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 Post subject: Players that were better last year
 Post Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:29 pm 
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In the midst all the excitement of the Bears win, and the playoff possibilities, I am quietly baffled by the performances of a few players that were playing awesome last year.

Red Bryant - It might just be because what I remember most was his amazing blocked kicks last year. Really if thats the only reason its nothing to fault him for, but he also just doesn't seem to be having the same impact as last year. I think he is a big reason why we are good at stopping the run, when we're good at stopping the run. Maybe this foot issue is a bigger deal than they are letting on? The Red Bryant I remember was a pass batting, run smashing, kick blocking, pick-6 fatman touchdown grabbing monster.

Doug Baldwin - This isn't meant to be a knock on Doug, and I know he is making a bit of a come back. I know its largely injury related, but he was a star last year. Kinda seems like Golden took over that role which i'm fine with. Hope he comes back to what he was, his performance in the Bears game was a good sign.

Steven Hauschka - He has missed 3 field goals this year. That might not sound that bad out of 19 attempts. That puts him at 16th among kickers for percentage made, middle of the pack, fine. But the real story I think is the kicks he never tried. He is 27th for field goals attempted, and I am suggesting this is because of Pete's (lack of) confidence in him. He made my list because I distinctly recall him being very reliable last year. I looked at his stats for last year, and they are only marginally better but still - something just doesn't feel right about him. Will we see a kicker drafted in the 6th/7th round to compete with Steven?

Earl Thomas - Earl was a pro-bowler and earned it. He is still a very good player. At least, that's what I keep telling myself after I see Jay Cutler juke his socks off. It was acceptable when Adrian Peterson did the same thing to him, but Jay Cutler? Maybe you can excuse that as him reacting to his BS penalty in the game before. Still, Earl seems a step back from last year and I don't really understand why. He is still a top-tier safety, but to my layman eyes it looks like he has missed quite a few tackles this season, and that's not good. He still seems just as FAST though. Ask Tannehill about that one.

Breno Giocamini - Oh Breno. Is your tiny helmet squeezing the blood out of your brain? Penalties. Penalties. Penalties. I believe someone had an entire post that was much more intelligent than anything I could come up with, so I won't go into detail other than to say I am highly dissapointed after I thought he came in as a backup last year and truly earned his starting spot. Why doesn't this guy get the simple stuff?

Other Mentions (I am to the point in the list where I don't want to put as much effort in and am trying to make it look like its by design. And, these guys weren't really playing awesome last year either, just worse than before)

Leroy Hill - This one is easy. He is another year older, another half step slower. Hes still a solid backup but time to hang it up as a starter.

Marcus Trufant - See Leroy Hill. Except, I think Trufant needs to hang it up all together. Love you Tru, business is business.

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 Post subject: Re: Players that were better last year
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Kam Chancellor. He's not in the right place at the right time for coverage. Does he even have any pass breakups this year ?

He's whiffing on a lot more tackles. He went for the home run against Forte, took a bad angle, and slipped down. Forte went for about 20 on that play. He's not run filling the same as he was, and he just seems a few steps slower. I really hope this changes.

I think he knows he's lagging, and he is pressing a lot more, which is making it harder for him.


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Kam had a great day in run support despite that slip and dropping a pick. His pass coverage hasn't been so good tho.

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 Post subject: Re: Players that were better last year
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Good point on Earl and Kam.

Point being, we actually have very few players getting worse than better. One of the great things about being a young team.


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I'm betting some of those guys are playing injured and just not telling anyone.

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Kam Chancellor. He's not in the right place at the right time for coverage. Does he even have any pass breakups this year ?

He's whiffing on a lot more tackles. He went for the home run against Forte, took a bad angle, and slipped down. Forte went for about 20 on that play. He's not run filling the same as he was, and he just seems a few steps slower. I really hope this changes.

I think he knows he's lagging, and he is pressing a lot more, which is making it harder for him.

This...ET beens great in coverage. He's missed some tackles and dropped some INTs but I think he's been fine.


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 Post subject: Re: Players that were better last year
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Marshawn...now before I get killed, he's been awesome this year. He just haven't had many of those big homerun runs as last year. That is all.


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Marshawn had a career long 77 yard TD against the Lions...where have you been?

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SacHawk2.0 wrote:
Marshawn had a career long 77 yard TD against the Lions...where have you been?


Refer to the part that I said "many of those big homerun runs". I'm well aware of the 77 yarder. Like I said, he's been awesome this year.


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SacHawk2.0 wrote:
Marshawn had a career long 77 yard TD against the Lions...where have you been?


Refer to the part that I said "many of those big homerun runs". I'm well aware of the 77 yarder. Like I said, he's been awesome this year.


Then you may be incorrect

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-The Glove- wrote:
Marshawn...now before I get killed, he's been awesome this year. He just haven't had many of those big homerun runs as last year. That is all.


I'll agree with you. He is certainly not matching the unbelievable pace he set the 2nd half of last year.

With that said, his pace right now is just fine for me. I'll take it.


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Tech Worlds wrote:
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Marshawn had a career long 77 yard TD against the Lions...where have you been?


Refer to the part that I said "many of those big homerun runs". I'm well aware of the 77 yarder. Like I said, he's been awesome this year.


Then you may be incorrect


And about Thomas.

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 Post subject: Re: Players that were better last year
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-The Glove- wrote:
Marshawn...now before I get killed, he's been awesome this year. He just haven't had many of those big homerun runs as last year. That is all.


Guess it depends what you consider a "homerun" but Lynch already has as many 20+ yard runs this year as he had last year, and theres still 4 games left.

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...and Red. Stats don't mean good plays. We suck against the run, but it hasn't been to his side. It has been up the middle and to Clems side.


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...and Red. Stats don't mean good plays. We suck against the run, but it hasn't been to his side. It has been up the middle and to Clems side.


Right but regardless Red just doesn't seam to be running around pissing lightning and crapping thunder like last year.

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Marshawn...now before I get killed, he's been awesome this year. He just haven't had many of those big homerun runs as last year. That is all.


Guess it depends what you consider a "homerun" but Lynch already has as many 20+ yard runs this year as he had last year, and theres still 4 games left.


Lynch essentially got all of those "homeruns" in the last half of the year though.


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ensett wrote:
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Marshawn...now before I get killed, he's been awesome this year. He just haven't had many of those big homerun runs as last year. That is all.


Guess it depends what you consider a "homerun" but Lynch already has as many 20+ yard runs this year as he had last year, and theres still 4 games left.


Lynch essentially got all of those "homeruns" in the last half of the year though.


Had most of his yards in the last half, but he only had 2 runs over 20 yards after week 8.

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Marshawn...now before I get killed, he's been awesome this year. He just haven't had many of those big homerun runs as last year. That is all.[/quote

I'll agree with you. He is certainly not matching the unbelievable pace he set the 2nd half of last year.

With that said, his pace right now is just fine for me. I'll take it.


Well in fairness, yes we beat up the Ravens last year, but can you remember the second half of our schedule?

Rams x 2
Cardinals
49ers
Eagles
Redskins
Bears

Although the Bears looks like a tough game on paper, anyone that watched it knows they were just shocking that day. I'd expect Lynch to have success running against those teams - I think our O-Line blocked better towards the end of last year too.
Certainly, 9 of the teams we've faced are in the top 20 in rushing defense (4 in the top 10), so it's not been the easiest schedule in terms of rushing D


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Why even mention Marshawn if you deem him "awesome"?

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Regarding Baldwin, remember that his performance last year had plenty to do with the fact that Rice couldn't stay on the field, so his opportunities were up. This season, Rice has stayed healthy and Baldwin's been injured. The math is pretty clear.

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Why even mention Marshawn if you deem him "awesome"?


Because the thread is about "Players that were better last year"?

I'm pretty sure the poster that mentioned Thomas still deems him "awesome".


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Tech Worlds wrote:
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Marshawn had a career long 77 yard TD against the Lions...where have you been?


Refer to the part that I said "many of those big homerun runs". I'm well aware of the 77 yarder. Like I said, he's been awesome this year.


Well boy am I glad you're always there to point that out to me!


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Marshawn...now before I get killed, he's been awesome this year. He just haven't had many of those big homerun runs as last year. That is all.


I'll agree with you. He is certainly not matching the unbelievable pace he set the 2nd half of last year.

With that said, his pace right now is just fine for me. I'll take it.

Yeah, I don't have a problem with his pace at all. Never said he was having an off year or anything. He's been grinding out the yards all season. Last year just had more memorable runs.

Also last year he had 12TDs, 63 1st downs, 3 fumbles, 1238 YDS 4.2avg on 285 att. With 28 receptions for 212 YDS and 1 TD.

This year he's at 6 TDs, 49 1st downs, 4 fumbles, 1138 YDS 4.6 avg on 250 att. With 18 receptions for 139 YDS and 0 TD's.


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Marshawn...now before I get killed, he's been awesome this year. He just haven't had many of those big homerun runs as last year. That is all.


I'll agree with you. He is certainly not matching the unbelievable pace he set the 2nd half of last year.

With that said, his pace right now is just fine for me. I'll take it.

Yeah, I don't have a problem with his pace at all. Never said he was having an off year or anything. He's been grinding out the yards all season. Last year just had more memorable runs.

Also last year he had 12TDs, 63 1st downs, 3 fumbles, 1238 YDS 4.2avg on 285 att. With 28 receptions for 212 YDS and 1 TD.

This year he's at 6 TDs, 49 1st downs, 4 fumbles, 1138 YDS 4.6 avg on 250 att. With 18 receptions for 139 YDS and 0 TD's.



Could be the lack of TD's. The only reason that seems to be happening though is because Wilson picks up the slack, or leaves Lynch no slack when it comes to the red zone.


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...and Red. Stats don't mean good plays. We suck against the run, but it hasn't been to his side. It has been up the middle and to Clems side.


Right but regardless Red just doesn't seam to be running around pissing lightning and crapping thunder like last year.


Red is injured and Clem got paid.

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Put me down for ET too when it comes to tackling. WAY too many whiffs this year.

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