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Star Trek Picard
Thu May 23, 2019 8:34 pm

Re: Star Trek Picard
Thu May 23, 2019 8:59 pm
  • I say “why not”?

    I’m no Trek Nerd but I’ve enjoyed most of the stuff on it’s own merits.

    Original series, follow up series and movies.
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Re: Star Trek Picard
Thu May 23, 2019 11:17 pm
  • I'm interested, but that trailer has nothing to do with it. It kinda sucks.
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Re: Star Trek Picard
Fri May 24, 2019 8:18 am
  • Looked like a pharmaceutical commercial.
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Re: Star Trek Picard
Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:43 pm

Re: Star Trek Picard
Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:34 pm
  • I hope it's more consistent than Discovery, which has some cringe-worthy stretches. I'll watch regardless.

    Also, why can't they just make a grittier Trek? Why does it always have to be a sunny aesthetic with moral life lessons? I really want to see a Trek movie or series with more of an Expanse vibe.
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Re: Star Trek Picard
Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:40 pm
  • pehawk wrote:I hope it's more consistent than Discovery, which has some cringe-worthy stretches. I'll watch regardless.

    Also, why can't they just make a grittier Trek? Why does it always have to be a sunny aesthetic with moral life lessons? I really want to see a Trek movie or series with more of an Expanse vibe.

    The grit is sort of built into the Expanse universe. It would be a risk for make Trek grittier, and studios seem pretty risk averse with their investments which sucks.
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Re: Star Trek Picard
Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:46 pm
  • knownone wrote:
    pehawk wrote:I hope it's more consistent than Discovery, which has some cringe-worthy stretches. I'll watch regardless.

    Also, why can't they just make a grittier Trek? Why does it always have to be a sunny aesthetic with moral life lessons? I really want to see a Trek movie or series with more of an Expanse vibe.

    The grit is sort of built into the Expanse universe. It would be a risk for make Trek grittier, and studios seem pretty risk averse with their investments which sucks.


    Let's hope Tarantino follows through.
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Re: Star Trek Picard
Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:00 pm
  • pehawk wrote:I hope it's more consistent than Discovery, which has some cringe-worthy stretches. I'll watch regardless.

    Also, why can't they just make a grittier Trek? Why does it always have to be a sunny aesthetic with moral life lessons? I really want to see a Trek movie or series with more of an Expanse vibe.


    Because Gene Roddenberry had a vision, the series was to be about aspects of life and strife we have in the real world depicted in this fantasy world.

    Here this may say it better then me.

    As early as 1964, Gene Roddenberry drafted a proposal for the science-fiction series that would become Star Trek. Although he publicly marketed it as a Western in outer space—a so-called "Wagon Train to the Stars"—he privately told friends that he was modeling it on Jonathan Swift's Gulliver's Travels, intending each episode to act on two levels: as a suspenseful adventure story and as a morality tale.
    Most Star Trek stories depict the adventures of humans[a] and aliens who serve in Starfleet, the space-borne humanitarian and peacekeeping armada of the United Federation of Planets. The protagonists have altruistic values, and must apply these ideals to difficult dilemmas.


    Many of the conflicts and political dimensions of Star Trek represent allegories of contemporary cultural realities. Star Trek: The Original Series addressed issues of the 1960s, just as later spin-offs have reflected issues of their respective decades. Issues depicted in the various series include war and peace, the value of personal loyalty, authoritarianism, imperialism, class warfare, economics, racism, religion, human rights, sexism, feminism, and the role of technology. Roddenberry stated: "[By creating] a new world with new rules, I could make statements about $ex, religion, Vietnam, politics, and intercontinental missiles. Indeed, we did make them on Star Trek: we were sending messages and fortunately they all got by the network. If you talked about purple people on a far off planet, they (the television network) never really caught on. They were more concerned about cleavage. They actually would send a censor down to the set to measure a woman's cleavage to make sure too much of her breast wasn't showing


    Roddenberry intended the show to have a progressive political agenda reflective of the emerging counter-culture of the youth movement, though he was not fully forthcoming to the networks about this. He wanted Star Trek to show what humanity might develop into, if it would learn from the lessons of the past, most specifically by ending violence. An extreme example is the alien species, the Vulcans, who had a violent past but learned to control their emotions. Roddenberry also gave Star Trek an anti-war message and depicted the United Federation of Planets as an ideal, optimistic version of the United Nations. His efforts were opposed by the network because of concerns over marketability, e.g., they opposed Roddenberry's insistence that Enterprise have a racially diverse crew.


    Once Gene passed away his wife had creative control and the stories had to maintain his vision, you might remember her, she was the original 1st officer called Number 1 in the initial Pilot with Jeffery Hunter as Commander Pike, she was also the Original Nurse Chapel in the follow up and series for a while, she also was the voice of the Computer.


    Now days CBS and Paramount have a split rights ownership over the series Movies and TV and it causes a lot of issues with development. Why stuff being thought to be created gets delayed and shelved so much.
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Re: Star Trek Picard
Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:22 pm
  • Yeah, I'm aware of all that. But I just want it to stop. It's 2019.
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Re: Star Trek Picard
Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:41 pm
  • I'm sure some of the other tng cast will make appearances. Dont see them doing anything else. The reboot movies were a failure imo so this might get things going again.
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