Post subject: Re: ex LAPD officer suspect in shooting
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:35 pm
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Largent80 wrote:
Over 3 million guns available to whoever wants them...Kill away motherfuckers.
Doesn't matter if you are sane, insane, or anything in between, a gun is waiting for you. Use it and kill whomever you want.
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Post subject: Re: ex LAPD officer suspect in shooting
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:41 pm
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-The Glove- wrote:
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Just another right wing nut job scared the man's gonna take away his guns.
Why speak when you clearly don't know the whole situation. I understand you want to further your own agenda, but Cmon! This guy is pro-AWB. He rants about how ridiculously easy it is for him to get assault rifles and a silencer.
Yeah, and GOD gave him the go ahead on killing people, while he was preaching about people not having guns LIKE HE HAS PURCHASED with ease, sounds perfectly rational to me
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Post subject: Re: ex LAPD officer suspect in shooting
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:03 pm
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Largent80 wrote:
Over 3 million guns available to whoever wants them...Kill away motherfuckers.
Doesn't matter if you are sane, insane, or anything in between, a gun is waiting for you. Use it and kill whomever you want.
Ummmmm, I think your number is a bit low there. Last I heard, there were 250-300 million guns in the country. Perhaps you were just thinking East LA?
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Post subject: Re: ex LAPD officer suspect in shooting
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:21 pm
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If half of what this man claims is true, I hope they due full investigation on everyone he's implicated no matter what his outcome is.
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Post subject: Re: ex LAPD officer suspect in shooting
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:23 pm
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some of the things he claims is a bit disturbing... things you can't make up like, letting people die on the scene so they can get some extra overtime securing the scene, or taking pictures of dead bodies and texting them to other precincts to see who has the most gruesome body of the night like it's a game.. man that's some messed up stuff...
i particularly like the part where he points out all the officers aquitted in the rodney king beating have all been promoted to supervisor positions, that's good to know.. i'd say LAPD and other police departments are a bit corrupt...
would like to find out if what he said is true or not myself..
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Post subject: Re: ex LAPD officer suspect in shooting
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:29 pm
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scutterhawk wrote:
-The Glove- wrote:
Seahawk Sailor wrote:
Just another right wing nut job scared the man's gonna take away his guns.
Why speak when you clearly don't know the whole situation. I understand you want to further your own agenda, but Cmon! This guy is pro-AWB. He rants about how ridiculously easy it is for him to get assault rifles and a silencer.
Yeah, and GOD gave him the go ahead on killing people, while he was preaching about people not having guns LIKE HE HAS PURCHASED with ease, sounds perfectly rational to me
Obviously any man going around killing people is not rational, or is it irrational, unrational, nonrational????
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Post subject: Re: ex LAPD officer suspect in shooting
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:41 pm
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hawker84 wrote:
i particularly like the part where he points out all the officers aquitted in the rodney king beating have all been promoted to supervisor positions, that's good to know.. i'd say LAPD and other police departments are a bit corrupt...
Because you were accused (and acquitted) of participating in a high-profile beating, no promotion for you for the next 22 years!
You realize A) they were acquitted, which means whether you think they were guilty or not, it should not count against them in job performance evaluation, and B) 22 years is a long damn time, long enough perhaps for someone to gain enough experience and expertise to achieve a supervisory position.
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Post subject: Re: ex LAPD officer suspect in shooting
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:22 am
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i do realize that Sailor, i also realize their actions were caught on tape... if you're trying to tell me they're innocent of these actions then i'll have to strongly disagree with you.
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I deplore what he has done but have to admit to a slight grin at the officers that are randomly shooting at anything they think remotely looks/sounds like him.
I'm reminded of hunters that routinely take "sound" shots rather than confirm targets before shooting. Kind of like the Kent State shootings. A classic example happened here last year where officers shot at a person out in the open 29 times. Hit him once finally. Never any conversation about where the rest of the rounds went.
Sadly law enforcement still appears to be the "gang that couldn't shoot straight" in their feverish runnings in every direction with little thought given to the consequences. I'd much rather this guy got away for now than any more innocent civilians shot/killed in the line of fire.
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Post subject: Re: ex LAPD officer suspect in shooting
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:08 pm
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Here's a cop story that's should be watched. There are some good cops, but I haven't met too many of them. Skip to about 1:17 to get to his full story.
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Post subject: Re: ex LAPD officer suspect in shooting
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:16 pm
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I haven't met a single bad cop.
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Post subject: Re: ex LAPD officer suspect in shooting
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:31 pm
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Post subject: Re: ex LAPD officer suspect in shooting
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:43 pm
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SonicHawk wrote:
I haven't met a single bad cop.
You haven't met many cops then have you? I have had a few run ins with cops that are "pricks with a badge" to quote a sheriff's deputy I know. These are the guys who were picked on in school and decided to take it out on society because now they have some power.
This guy on the rampage, if, and I mean if, what he is saying is even remotely true, then this is one fucked up situation. This guy could realistically be on the loose for some time, if he lays low and keeps moving, he could drop off the face of the earth for a year or so and then come back and take his remaining targets out. This dude has nothing to lose in his eyes.
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Post subject: Re: ex LAPD officer suspect in shooting
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:45 pm
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OkieHawk wrote:
SonicHawk wrote:
I haven't met a single bad cop.
You haven't met many cops then have you? I have had a few run ins with cops that are "pricks with a badge" to quote a sheriff's deputy I know. These are the guys who were picked on in school and decided to take it out on society because now they have some power.
This guy on the rampage, if, and I mean if, what he is saying is even remotely true, then this is one fucked up situation. This guy could realistically be on the loose for some time, if he lays low and keeps moving, he could drop off the face of the earth for a year or so and then come back and take his remaining targets out. This dude has nothing to lose in his eyes.
That's funny
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Post subject: Re: ex LAPD officer suspect in shooting
Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:37 am
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SilNWest wrote:
Here's a cop story that's should be watched. There are some good cops, but I haven't met too many of them. Skip to about 1:17 to get to his full story.
doesn't suprise me a bit... just watched American Gangster last night again.. true story about Frank Lucas.. his arrest was respsonsible for taking down the entire drug unit on the NYPD back in the 70's... hundreds of crooked cops, did prison time due to him... Back then if you were a straight cop in the NYPD, you were frowned upon, and in some cases fearful for your life.
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Post subject: Re: ex LAPD officer suspect in shooting
Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:45 pm
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OkieHawk wrote:
SonicHawk wrote:
I haven't met a single bad cop.
You haven't met many cops then have you? I have had a few run ins with cops that are "pricks with a badge" to quote a sheriff's deputy I know. These are the guys who were picked on in school and decided to take it out on society because now they have some power.
This guy on the rampage, if, and I mean if, what he is saying is even remotely true, then this is one fucked up situation. This guy could realistically be on the loose for some time, if he lays low and keeps moving, he could drop off the face of the earth for a year or so and then come back and take his remaining targets out. This dude has nothing to lose in his eyes.
Know several cops socially and they seem like great guys.
Would venture that individuals with attitudes and/or questionable activities would bring out the bad in a cop.
Yes, they exist, but with cell phones recording everything, they will be found out.
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Post subject: Re: ex LAPD officer suspect in shooting
Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:40 pm
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I'm not suggesting there aren't bad cops but I would say most situations have a lot to do with the perpetrator and not the cop. They are still humans and don't wanted to be treated like shit from people too.
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Post subject: Re: ex LAPD officer suspect in shooting
Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:04 pm
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SonicHawk wrote:
I'm not suggesting there aren't bad cops but I would say most situations have a lot to do with the perpetrator and not the cop. They are still humans and don't wanted to be treated like shit from people too.
Agreed, but when you are respectful to them and they still read you the riot act because of the way you look...?
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Post subject: Re: ex LAPD officer suspect in shooting
Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:18 pm
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DTexHawk wrote:
OkieHawk wrote:
SonicHawk wrote:
I haven't met a single bad cop.
You haven't met many cops then have you? I have had a few run ins with cops that are "pricks with a badge" to quote a sheriff's deputy I know. These are the guys who were picked on in school and decided to take it out on society because now they have some power.
This guy on the rampage, if, and I mean if, what he is saying is even remotely true, then this is one fucked up situation. This guy could realistically be on the loose for some time, if he lays low and keeps moving, he could drop off the face of the earth for a year or so and then come back and take his remaining targets out. This dude has nothing to lose in his eyes.
Know several cops socially and they seem like great guys.
Would venture that individuals with attitudes and/or questionable activities would bring out the bad in a cop.
Yes, they exist, but with cell phones recording everything, they will be found out.
Yea, my statement that I haven't met too many good cops was mostly in the sense that cops performing their duties tended to be... rude to say the least. I used to work at various restaurants in the airport and I would have quite a few Port of Seattle police officers visit to get to go food, and the majority of them were very friendly and nice guys. They were also all former military. I'm not saying all good cops are former military, but all of the ones I've met have been.
I also had a good experience with a cop when I was pulled over in Renton for having a cracked windshield. The cop noticed I was nervous as fuck and asked me why, so I told him "I have never been in a situation with a cop that ended up being improved because he was there" he told me he was sorry to hear that, ran my license and was very kind and respectful. Every other time I've needed a cop, or have been around them they've been aggressive and uncaring.
The time I was in a small town near Olympia for a concert and a dude got the shit kicked outa him by two dudes out of nowhere. He was just standing at a bus stop (a homeless dude) and 2 guys came out of nowhere and started beating the shit out of him. Me and my buddy yelled at the guys from about a block away and the 2 dudes ran. There were about 3 cops another block down the street at a club and while my friend stayed with the guy I went down and told them. The cop just stared at me when I told him what happened and then said "we'll look into it" without moving or anything. Him and the other cops just stood there. I eventually walked away after talking to the homeless dude and I actually saw the 2 guys who did it about an hour later walking around with their hoods up.
Another time my dad called the cops because a buncha people were outside our house throwing shit and pounding on our door accusing my dad of hitting their daughter. They broke a window and the little window above our door from throwing stuff at the house. The cops came in our house uninvited and arrested my dad in front of me, and he was bailed out from jail by my mom later that day. The charges were dropped because the girl admitted she was lying. They didn't even listen to my dad's side of the story btw, just knocked on the door, came inside and told him he was under arrest. (I was 9) What actually happened was the girl and another boy were in our yard fooling around and my dad caught them and told them to get off his property. We lived in a secluded area with a bunch of trees and stuff.
One time I was catching up with a friend at my college campus at about 9:00pm (his house was a minute away from there and we parked there so we didn't wake up his mom) 2 cop cars showed up and started asking a bunch of questions as to why we were there so late and all this other stuff. (insinuating heavily that we were doing drugs) They ran my plates and license number and then told us to leave despite the fact that we had no obligation to leave the property. (I had asked a professor if it was ok if I slept in my car in the parking lot before and he said it was fine after checking with the front office) I drove back by there later after dropping my friend off and they were searching the area with flashlights to see if I had thrown away some drug paraphernalia or something.
I was also given a field sobriety test after getting into an accident when I was 17, and the cop was as rude as humanly possible and trying to intimidate me and the girl I was with. I didn't cause the accident btw, I had just been slammed into from behind and me and the dude had swapped info and he left while me and my friend just sat there for a bit to collect ourselves and wait for the cops to come (we called them right after the accident because we thought we had too).
I have quite a few other stories but I'll leave it there. Being a cop just seems to breed a power trip, and it takes a REALLY good person to fight that off.
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Post subject: Re: ex LAPD officer suspect in shooting
Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:43 pm
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