| Author |
Message |
|
bestfightstory
|
Post subject: Seahawks Painted Into Corner Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:17 pm |
|
| * Glitter over Knives * |
 |
 |
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:13 pm Posts: 6446
|
http://seattletimes.com/html/stevekelle ... ley03.html-Steve Kelly "But why, in a season this important, with a defense this dominating, has coach Pete Carroll chosen to go with the rookie Wilson instead of the veteran Matt Flynn, who spent his first four seasons in the Green Bay Packers' sophisticated offense, preparing himself for the opportunity that should have come to him this summer?"
_________________ "Some people here have been groomed to accept mediocrity and lame ducks, I'm on board with the vibrato!" -SouthSoundHawk
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
Cadillac
|
Post subject: Re: Seahawks Painted Into Corner Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:28 pm |
|
| NET Rookie |
 |
 |
Joined: Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:54 am Posts: 195
|
|
Holding a clipboard for four years qualifies one as a veteran?
Enough is enough with the semantics. Both would experience growing pains.
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
The Radish
|
Post subject: Re: Seahawks Painted Into Corner Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:30 pm |
|
| * NET Radish * |
 |
 |
Joined: Tue Feb 27, 2007 8:18 pm Posts: 14189 Location: Spokane, Wa.
|
Cadillac wrote: Holding a clipboard for four years qualifies one as a veteran?
Enough is enough with the semantics. Both would experience growing pains. Yeah, and don't forget the "should" part.  BTW I don't think the Seahawks are painted into a corner. I think Seahawks fan might be tho.
_________________  Still missing you everyday pal.
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
JSeahawks
|
Post subject: Re: Seahawks Painted Into Corner Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:30 pm |
|
| * NET Moderator * |
 |
 |
Joined: Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:35 pm Posts: 15442 Location: Milwaukie, Oregon
|
|
Theyre only painted into a corner if they're listening to the fans and media, which i sincerely hope they are not.
_________________ 
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
MysterMatt
|
Post subject: Re: Seahawks Painted Into Corner Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:32 pm |
|
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:12 am Posts: 5987
|
|
I love that Pete doesn't care about conventional wisdom all the time, but sometimes I think he ignores it for unsound reasons. I've no idea what the decision making process was in preseason, or if this phantom elbow injury of Flynn's (if it exists) played a factor, but I can appreciate that Wilson looked good with his opportunities. All I can also say is that, since we're all about excuses, Flynn didn't have Marshawn, the line was still in a bit of flux, and several starting receivers were also out.
My point? I'm not sure that I have one, other than to say that I am beginning to think that Pete fell in love with the idea of Wilson (like many of us!) instead of focusing on who would give us our better chance to win now.
But hey, what do I know? If Wilson played just a teensy bit better at the end of two games we wouldn't be having this discussion.
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
Seahawk Sailor
|
Post subject: Re: Seahawks Painted Into Corner Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:32 pm |
|
| * Navy Badass * |
 |
 |
Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:23 am Posts: 16283 Location: Bothell
|
JSeahawks wrote: Theyre only painted into a corner if they're listening to the fans and media, which i sincerely hope they are not. Bingo.
_________________ I blog, I tweet. When I'm not writing or goofing around on Seahawks.NET.
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
grizbob
|
Post subject: Re: Seahawks Painted Into Corner Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:35 pm |
|
Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:17 am Posts: 1684 Location: St George, UT
|
You're painted into a corner only if you're afraid of making footprints. 
_________________ Why is it when I try to come off as a smart ass, the opposite happens? :-(
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
Basis4day
|
Post subject: Re: Seahawks Painted Into Corner Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:37 pm |
|
| NET Veteran |
 |
 |
Joined: Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:57 am Posts: 1289
|
Quote: It certainly can be argued that the Hawks would have beaten Arizona in the opener. And it is likely Flynn wouldn't have made the same mistakes the rookie made Sunday in St. Louis. I'll never understand statements like these. Complete hindsight bias. The fact is we'll never know what Flynn would have done. He could be the best QB ever, or the worst. We just don't know, we'll never know, and these kind of arguments are best saved for drunks and fanatics on a message board. 
_________________ Give me some damn skittles...
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
SeahawksRawk
|
Post subject: Re: Seahawks Painted Into Corner Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:39 pm |
|
Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:44 am Posts: 206 Location: ALa-FRICKIN-Bama GET ME OUT OF HERE!
|
Cadillac wrote: Holding a clipboard for four years qualifies one as a veteran?
Enough is enough with the semantics. Both would experience growing pains. Exactly. We need to go no farther than our own team to prove this point. Refer to our Clip Board Jesus. If holding a clip board for many years is the key he should have been the 2nd comming of Joe Montana/Johny U and every other qb Master that has ever played.
_________________ The Seahawk Domination is close at hand!
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
Shane Falco
|
Post subject: Re: Seahawks Painted Into Corner Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:44 pm |
|
| NET Veteran |
 |
 |
Joined: Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:09 pm Posts: 702 Location: Puyallup, WA
|
|
I think Kelley is a joke of a sports writer and his knowledge of sports in general but aside from calling Flynn a veteran I actually agree that they should have started Flynn to begin the season. I did fall into the hype of how ready RW was and took the coaching staff's word for it and am second guessing now. I just don't see how Flynn could have been any less advanced than what Wilson has shown and am of the opinion that those years watching, practicing and learning had to have accounted for something more than being a straight up rookie from college. We heard alot about how well Flynn could read defenses and his decision making process until we drafted Wilson. Now all that's out the window?
Now I think this whole decision was based on going with who they thought was going to be the guy long term and just starting that process now and taking the lumps now as opposed to later. And there is a valid argument I think for each side on this thing. I'd prefer they would have started Flynn myself.
I don't know why this situation is so touchy between fans though. Why can't we feel like Flynn should be starting or RW should be starting? I don't give a shit if someone else thinks we should be starting RW and sticking it out with him. I can understand that too.
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
bestfightstory
|
Post subject: Re: Seahawks Painted Into Corner Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:47 pm |
|
| * Glitter over Knives * |
 |
 |
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:13 pm Posts: 6446
|
|
Technically, once you are past your rookie year you are a veteran. Jesus you guys.
_________________ "Some people here have been groomed to accept mediocrity and lame ducks, I'm on board with the vibrato!" -SouthSoundHawk
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
Happypuppy
|
Post subject: Re: Seahawks Painted Into Corner Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:48 pm |
|
| NET Veteran |
 |
 |
Joined: Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:40 pm Posts: 1051
|
|
The Hawks just need to do what they truly believe is the best for the team. When people were crying for CW they stood fast. If they believe that Wilson gives them the best chance to win this year I am all for it.
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
v1rotv2
|
Post subject: Re: Seahawks Painted Into Corner Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:55 pm |
|
Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:32 am Posts: 3055 Location: Black Diamond, WA.
|
|
Could someone please explain to me how your painted into a corner with a 2-2 record and 3/4 of the season to go? Do we have a few things to figure out? Yeah! It's more like being painted into the middle of an auditorium. We have time to get it corrected.
Kelly has always been a drama queen.
_________________ ...the cockpit is quiet, the stars are bright, it kinda feels like church in here tonight....
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
Shane Falco
|
Post subject: Re: Seahawks Painted Into Corner Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:18 pm |
|
| NET Veteran |
 |
 |
Joined: Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:09 pm Posts: 702 Location: Puyallup, WA
|
|
Well I'd much rather be 2-2 and 2-0 in the division. Starting 0-2 in the division is a hole/corner.
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
xCalibur
|
Post subject: Re: Seahawks Painted Into Corner Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:19 pm |
|
| NET Rookie |
 |
 |
Joined: Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:29 pm Posts: 150 Location: Santa Barbara
|
|
Wow, The Wilsonites love to place Flynn in that Charlie "clipboard jesus" box everytime they can't think of a good reason why Flynn isn't the starter. Until i see Wilson throw 4 or more TD's in a shoot out like Flynn has done and still come away with that win, i will consider Flynn the best guy for the job right now. If you want to be technical just being in the league for 4 yrs will make you a veteran QB. Not to mention starting 2 games and doing very well in those games. He had more yards and td's, less int's in those two games he has played then Wilson has in 4 games. I think he lost the job because in the preseason he was far to conservative, like he thought if he didn't make mistakes he would easily win the job. He didn't go after it like he should have. Now i know if he had to do it all over again he would have gone all out and clearly won that job. I really like Wilson, he has talent, but i really think Flynn would have won at least one of the games we have lost. When Flynn gets his chance, it will be night and day. He will destroy the team we play that week, i just know it. Wilson in my opinion is not the right QB for this system. They are asking him to sit in the pocket and makes things happen, but in the pocket his vision is not going to be there like flynn's would. He is just to small to see the entire field if he stays in the pocket. So your choices are chance the system to suit Wilson, or continue to destroy Wilson's career while at the same time destroying Flynn's career by holding him back. Just my opinion, that it for what it is worth
_________________ Steve Largent is greatest Seahawk WR of all time
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
Hasselbeck
|
Post subject: Re: Seahawks Painted Into Corner Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:23 pm |
|
| * NET Sage * |
 |
 |
Joined: Sat May 02, 2009 4:55 pm Posts: 2670
|
SeahawksRawk wrote: Cadillac wrote: Holding a clipboard for four years qualifies one as a veteran?
Enough is enough with the semantics. Both would experience growing pains. Exactly. We need to go no farther than our own team to prove this point. Refer to our Clip Board Jesus. If holding a clip board for many years is the key he should have been the 2nd comming of Joe Montana/Johny U and every other qb Master that has ever played. Having a problem finding that game Charlie Whitehurst threw for 480 and 6...
_________________ Seahawks vs. TBD - Super Bowl 48 - February 2, 2014
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
chris98251
|
Post subject: Re: Seahawks Painted Into Corner Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:29 pm |
|
| NET Veteran |
 |
 |
Joined: Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:52 pm Posts: 6144 Location: Renton Wa.
|
|
Anyone that starts a rookie QB can't be expected to be a true contender unless the red sea parts, not painted into a corner, more of not living up to the pre season hype and going through the typical growing pains of an inexpereinced QB learning his job.
_________________  To Be P/C or Not P/C That is the Question................Seahawks kick Ass !!!! Used to be an Alumni till they pulled a USC on me... .Net official Clueless, Dumbass, Douche, Simpleton, CensoredTard , and Idiot.
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
jkitsune
|
Post subject: Re: Seahawks Painted Into Corner Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:00 pm |
|
| NET Veteran |
 |
 |
Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:12 pm Posts: 1503
|
|
LOL. "Veteran" Matt Flynn? Dude has been a backup for 4 years and starts 2 games and he's a "veteran?" He's every bit as unproven as Wilson at this point. And everyone focuses on whether he would have won one of those two lost games. But would he have lost won of the two games we won? Would we have beaten Green Bay with Matt Flynn at QB? How do we even know? How does anyone feel like they can say with any certainty how Flynn would perform? He had a great game that one time. He really did. But small sample sizes are small. They fluctuate wildly. Remember when Willie Bloomquist had an incredible September? Yes, I know, it's baseball, but the point stands.
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
rainger
|
Post subject: Re: Seahawks Painted Into Corner Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:02 pm |
|
| NET Veteran |
 |
 |
Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:32 am Posts: 1185 Location: Victoria BC
|
Seahawk Sailor wrote: JSeahawks wrote: Theyre only painted into a corner if they're listening to the fans and media, which i sincerely hope they are not. Bingo. Or they are listening to bestfightstory and he hopes they are
_________________ Seahawks + PC/JS + Russell Wilson + Jesse Williams = Superbowl
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
Scottemojo
|
Post subject: Re: Seahawks Painted Into Corner Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:07 pm |
|
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:14 am Posts: 7344
|
|
Everybody knows more than coaches, and the backup always shits golden eggs. 2nd oldest story in sports. The oldest story in sports has to do with naked Greek wrestlers. Maybe another time.
_________________ SEAHAWKS.NET. We All We Got, We All We Need
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
Users browsing this forum: 400WattHPSHawk, Ad Hawk, BirdsCommaAngry, Blitzer88, BullHawk33, dbmack, HawkAroundTheClock, Hawks46, JimZorn10, JKent82, noflyzone, purpleworld, RynoHawk, SmokinHawk, SoulfishHawk, sutz, SweTard, SwissSeahawk, TwilightError, uncle fester, YaktownHawK and 61 guests |
| |
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot post attachments in this forum
|
 |