I have never heard of anything like this. $126 million?
Nope. $126 bucks. Dollars. Daaaaamn.
WmHBonney wrote:The guy is a predatory pedophile. Convicted? No. But, where there is smoke, there is fire. There are over a dozen allegations. I hope he goes broke.
WmHBonney wrote:The guy is a predatory pedophile. Convicted? No. But, where there is smoke, there is fire. There are over a dozen allegations. I hope he goes broke.
fenderbender123 wrote:WmHBonney wrote:The guy is a predatory pedophile. Convicted? No. But, where there is smoke, there is fire. There are over a dozen allegations. I hope he goes broke.
He never admitted anything other than the possibility he might have done something when he was drunk a long time ago.
And i understand why people would not like him but what do you expect to accomplish by making him go broke? It's not going to deter that kind of behavior and it prevents him from sharing his talent with the world for millions to enjoy.
Oh yeah, and the guy that accused him was 14 at the time of the alleged incident. That doesn't make him a pedophile. That's the wrong term by all literary and scientific accounts. There is a huge difference in somebody who is attracted to pre pubescent children vs teenagers.
fenderbender123 wrote:In fact I can guarantee that everyone has eaten and enjoyed food that was prepared by convicted rapists and child molestors. So why enjoy that but not enjoy Kevin Spaceys movies? Double standard.
fenderbender123 wrote:So why do you care so much about Kevin Spacey but don't care enough about restaurant employees to do the research and find out? Is it that you only care when the info is conveniently fed to you? Because if so, then that is very telling as to how much you actually care deep down inside. It makes it look like you let others control your thinking instead of deciding what your morals are for yourself.
Uncle Si wrote: You're not, as much as you want to be. In the end, you're just defending, whether you intend to or not, sexual predators. .
fenderbender123 wrote:Uncle Si wrote: You're not, as much as you want to be. In the end, you're just defending, whether you intend to or not, sexual predators. .
That is completely over the line. Complete bullshit. Seriously, it always comes down to this stupid ass simplification of language to dictate the issue. People just can't resist this sort of childishness when discussing this issue. I expect better from you.
I am not defending sexual predators. You know that. Anyone with half a brain knows that.
All I am doing is pointing out that we should be REWARDING people when they do GOOD things (such as working and producing things for society) and then we should PUNISH people for when they do BAD things. But that punishment should not interfere with their ability to do good.
Say you have a dog, and that dog chews on the couch. So you punish him. Then later on the dog fetches your paper...so you punish him again because you're still mad at him for chewing the couch.
That's essentially what society does to people like Kevin Spacey. It is GOOD when Kevin Spacey works his ass off and uses his talents to make movies, much like it's good when our dog fetches us the paper. We should never punish him for when he's doing those goods things. But if he does something bad, then yes we should punish him, but not when he goes out and makes another movie. Because that's like hitting your dog again when he goes out and gets the paper.
What do you want Kevin Spacey to do? He is a living, breathing person. He is a human resource. He can work for us. He is an asset. Wanting to take all that and everything else away from him is barbaric. It's an example of how bloodthirsty humans still are. People lust for revenge so aggressively that they literally don't mind sacrificing themselves just to see somebody they hate get punished even further.
fenderbender123 wrote:Okay, I get it. Some people's brains aren't developed enough to separate the actor from the person.
fenderbender123 wrote:I know it wasn't one incident. Changes nothing.
I find it very barabaric how we want to shun people from society just because they struggle with one of their demons and just because they are famous.
fenderbender123 wrote:Just because something bad happened doesn't mean we have to continue to make more bad happen.
I don't disagree with anything you're saying, Chapow. Other than your assumption that I think Kevin Spacey is "the" victim, as in singular, implying that I don't think anybody he may have sexually assaulted is not a victim. Why can't I think some people are victims of one thing, and another is a victim of another?
My hope is that people learn how to sort these things out in their minds. The more we love each other, the better off society is. Love is all anybody ever needs. No matter who it is.
Chapow wrote:fenderbender123 wrote:Just because something bad happened doesn't mean we have to continue to make more bad happen.
I don't disagree with anything you're saying, Chapow. Other than your assumption that I think Kevin Spacey is "the" victim, as in singular, implying that I don't think anybody he may have sexually assaulted is not a victim. Why can't I think some people are victims of one thing, and another is a victim of another?
My hope is that people learn how to sort these things out in their minds. The more we love each other, the better off society is. Love is all anybody ever needs. No matter who it is.
Out of curiosity, what do you think we as a society should do with sexual predators?
Chapow wrote:fenderbender123 wrote:Just because something bad happened doesn't mean we have to continue to make more bad happen.
I don't disagree with anything you're saying, Chapow. Other than your assumption that I think Kevin Spacey is "the" victim, as in singular, implying that I don't think anybody he may have sexually assaulted is not a victim. Why can't I think some people are victims of one thing, and another is a victim of another?
My hope is that people learn how to sort these things out in their minds. The more we love each other, the better off society is. Love is all anybody ever needs. No matter who it is.
Out of curiosity, what do you think we as a society should do with sexual predators?
fenderbender123 wrote:And here's a little insight on why I have such radical views.
I have always been a bit of a scoundrel in my life. I'm not a bad person. I have never done anything like Kevin Spacey has allegedly done or anything like Louis CK has done. I'm actually pretty respectful and normal when it comes to sex.
But I spent a lot of my school years getting in trouble. And I get in trouble at work, too. And the reality is this...the more I get punished, the more I want to be a shithead. The more I hate people. The more of a rift it creates between me and them. It does NOT correct my behavior. It is only when people reach out and show that they respect and love me that I begin to flourish and feel bad for the things I've done.
Seriously, why should anyone feel bad about what they've done to people when people are retaliating and attacking back? It just widens the rift. That's not to say jail time and such isn't out of the question...sometimes you just have to remove somebody from society a bit to keep people safe when they are way out of line. But hopefully you guys get what i'm saying.
fenderbender123 wrote:I just told you exactly how I have and do change my ways. Love me and respect me. Don't punish me.
fenderbender123 wrote:I just told you exactly how I have and do change my ways. Love me and respect me. Don't punish me.
fenderbender123 wrote:I know the thought process. I get it.
All I'm saying is that our current way of doing things is not very effective in fixing people or preventing future incidents. And that we all wind up making too many sacrifices when trying to uphold it.
2_0_6 wrote:Chapow wrote:fenderbender123 wrote:Just because something bad happened doesn't mean we have to continue to make more bad happen.
I don't disagree with anything you're saying, Chapow. Other than your assumption that I think Kevin Spacey is "the" victim, as in singular, implying that I don't think anybody he may have sexually assaulted is not a victim. Why can't I think some people are victims of one thing, and another is a victim of another?
My hope is that people learn how to sort these things out in their minds. The more we love each other, the better off society is. Love is all anybody ever needs. No matter who it is.
Out of curiosity, what do you think we as a society should do with sexual predators?
If you rape a child, you should get the death penalty. That child will forever be ruined and will have nightmares for the rest of their lives.
A cousin who was like a brother growing up of mine raped his step daughter, and let's just say between myself and a few other family members he went to prison to begin his 25 year sentence missing a few teeth.
2_0_6 wrote:If you rape a child, you should get the death penalty. That child will forever be ruined and will have nightmares for the rest of their lives.
2_0_6 wrote:I would bet that in less than 5 years more than 50% of the cinemas will be closed, because more and more people are deciding to stream movies from their homes.
fenderbender123 wrote:2_0_6 wrote:If you rape a child, you should get the death penalty. That child will forever be ruined and will have nightmares for the rest of their lives.
And does killing the person who did this make that go away?
fenderbender123 wrote:2_0_6 wrote:I would bet that in less than 5 years more than 50% of the cinemas will be closed, because more and more people are deciding to stream movies from their homes.
Eh....then how is Hollywood gonna make their money? How are they going to extract $15 per person watching it?
fenderbender123 wrote:2_0_6 wrote:If you rape a child, you should get the death penalty. That child will forever be ruined and will have nightmares for the rest of their lives.
And does killing the person who did this make that go away?
2_0_6 wrote:fenderbender123 wrote:2_0_6 wrote:If you rape a child, you should get the death penalty. That child will forever be ruined and will have nightmares for the rest of their lives.
And does killing the person who did this make that go away?
Is that a real question or are you attempting to be a troll?![]()
There is no rehabilitation for someone that molests a child. They are the lowest of the low, and do not deserve the right to walk this planet. Regardless of what type of counseling, meds, or therapy they get they will ALWAYS be a threat.
fenderbender123 wrote:2_0_6 wrote:fenderbender123 wrote:2_0_6 wrote:If you rape a child, you should get the death penalty. That child will forever be ruined and will have nightmares for the rest of their lives.
And does killing the person who did this make that go away?
Is that a real question or are you attempting to be a troll?![]()
There is no rehabilitation for someone that molests a child. They are the lowest of the low, and do not deserve the right to walk this planet. Regardless of what type of counseling, meds, or therapy they get they will ALWAYS be a threat.
You aren't even understanding what I am saying.
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