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Check out the map on the website above! Ever wonder where your income tax dollars go, well look no further. We have brought death and destruction to the whole world. It's great to be American!


If you look at the map, it really looks Iran is surrounded. I wonder if the U.S. will goto war with Iran??????

You say that like it's a bad thing. Personally, I can't wait to see the United States of Earth.

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"Are we rockin' and rollin' or what?!''

-- Seattle coach Pete Carroll, celebrating with his coaches after the Seahawks pulled off a trade with the Jets, netting running back Leon Washington on Saturday, via Seahawks.com

wow that looks expensive.

Nah, were only 16.7 trillion in debt.

It's no thing brah.

They've got an unlimited war chest called Social Security to tap into.

WE GOT THIS

I hear the Ryan budget thinks the best way to decrease the deficit is to increase money we spend on the military

Yes, and decrease the money his rich friends pay in. Less money coming in, more spent on the largest part of the budget = PROSPERITY! Well for his buddies, who fucking cares if you aren't in the top 2% anyway right?!? Those are just the serfs to make it all possible, fuck those guys!

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I love the way 4life always just spews out the same ol' rhetoric as if his keyboard is somehow tied into the liberal think machine.

I'm pretty sure Ryan hasn't said he wants to cut taxes only to the rich. I'm also fairly certain that only one party is going after a single group in so far as taxes are concerned.

Of course why would you care about them right? I mean, you aren't in their bracket, and there's NO WAY the democrats would raise the average guys taxes

I love how you come in and are always right and always know what I'm "spewing".

I have to find it again but it comes from a chart that shows where the tax cuts go. Now I know you are incapable of seeing the truth about Ryan (or most anything else other than Seahawks football apparently), but when I find it I'll post it so the less intellectually challenged among us can see it too.

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Apparently you don't understand mathematics very well. Since the top few percent pay MOST of the total tax, it's quite obvious that they would also get the most benefit from tax BREAKS (or write-offs if you will). This isn't favoritism, although it can certainly be painted as such.

There are plenty of things written into the tax code that help out the rich, but it's not just republicans that have put those in there. Both right and left alike, add cuts to the tax code to help whichever lobby helped get them elected. They call it politics.

The only way you could make things "fair" in both taxes and tax cuts would be to have a flat tax system. Then you could have fair and even tax rates and tax cuts. As long as you charge the rich more for taxes, they will always get the most breaks as well.

Now, to be clear, before someone starts going off on a war path here, I'm not against progressive taxation at all. I just find it hilarious when someone screams for the rich to pay more and more, and that they get the most breaks, while the rich continue to pay the majority of taxes in this country.

And as for "knowing what you are 'spewing'", all I can do is read what you post. What you post is what I'm going by. So, yes, since I read what you spewed through your keyboard and onto the messageboard, I do know what you "spewed". If you want me to know more of your ramblings, please post more. If you want me to know nothing of what you "spew", post nothing.

Yep, he clearly "cares" a lot about the little guy (the millionaires as well as the billionaires)!

As usual, complete bullshit. I give not one shit about fair, I give a shit about getting a middle class back and a healthy one, something Paul Ryan is hell bent on destroying any possibility of it ever happening.

"Path to prosperity" my ass! Prosperity for who?

This article probably deserves it's own thread but I haven't decided yet. Not sure I want to read your assaults on everything I post today.

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Funny, and with all those breaks, they still pay a clear majority of the taxes. Like I said above, you don't understand math if you don't realize that the more you pay, the more breaks you will have. When you pay little to nothing (in the scheme of things) you get little to nothing in breaks. It's not bias, it's mathematics

No it's YOU who doesn't understand math, considering that you seem to think "supply side" economics has any chance of producing prosperity; after how many years of failure now?!?

I get the idea about the more you pay the more you can deduct, but the FACT is that all this tax cutting and spending on irrelevant wars we can't afford put us here, and now we have shitstains like Paul Ryan trying to "fix" it with more of the same.



If you are dumb enough to believe an asswipe like Paul Ryan can help this country recover, there isn't much more to discuss, because you're just quite simply, wrong again.

An article from before the election, spells it out pretty clearly who doesn't understand math (though they actually do understand it they just don't give a fuck as long as it's lining the right folks pockets).



Republican's trickle of piss on all our heads put us where we are, but yet too many of us still buy into the lie obviously.

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Sorry, I didn't meant to speak intelligently about the issue, when in all honesty, all you want to do is rant and rave about someone you dislike because he's a republican.

Please feel free to continue the ranting and raving free of any intellectual input.

No, that's bullshit kidhawk. The math does not add up, but you don't seem to want to even consider that part. Besides, there you go again reading in things that are not there! I have no dislike of you. We disagree on politics and I hate the way you come off always find something to argue about even when you agree with one of the liberal members of the board. It is not personal bat all. I know you seem to like to think that, but get over yourself, you are not that important to me.

Matter of fact, there are two, maybe three posters here I personally dislike and you are not one of them. I like most of the folks here, even many I disagree with vehemently. Only those few I will not name have managed to get me to personally dislike them.

You're just using this as an excuse not to counter the argument, which I guess is fine, since it's pretty clear you're wrong anyway.

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I should have used "gullible" instead of dumb, but either way, if you buy into the Ryan plan, clearly you are ignoring the record of failure of the supply side model.

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Dude, I think you need a little contextual reading lesson. First and foremost here, I am NOT a republican. I am also NOT a democrat. The person you seem to be directing your ranting and raving at, which I alluded to above was the REPUBLICAN PAUL RYAN.

I also never said I was "buying into" anyone's plan. I simply corrected your assumption that there was a bias towards the rich just because they get more tax credits. The fact is, they pay the most in taxes even WITH those credits, so to bitch about them seems kind of pointless.

Secondly, I pointed out how clearly you are upset about the way you perceive republicans to protect the rich and only the rich, when in reality, when it comes to tax rates, the republicans have been staunchly against raising them for any class. Of course when I point out the democrats are waging the war on a single class, you ignore that little piece of information.

Finally, I am not for any of these plans that don't totally overhaul the tax code. I'm tired of having thousands of pages of tax code out there full of loopholes, bought and paid for by high powered lobbyists. I think the tax code needs to a complete rewrite. Just eliminating a few hand picked write offs isn't good enough from either side IMO.

OK, perhaps I missed that. Yes I dislike Ryan because I've watched failed economic policy destroy my country all my life. When I was 10-12 I was on board with Ronald Reagan big time, but I grew up. I remember Reagan because I lived through it and he was not near as conservative, or crazy as the current crop of Republicans. The hero worship he gets is pretty sickening to those of us who see it for what it is, revisionist history.

Paul Ryan is the enemy of prosperity unless you are already prosperous and if guys like him stay in power, you can kiss this nation's sweet ass goodbye, because it will only be a matter of time. Obama is as boguht and paid for as Ryan, he just puts on a better act.

Thing is you're a "conservative" and I'd bet a dollar to a hole in a doughnut you have not voted for anybody with a "D" by there name in a great many years. I bet you'd be shocked if you saw the last ballot I turned in, locally even in non partisan offices I voted red across the board except for one position (Funny how "non partisan" candidates use red and blue signs to tell the real story). If you lived in Port Townsend long enough, knew the players in city and county government, maybe not so much surprised...

I'm not near as liberal as you think, I am just completely on board with "socialized" medicine and environmental protections, so much so it makes me appear more "liberal" than I actually am.

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Well, I've posted it before, and guess I can post it here again....Yes, I am FISCALLY conservative, but I am socially much more liberal...I believe libertarian actually is a much more apt descriptor for this IMO. To continue along with my beliefs, I am pretty much sick of national politics. I agree with a lot of what republicans SAY as far as fiscal policies go, but they rarely ever actually DO what they say. When it comes right down to it, Republicans and Democrats (on a national level) both overspend and both do so with impunity. I honestly think we lose no matter which party is in power. The only thing that keeps us going off the cliff is that each party keeps the other party in check somewhat in hopes to get themselves into power. It's a game of manipulation that gets us nowhere fast. I suppose it's only slightly above where we could end up if one side held complete power.

Locally, I am much more involved and in depth. I read, study and listen to what each candidate has to say. If they are already in office, I scrutinize their actual voting records and what they've done. I vote democrat, I vote republican and I vote independent.

I believe local elections are better suited for the social aspects of politics, and will tend to put more weight on that aspect in local elections (from state elections down to school boards). National politics I feel should be oriented much more towards getting our economy fixed.

Now, I understand that we don't agree on how it should be done, and I wonder if this country will ever come to a consensus on that, but until they get the economy situated, the rest is just blather for now.

So, in conclusion, you lose your bet.