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 Post subject: Where's the fine for Major Wright?
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Blow to the head on Sidney should be at least 20k

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Won't happen. Bears are one of Goodell's protected golden children (Giants, Cowboys, Steelers, Packers, etc.).

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 Post subject: Re: Where's the fine for Major Wright?
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Blow to the head on Sidney should be at least 20k

wont happen dont hold your breath. The NFL only fine players on teams that hurt their precious teams or people on the precious teams that they cannot get away with becuase of outrage.

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Won't happen. Bears are one of Goodell's protected golden children (Giants, Cowboys, Steelers, Packers, etc.).


Oh, I wouldn't count the Steelers amongst those teams.

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 Post subject: Re: Where's the fine for Major Wright?
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It wasn't a fine-able offense.

Rice made a football move and went to the ground on his own, head first. He wasn't defenseless. It's similar to a RB diving headfirst for a first down, and a guy hitting him in the head with his shoulder pad.

There was no helmet to helmet, Wright led with his shoulder pad and was aiming at the ball until Rice went headfirst into the end zone.

I'm just glad Rice is ok. With that hit, it looks like he's going to stay more durable than the last 2 years, which is good.


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 Post subject: Re: Where's the fine for Major Wright?
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He wasn't a defenseless receiver, so I don't think there is any penalty, as he changed into a runner. Wright was just trying to improbably keep Rice out of the endzone, and almost succeeded.

Seriously guys, if Wright gets fined for that, football really goes down a notch in physicality. Some things won't change, or at least shouldn't change for a while longer.


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 Post subject: Re: Where's the fine for Major Wright?
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Oh god, does everyone have to be such a homer around here all the time? Yes it was a brutal hit but on replays you can clearly see Rice lowered his head into Wrights shoulder. He put his body on the line to get into the endzone and got hurt in the process.


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It was a game winning TD. AND Sid is fine........the fine is to the bears loss column.....hahahahaha

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 Post subject: Re: Where's the fine for Major Wright?
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I don't think he will or should be fined, but it does amaze me that he won't get fined for this and Earl Thomas got fined for...whatever that was.

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 Post subject: Re: Where's the fine for Major Wright?
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If Wright got fined for that, it would piss me off almost as much as Tate's block against Dallas.


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 Post subject: Re: Where's the fine for Major Wright?
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I don't think he will or should be fined, but it does amaze me that he won't get fined for this and Earl Thomas got fined for...whatever that was.


Yeah, neither should've been fined IMO. they both weren't trying to hurt, just trying to win the game for the team. Earl should've succeeded too, if it weren't for that bogus penalty. UGh.


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 Post subject: Re: Where's the fine for Major Wright?
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You cant sit there and tell me that if Browner hit a receiver like that, he wouldnt get fined


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 Post subject: Re: Where's the fine for Major Wright?
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ivotuk wrote:
Blow to the head on Sidney should be at least 20k



if they ever start to fine players for playing the game ( which is what you are looking for ) then the game will forever be ruined.

its already horrible that they fine players who hit Qbs and defensless recievers , but you want running backs and people running the ball to have the same protection?? that is ridiculous and soft.
I hope many people feel the same way I do or my favorite sport will eventually be ruined.


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 Post subject: Re: Where's the fine for Major Wright?
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I thought the purpose of the new rules and all the fines was to prevent head injuries. They've been calling it reaally tight this year and I've seen similar hits get fined. I thought the inital fine against Ed Reed was excessive, but if that's what they are doing, they should do a better job of protecting players from blows to the head.

The hit was unneccesary, hr used his elbow and it was too late to prevent the TD. I guess the worst thing about their new approach is that there is no consistency.

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 Post subject: Re: Where's the fine for Major Wright?
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ivotuk wrote:
I guess the worst thing about their new approach is that there is no consistency.

That is definitely true.

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 Post subject: Re: Where's the fine for Major Wright?
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You cant sit there and tell me that if Browner hit a receiver like that, he wouldnt get fined


No, the real answer is, you can't sit there and tell me that if Browner hit a receiver like that, he would get fined.

I didn't see a problem with the hit, and I think the only reason we really see a problem with it is because Rice looked to be injured. I was pretty mad at first when I saw Rice flop to the ground, but I still never saw a problem with the hit. I must not have watched close enough or something, but I think it's gotta be pretty blatantly obvious to be fine able.


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 Post subject: Re: Where's the fine for Major Wright?
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Nothing wrong with that hit by Wright. It was bang-bang between Rice crossing the goalline and Wright trying to keep him out. Rice, by going low also changed his target far too quickly for Wright to react. If Wright had been fined for that I'd be pissed. This is football. Good effort by Wright, better play by Rice.


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 Post subject: Re: Where's the fine for Major Wright?
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Pstark3 wrote:
You cant sit there and tell me that if Browner hit a receiver like that, he wouldnt get fined


We'll never know, but it doesn't really matter. If it did happen to Browner we'd be pissed and we'd be right. It doesn't change just because it was another team's player. He was literally inches from causing a game-saving fumble.


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 Post subject: Re: Where's the fine for Major Wright?
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according to the new rules any blow to the head is a penalty and fine-able offense, I don't know what people are so confused about. it was a blow to the head.


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 Post subject: Re: Where's the fine for Major Wright?
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bellingerga wrote:
according to the new rules any blow to the head is a penalty and fine-able offense, I don't know what people are so confused about. it was a blow to the head.


How about the fact that Sidney lowered his head into Wrights shoulder? :|


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 Post subject: Re: Where's the fine for Major Wright?
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bellingerga wrote:
according to the new rules any blow to the head is a penalty and fine-able offense, I don't know what people are so confused about. it was a blow to the head.



Find me one defensive player who has been fined for hitting a runningback in the head. thats right you cant. because when a player is running with the football he can be tackled anyway possible besides from the horsecollar or facemask.

It was indeed a blow to the head , but a blow to the head that was intiated by Sidney rice himself.


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Come on!! We've got to be better than this, we've just got to be. We've had a team since 1976, we don't have that excuse anymore! Figure it out already Hawks fans (I know full well that most of you deciphered the rule correctly).

Every time a player puts his head in danger and gets a concussion doesn't mean there is a conspiracy against our players and our team. FIgure it out!

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 Post subject: Re: Where's the fine for Major Wright?
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It's only Tuesday. I am sure he will get fined by the end of the week. The guy lowered his shoulder and targeted the back of Rice's head.

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 Post subject: Re: Where's the fine for Major Wright?
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Pstark3 wrote:
You cant sit there and tell me that if Browner hit a receiver like that, he wouldnt get fined


Pretty sure he blew up Wes Welker in a fairly similar manner and didn't get fined.


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 Post subject: Re: Where's the fine for Major Wright?
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As stated, Rice went low. It would have been impossible to tackle him in any other manner then he did. I would hate to see Wright fined cause that is the league plainly stating that any big hit, despite how clean, is a potential fine.


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Navyhawkfan187 wrote:
Pstark3 wrote:
You cant sit there and tell me that if Browner hit a receiver like that, he wouldnt get fined


Pretty sure he blew up Wes Welker in a fairly similar manner and didn't get fined.


Not even close. That was a clean hit.

I'm pretty sure that the NFL is focusing on blows to the head, but the consistency for penalties and fines is not consistent. Like the BS fine to Earl Thomas described as both a blow to the head and roughing the passer. Then there are the 'Defenseless Receiver" penalties which they called on Ed Reed and which I thought was pretty ticky tack.

But I have seen calls for "blows to the head" no matter what the offensive player was doing. They expect the defender to be able to avoid those kinds of hits. Hence the jokes about ET practicing Matrix moves.

They came up with these new ideas to prevent concussions but they have yet to solidify definitions such as the difference between and inadvertant blow to the head and a purposeful blow to the head. Then there is the inconsistency with protecting the QB where they have called taps to the QBs head when they ducked.

It is my humble opinion that they need to have a stipulation where a blow to the head must appear to be intentional and if it appears that the defender attempted to avoid it or by any reasonable standard was unable to avoid, they should not call it.

I just want consistency. There have been too many ticky tack calls and too many one-sided flag-fests where one team gets the majority of them.

For example, I disagreed with the roughing the passer on Alan Branch, there was no way to avoid making contact and there was nothing malicious about it. On the holding call against Okung, the announcers said Russell got clobbered, I didn't see the whole thing but from the partial replay, it didn't look bad to me. But again, I didn't see the whole thing. Either way, they are getting too flag happy with the roughing the passer calls and getting face-time on TV. Pretty Bogus.

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 Post subject: Re: Where's the fine for Major Wright?
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Once a WR catches the ball and makes a "football move" he is no longer a "defenseless player" and he is treated as a HB for all intents and purposes, same with a QB who escapes the pocket and gets over the LOS, he is now a HB as far as a "blow to the head" is concerned. That's the way it is. Like it or not...thats how its going to be. As long as a QB is behind the LOS if you breath too hard on his helmet you risk getting flagged, if a WR is still in the process of the catch and you tap him too hard in the shoulder causing his head to come back and hit you, you risk getting flagged. If a WR turns up field with the ball and dives for the EZ while you're diving to try and stop him, well all's fair in that instance.


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Oh god, does everyone have to be such a homer around here all the time? Yes it was a brutal hit but on replays you can clearly see Rice lowered his head into Wrights shoulder. He put his body on the line to get into the endzone and got hurt in the process.


Do you have to call out everyone for being homers all the time?

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