order.


    Still better than the prequels.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS!)
Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:17 pm
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    Zebulon Dak wrote:Imagine if the cast of the Breakfast Club was tasked with saving the galaxy from the evil First Order.


    Still better than the prequels.


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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS!)
Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:21 pm
  • Come to think of it, they did do that. They called it Firefly.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS!)
Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:17 pm
  • Zebulon Dak wrote:Come to think of it, they did do that. They called it Firefly.


    Well, they didn't exactly save the galaxy.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS!)
Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:46 pm
  • Maulbert wrote:
    Zebulon Dak wrote:Come to think of it, they did do that. They called it Firefly.


    Well, they didn't exactly save the galaxy.


    This is the part where I admit I've never actually seen Firefly. But let's not hijack the thread about it haha.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS!)
Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:53 pm
  • Zebulon Dak wrote:
    Maulbert wrote:
    Zebulon Dak wrote:Come to think of it, they did do that. They called it Firefly.


    Well, they didn't exactly save the galaxy.


    This is the part where I admit I've never actually seen Firefly. But let's not hijack the thread about it haha.


    You should check it out. It's not a heavy investment. 15 40 minute episodes and a 2 hour movie.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS!)
Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:05 pm
  • Maulbert wrote:
    Zebulon Dak wrote:
    Maulbert wrote:
    Zebulon Dak wrote:Come to think of it, they did do that. They called it Firefly.


    Well, they didn't exactly save the galaxy.


    This is the part where I admit I've never actually seen Firefly. But let's not hijack the thread about it haha.


    You should check it out. It's not a heavy investment. 15 40 minute episodes and a 2 hour movie.


    Is Jar Jar binks in it????

    Still think he should never be a jedi tho.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS!)
Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:53 pm
  • There is no Jar Jar Binks.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS!)
Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:37 pm
  • Zebulon Dak wrote:There is no Jar Jar Binks.


    ...only Zuul.









    Sorry, couldn't resist.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS!)
Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:20 am
  • Maulbert wrote:
    Zebulon Dak wrote:There is no Jar Jar Binks.


    ...only Zuul.









    Sorry, couldn't resist.


    Exactly true.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS!)
Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:37 pm
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    Zebulon Dak wrote:
    Sgt. Largent wrote:Do you really believe Rey played by Daisy Ridley with her perfect skin, cheek bones and Abercrombie and Fitch model good looks is some orphan who picks up garbage on a crap planet?


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    Me too, but Lea's royalty, she should be attractive.


    Getting this back on track, as to your comment, when must royalty be attractive? Seriously, with a history of inbreeding? I mean, look at the British royal family and tell me any of them that didn't marry in are good looking.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS!)
Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:59 pm
  • Maulbert wrote:
    Sgt. Largent wrote:
    Zebulon Dak wrote:
    Sgt. Largent wrote:Do you really believe Rey played by Daisy Ridley with her perfect skin, cheek bones and Abercrombie and Fitch model good looks is some orphan who picks up garbage on a crap planet?


    I like my Star Wars gals pretty.

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    Me too, but Lea's royalty, she should be attractive.


    Getting this back on track, as to your comment, when must royalty be attractive? Seriously, with a history of inbreeding? I mean, look at the British royal family and tell me any of them that didn't marry in are good looking.


    You're the one who said you like your royalty pretty.

    My point is Daisy Ridley, like most of the younger cast of these new movies is too perfect to be playing her character. An orphan who picks up garbage to survive on a crap planet shouldn't look like Ridley, or speak and act like she spent her childhood in a boarding school in Sussex.

    It's not a big deal, Ridley's done fine. Just a critical observation about how Disney and Abrams casted.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS!)
Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:57 pm
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    Maulbert wrote:
    Sgt. Largent wrote:
    Zebulon Dak wrote:
    I like my Star Wars gals pretty.

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    Me too, but Lea's royalty, she should be attractive.


    Getting this back on track, as to your comment, when must royalty be attractive? Seriously, with a history of inbreeding? I mean, look at the British royal family and tell me any of them that didn't marry in are good looking.


    You're the one who said you like your royalty pretty.

    My point is Daisy Ridley, like most of the younger cast of these new movies is too perfect to be playing her character. An orphan who picks up garbage to survive on a crap planet shouldn't look like Ridley, or speak and act like she spent her childhood in a boarding school in Sussex.

    It's not a big deal, Ridley's done fine. Just a critical observation about how Disney and Abrams casted.


    No, I didn't. Zeb said he liked his Star Wars gals pretty. At least keep who you're arguing with straight. Plus, Zeb said nothing about royalty. That was all you.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS!)
Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:08 pm
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    No, I didn't. Zeb said he liked his Star Wars gals pretty. At least keep who you're arguing with straight. Plus, Zeb said nothing about royalty. That was all you.


    Who's on first?
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS!)
Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:21 pm
  • Maybe Rey has unknowingly been using the Force her whole life to keep her skin from becoming blemished.

    And now you have wonder if I'm being serious or not.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS!)
Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:36 pm
  • Daisy Ridley is a solid 6/10. Seriously whats this shit about her being too attractive? She's ok but nothing special. Maybe its cause youre comparing her to Kylo Ren's ugly ass?

    Ive actually seen people complain that they picked such an average looking girl as the lead.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS!)
Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:46 pm
  • I think Daisy's beautiful but I don't think she's unbelievably beautiful. I wouldn't kick her out of bed for eating crackers.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS!)
Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:27 pm
  • The casting is not really the problem in these movies. I think the crux of the problem is the story, quite frankly it makes no sense. Disney is more interested in trying to appeal to every demographic, and overt product placement -- so they could sell more memorabilia. The biggest part of Star Wars is not the ticket sales, but the branding, and merchandising. Disney realizes this, and is focusing on the last two aspects. All of the above was demonstrated in the casino arc. It was out of place -- it read as a big advertisement for Star Wars product, and appeal to a wider demographic.

    This is where the writing comes in. You can have Asian, Black, Mexican, White, etc actors in prominent roles without resorting to garbage like the casino arc. I think trash like this is more patronizing than anything. Star Wars needs to take a page out of the Star Trek book when it comes to gender, and racial integration into the show. They focused on the writing --- and character development, everything else fell into place. Unfortunately none of the characters in this show have any personality, or character... They somehow even managed to make the existing character templates of Han Solo, Leia and Luke, dull. Kylo Ren is really the only interesting character, with any kind of depth. Unfortunately --- they also made him seem like a man toddler.

    This approach isn't working, and the first signs are showing in merchandising sells. The figurine, and toy sells were down quite a bit from the last movie. The theater sells were also lagging behind the other iterations -- you know why? The story sucks. It is hard to relate empathize with any of these characters, as they are nothing but blank slates.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS!)
Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:55 pm
  • Now, the next major gripe is the overall story of the new Star Wars -- this is my biggest gripe, even over the blank slate characters that have no real personality. This ties in with the jarring usage of product placement. Rey is the first person I have to address. Even without any sort of formal training she was able to beat down Kylo Ren like he was some kind of novice. Ren was a man that was supposed to be a prodigy, a force user that even scared Luke. Rey was able to walk in, and beat him with little drama. This is a force user that had been trained since he was a wee little lad in the way of the force. Even Luke had to get training from Obi Wan before he could use his force powers in a New Hope. Rey just randomly accesses them when she is in danger, and has full control in these moments. This makes no sense in the existing Star Wars lore, no... this makes no sense from even a logical point of view.

    Finn.... He makes no sense in Star Wars. He is just a filler character. No real purpose, I thought they were going to make him into the next Han --- that is how they billed him. Instead what we get is a weird character with no real purpose in the story other than spouting cringy one liners. I think Finn would have been better placed as the rogue ace pilot for the resistance. Right now he really has no place, or much of a purpose in his current configuration. I would have loved for him to be some ace pilot for the first order that defected rather than a janitor.

    Luke's training with Daisy.... It makes no sense. After a few days she was able to have full mastery over the force. There was no process, no discovery, no work, no knowledge needed for her to gain her powers. It just happened. This was a huge wasted opportunity. I like the self imposed exile, and the fact that he was so afraid of an apprentice, and of what he may become that he had a moment of weakness and tried to strike him down. I think a story line that focuses on Luke struggling with the darkside of the force after he tries to strike down Ren. So afraid of his own potential for evil he locks himself away, and all of his force abilities.

    Also dislike the way this movie ended. Luke somehow was able to teleport/make a force projection of himself on some other side of a galaxy, and blow away an entire army. The degree that this movie makes one suspend belief is quite bothersome. Not Yoda, nor Vader, Palpentine, nor Mace Windu was able to perform this jesus like feat. I'm sorry, not buying this one. Bad writing.

    The thing that I disliked most was the lack of explanation behind Snoke, and how easily he was slayed. How did he come to power, who was he? How did he train in and master his sith powers? Why did the New Republic just let a random, hostile army to be built up. They knew it was there yet they ignored it the first order. The magnitude that these new star wars make one suspend their beliefs is quite appalling. In the real world

    There is one thing I found interesting --- I really hope they play with this concept. It was implied that there was wide spread corruption in the new republic. People dealing arms to both sides, making elicit deals with enemies and wide spread inequality, and slavery. When Kylo was talking to Rey it almost seemed as if his side was the one in the right, and his ideals that he wanted to bestow upon the galaxy were more just. It would be quite amusing if there was a role switch, where the first order that is headed by Kylo ends up being the good guys, while Rey ends up falling to the dark side. Luke hinted that he saw a lot of the darkside in her. Such a switch would be interesting, and quite unprecedented in the Star Wars universe.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS!)
Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:37 am
  • Spin Doctor wrote:The casting is not really the problem in these movies. I think the crux of the problem is the story, quite frankly it makes no sense.


    You shouldn't be too confused by the story, it's the exact same story as the first trilogy.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS!)
Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:43 pm
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    Spin Doctor wrote:The casting is not really the problem in these movies. I think the crux of the problem is the story, quite frankly it makes no sense.


    You shouldn't be too confused by the story, it's the exact same story as the first trilogy.

    Not really. At a cursory glance, yeah, sure it is the Resistance vs. the First Order. Same deal as the empire against the rebel forces. Jedi hero comes to save the day, etc. The basic outline is the same, but that is where the story diverges. The details are the important part. In this series there doesn't seem to be much continuity, and it relies on deus ex machina plot devices to move the story forward. The best word to describe these two movies is, jarring.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS!)
Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:26 pm
  • Spin Doctor wrote:
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    Spin Doctor wrote:The casting is not really the problem in these movies. I think the crux of the problem is the story, quite frankly it makes no sense.


    You shouldn't be too confused by the story, it's the exact same story as the first trilogy.

    Not really. At a cursory glance, yeah, sure it is the Resistance vs. the First Order. Same deal as the empire against the rebel forces. Jedi hero comes to save the day, etc. The basic outline is the same, but that is where the story diverges. The details are the important part. In this series there doesn't seem to be much continuity, and it relies on deus ex machina plot devices to move the story forward. The best word to describe these two movies is, jarring.


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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS!)
Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:31 pm
  • Spin Doctor wrote:
    Sgt. Largent wrote:
    Spin Doctor wrote:The casting is not really the problem in these movies. I think the crux of the problem is the story, quite frankly it makes no sense.


    You shouldn't be too confused by the story, it's the exact same story as the first trilogy.

    Not really. At a cursory glance, yeah, sure it is the Resistance vs. the First Order. Same deal as the empire against the rebel forces. Jedi hero comes to save the day, etc. The basic outline is the same, but that is where the story diverges. The details are the important part. In this series there doesn't seem to be much continuity, and it relies on deus ex machina plot devices to move the story forward. The best word to describe these two movies is, jarring.


    Tongue in cheek, but even Abrams has admitted that the sequel storyline is meant to follow the same path as the originals, at least as far as most of the main characters, especially Rey.

    IMO what I love about the sequels is it's own worst enemy if you're talking story................shoehorning the original cast into the main story arc. Awesome seeing Han, Lea, Luke, etc back, but their scenes and story arcs have been some of the most stilted and uneven scenes in the movies so far.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS!)
Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:58 pm
  • A few of my favorite things about this movie in no particular order:

    1) Snoke and the throne room fight. Snoke looked great, first off. You kind of forget you're looking at CG. All his dialogue was awesome and Serkis did a brilliant job with the motion capture and voice acting. I'd expect nothing else from him. Having Kylo kill Snoke was a big surprise and I really liked the way they did it. Getting to see him and Rey fight together vs the Praetorian Guard was really cool, seeing the lightsabers used in some different ways was also cool. And then ultimately having Kylo and Rey still leave the encounter as enemies, after teasing a friendship/alliance sets up the potentially epic final showdown in Episode IX, which I'm now greatly looking forward to.

    2) Opening space battle was awesome. Classic Star Wars with some new wrinkles thrown in. Almost wish Paige would have been the sister to survive with Rose being the one to sacrifice herself in the bombing. Admittedly only because Ngô Thanh Vân is easier on the eyes and I just found Kelly Marie Tran's Rose to be kind of annoying and just not a super enjoyable character. I don't hate her, but she didn't inspire much affection from me. Poe's new super pursuit mode and his Tokyo drifting was badass. Honorable mention to Captain Canady for defiantly going down with his ship.

    3) Yoda. Seeing him and Luke together again as teacher and student plucked all the nostalgia strings. The first time you see Yoda he looks weird, almost like a bad CG job, but then you realize it's actually a puppet modeled after the old ones and it's pretty perfect. Frank Oz of course did a great job with the voice and Yoda drops some serious knowledge and is just delightful, as we've come to expect. Luke's "THE SACRED JEDI TEXTS!!" cracks me up every time. Burning down the tree without us being aware that Rey took the books was a nice touch. You almost think Yoda's going to agree about the Jedi having to end. But of course he just okey-doked us. And hearing Yoda say Ben and Rey's names sort of legitimized them for me, if that make sense. "We are what they grow beyond. That is the true burden of all masters." Great moment. All of a sudden it was 1983 again.

    4) Luke. I thought Mark Hamill was absolutely splendid in this. Despite his apparent disagreements with the direction of the character, he played it perfectly. When he pole-vaulted across that chasm and landed safely on the other side, he was young Luke again, swinging from a rope with Leia on the first Death Star or from Jabba's sail barge. His reluctance to train Rey and his probably inevitable decision to do so, thanks to R2's persuasion, well done. The Kurosawa-esque device of using different points of view to show what happened between him and Ben was unique and refreshing for a Star Wars movie. The fight between him and Rey in the rain was great and it felt good to see her stand up to him without the overt "OMG is she gonna turn to the dark side??" tease. It felt like she was right in the situation and you wanted her to change his mind. Which obviously, ultimately, he did. And then he got to be the hero, showing us how powerful in the Force he truly was, by astral projecting himself to Crate to face Kylo; his interaction there with Leia was touching, his wink at Threepio, seeing the few remaining Rebels look on in awe as he walked out to face the entire First Order with a laser sword, the shoulder brush, his zen-like confrontation with Kylo, his Han Solo moment: "see you around, kid" and then staring off into the twin suns as he transitions into the Force, was all perfect to me. I couldn't have imagined a more bittersweet yet heroic ending for Luke Skywalker. Really glad it went the way it did.

    Finn vs Phasma was badass. Rey lifting rocks to free the remaining rebels was really cool. Admiral Holdo lightspeed blasting through Snoke's Supremacy and the fleet of Star Destroyers was probably the most visually epic moment in Star Wars history. Very well done. Everything with Chewie was awesome. Hell, I even like the Porgs.

    This movie has plenty of faults and things you can critique. It's far from perfect. But what it did well it did really well and overall I think it stands up to the best of the franchise, even if it causes you to look a the whole galaxy differently going forward. I really believe that history will look fondly on this movie and in 10-20 years it'll be considered one of the best and most important.
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  • If they do anything smart with these next 3 "unrelated" movies, they cover Galen Marek. It could even tie together where the resistance crest comes from. These movies would be HUGE. I know they won't though and it will be a lesser story.



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  • Forgot how angry dumb ass Kota made me with this moronic religious Jedi rhetoric.

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  • On second thought, the story just needs to go on with these new two. I get really tired of the story going in circles given that you know the Jedi will always do the dumbest thing possible for the dumbest reasons.

    I like where it's going now. Rey and Ren have a little bit of a wildcard aspect to them when not being guided by essentially bi-partisan religious freak nutjobs.
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  • So, I saw it again Saturday, probably the last time I'll see it in theaters. Anyway, something that occurred to me towards the end of the movie is that the Jedi absolutely love 'a certain point of view', and this came up, obviously, when Yoda told Luke the library 'contained nothing the girl Rey did not already posess.' At the time, it seemed Yoda meant their wisdom was universal. In hindsight, he obviously meant she took the books.

    However, I don't think this is the only time in the movie someone uses 'a certain point of view'. I think Luke does as well. You'll notice, when Luke is speaking to Leia about Kylo Ren at the end, he says, "I can't save him." Leia responds, "I held out hope for so long, but now I know my son is gone.", which Luke responds to with, "No one's ever truly gone.", before giving her Han's dice. Now, that could easily be viewed as a reference to Han not truly being gone, but I think that's Luke's way of saying he can't save Ben Solo, but someone else can.

    Now, the obvious candidate is Rey, she has shown an ability to actually cut him to the core without making him fly into a rage, an ability no one else has, but more than that, the reason I believe it is because I think Luke has faith that Rey can do it. My reasoning for this belief is the fact that we know Snoke bridged Rey and Kylo's minds in the film but obviously, that bridge should have been severed after Snoke died and yet, there was that moment when the Falcon is escaping, it's very obvious Rey and Kylo are looking at each other before she closes the ramp. My theory is that Luke's spirit was bridging their minds at that moment, not Snoke. The reason I believe that is that Kylo picks up the projection of Han's dice, then looks up to see Rey close the ramp, and then the dice disappear, the last remenant of Luke's force projection. I think this theory could lead to interesting things in Episode IX. Any thoughts?

    Maybe not well worded, and heavily truncated, but I'm tapping this out on my pad.
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  • Just a reminder that this will be available on digital tomorrow. Well, sometime after midnight tonight, I imagine.
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  • Zebulon Dak wrote:Just a reminder that this will be available on digital tomorrow. Well, sometime after midnight tonight, I imagine.



    Thanks buddy. I have been waiting.
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  • Got it yesterday on DVD. It is in the player and waiting for me to press play. It will happen soon.
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  • what are you waiting for press play!!!
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  • Zebulon Dak wrote:what are you waiting for press play!!!


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  • Streep would perhaps have been Fisher's choice to carry on the Leia legend - the actresses were good friends and Meryl portrayed Suzanne Vale in the 1990 film adaptation of Carrie's book, "Postcards From the Edge."


    Many fans believe Vale was based on Fisher herself.
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  • Zebulon Dak wrote:what are you waiting for press play!!!


    Thank you....I just needed permission. :rumble:
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    this will literally never happen.
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    this will literally never happen.



    Agree with this completely. CGI or not at all.
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Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:51 am
  • This franchise is dead.

    It was purchased by a large corporation from a man who was tired of fighting execs and toy company salesmen.

    It is written and directed for the mass market using salesmen and focus groups as a directive - uses bolshevik marketing to actually GUILT people into liking it (if you don't like our crap product you are not cool, you are racist, you are sexist, blah blah blah).

    The film is about making money, and there is not one consideration for making actual art.

    When the original movie came out, Lucas thought he was going to lose the shirt off his back... that's why it was great.

    This? This prurient running diarrhea is not Star Wars anymore than a Big Mac is an actual hamburger, and it has the same effect on the mind and spirit that Mcfood has on the body -- meaning, that if you eat that shit - chances are you are already fat, or you are going to get fat. If you are imbibing this kind of art and actually believing it has quality, you are either already a moron, or you are on your way to becoming a moron.


    Last Jedi was one of the stupidest frakking movies I have ever seen in MY ENTIRE LIFE... Really, it's comparable to Star Trek 5, it was that effing moronic.

    And when someone tries to tell me it was good, I just don't even know what to say to them.

    This franchise did two unforgivable things.

    They did not give the original trio a SINGLE SCENE together in two effing movies, and now Carrie Fisher is dead. That was moronic and may the fleas of a thousand camels infest the armpits of Abarms, the 2nd stooge, and the queen executive bitch they put in charge of this hot mess.

    Second, they made Luke Skywalker a coward. They took a guy that had such faith in humanity that he turned his evil robot father back to the light side, and then said that he was actually not that person, he was actually a person who would kill a child because there is no hope in him. When Luke Skywalker's first response to a discipline issue is to murder his own freaking nephew, maybe that's a clue that the thinking of our entire society is utterly flawed? It's like we've forgotten what an actual hero is.


    People talk about our society... what is wrong?

    Why are our schoolchildren murdering each other?

    Maybe look at the postmodern crap we are feeding everyone. Art inspires, it reflects.

    What is this crap inspiring?
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