Get a load of these douchebags:

Egypt warns giving women some rights could destroy society
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/14/us-women-un-rights-idUSBRE92D1AK20130314

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I fail to see how comparing anything in the US to foreign, conservative, repressive societies lets the GOP off the hook for their stance on these issues, which is just a milder form of what these douchebags (your words, not mine) want.

But, of course, I should expect nothing less from someone who thinks that President Obama is a socialist.

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None of our fucking business!!

Think how many lives, & dollars we've wasted world wide trying to save people that don't want our version of saving.

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THEY GOT A WAY TO SHUT DAT WHOLE THING DOWN DONT WORRY

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In other words...

The GOP: A Milder Version of the Muslim Brotherhood

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Okay, so maybe that pass rush is still an issue. Lather, rinse, repeat.

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Funny you should mention this, and I would tend to agree, Egypt doesn't need us interfering, and that includes the BILLIONS in aid this administration is sending them. Instead of trying to control countries or buy their friendship, we should just cut ties. We are still a world power. If they don't want to play the game, cut 'em off, the money can be used far better here anyway. /end rant

Ummm... I must be missing something, can someone demonstrate how the GOP is trying to hold women back or subjugate them in any way? Honestly asking. thanks.

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Because they don't believe in tax payer funded contraception and abortion.

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Lets try that again..
the GOP has tried to get Roe vs. Wade overturned..since it hasnt been able to it has tried its best to put unreasonable limits on abortions (abortions being LEGAL) -- for example requiring invasive ultrasound procedures that have no medical value before an abortion can be performed, or allowing abortions only up to the 12 week, a time when some women still dont know they are pregnant.

Then, though clearly birth control pills are part of womans health care, Republicans -- often showing a stunning lack of knowledge about how the birth control pill works -- have worked hard to make them not part of a health care package. Not content to merely make a case for why they shouldnt be included, Republicans resulted to name calling and slander (obviously a girl on the pill is a "slut", etc.. those who didnt use the term nevertheless wouldnt contradict the label either).

The GOP has worked to shut down Planned Parenthood wherever it can.. despite the fact that it was the only health care for womens issue many middle and lower income women have access to.

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Ross, can you provide any factual evidence, aside from that of an anecdotal nature? I'm not sure one can simply equate their wanting to shut down planned parenthood as a government-subsidized organization as a direct attack on women's rights, seems more to do with their misguided assumption that government programs like this are sucking money from taxpayers unnecessarily.

Also, did the Republican party take the stance that a woman on the pill is a slut, or are you just assuming that's what they think? I'm honestly not trying to be a dick here, but an awful lot of hearsay and opinion gets tossed around this forum - from both sides of the political spectrum - and passed off as fact.

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Maybe it's just the way you worded it, but you make it sound like they have tried to ban contraceptive coverage. This just is absolutely not true. What they have done is try to block implementing the plan to FORCE it into EVERY policy, including those from religious organizations where birth control is absolutely against their religion.

If you get your insurance through a religious organization, and you have to pay for your own birth control pills or go to a clinic where you can generally get birth control for free, it's not going to really be such a big deal. It's not like they are making birth control illegal here.





As far as planned parenthood goes, they are trying to get government money out of it, if that means it can't afford to go on, then so be it, but that's not the case. They get a lot of funding from private donations and could continue without government aide if necessary. But of course they want to suck from the government teet as much as possible, just like many others. Free money is hard to come by. Personally, I have no issues with planned parenthood, and if they weren't getting tax dollard, I might even be inclined to donate to them, but as long as they are using tax dollars, I probably wouldn't.

When Rush Limbaugh famously called Sandra Fluke a slut and they was in awe of how much money she would need to be on the pill..presumably because he thinks the birth control pills works like a condom and is taken only when having sex.. many high level GOP members were asked to comment. A minority of them, I believe McCain was one.. condemned Limbaughs comments. The majority, including Romney, said something along the lines of "I would have used a different word".

Planned Parenthood is attacked because it provides abortions, and you know it. If it were general cuts then why Planned Parenthood? Why only "family planning" cuts? And this isnt a secret, to curry favor many GOP members going for these cuts made no bones of the fact that the reason they were doing it is that they wanted no money going towards an organization that provided abortions (again, abortion is perfectly legal and state money isnt used for abortions anyway ).

This is all beyond the nonsense the GOP spat out during the second half of the year about how rape victims cant get pregnant, the whole "legit" rape statements, etc.

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“If somebody thinks they're a hedgehog, presumably you just give them a mirror and a few pictures of hedgehogs and tell them to sort it out for themselves.”

I'm sorry, but the whole birth control thing does not compare to the flat-out horror that is being a woman in conservative Islam. Woman are raped and then executed as a willing participant because the courts refuse to weigh their testimony properly.

Women have more rights here than much of the world. Anything trying to compare the GOP's attitude towards anything in the OP article is just intentionally ignorant.

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See, this sounds just like more anecdotes to me. And while anecdotes are a FORM of evidence, they just don't do anything for me in this particular case. If you can show me where the Republican - not Rush Limbaugh - but the Republican platform is one that denigrates and subjugates women and seeks to deny them the same rights as men, I'd be most grateful. thank you.

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So let's see here, planned parenthood takes a lot of government money. Then they adjust their books to show they don't spend it on abortions, but they do provide abortions and they are a government funded agency. How evil is it to stop funding them with government dollars then? Why not just have them privately funded if they want to provide abortions.



The GOP never said anything of the sort. One of two whack jobs said it, but I never have seen one credible bit of evidence that the actual party put this out as truth.

OMG THE OPPRESSION!

Because clearly what we need is more poor women having more babies they can't afford. That way, when they have to turn to a life of crime, CCA has profitable slave labor for the prison camps.

"Taxpayer funded abortion"; about as likely as kindergartners being issued their first firearms. Oh wait, I forgot who I was talking to, I guess you'd probably be in favor of that... My bad!

Liberals; stealing your tax money to fund abortions, contraception, and immoral sex acts, taking your guns, and training your kids grow up gay since time out of mind!

Delusional much? Never mind; I think that's pretty much one I can answer for myself...

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kid.. our government is secular. If government makes policy that you dont like or your religion doesnt like.. you still have to go along with it.
If youre Amish..you dont get to stop paying taxes because some of them will be used to fight our foreign wars. In any case, the Obama admin had already made exceptions that they probably didnt have to make.. and people still were against it.

And the question isnt whether its wrong or right..its what the GOP has done to create the perception its anti women..

I dont need to argue the whether these policies are right or wrong.. what I will argue is that the Republican party spent quite a bit of time last year making sure they looked hostile to women and issues women care about. Im sorry if you dont understand why, or if you think its some media trick.

Ah..and now its the "well thats not GOP official policy!" defense.

Sorry, Im not going to start looking up each and every individual reaction to Limbaughs statements. If you dont believe me, fine. If you think what happened was the Republicans near and far were outraged and called for his head.. cool.

And yes, the GOP doesnt have a platform of standing against women. And so..? When a few whackos make outrageous statements..and its Islamists.. we condemn the moderates for not condemning the wackos. Why dont the Republicans hold themselves to the same standards?

Limbaugh isnt a spokesman for the GOP. But who are his listeners.. and which side of the political aisle panders to him?
You people are arguing in legalese..against a public perception.

What is your impression of the Chinese government? Does it come from reading its constitution and the CCPs platform? Or from their actions, no matter how they justify them?

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“If somebody thinks they're a hedgehog, presumably you just give them a mirror and a few pictures of hedgehogs and tell them to sort it out for themselves.”

No more or less delusional then the claim that the GOP is waging a war on women.

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Show me a single instance of me even hinting at any "war on women". I dare ya, come on now, show me...!

Oh wait, was it a CONSERVATIVE, who used that term..?

I probably would have figured it out first, but I was too busy with my strategy meeting for our local "war on christmas" committee.

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