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Awesome! Assuming it does happen next year, we will have Browner so the hit won't be as rough


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I don't know much about defensive formations. With Thurmond looking awesome last year and in his first duty back, and now that we'll have Browner and Sherman for the playoffs, does this mean we could use Thurmond on slot receivers, the one weakness our pass defense seems to have?


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Let's not get ahead of ourselves, here. I see a lot of "ifs" and "coulds" in there. I'm hopeful this is good news, but I'll believe it when it happens.

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This is EXACTLY what I think they were shooting for. This means that no matter what, we will have two very good starting CB's during the suspensions. Thurmond is just fine starting for either of them. This news just made me happier than the Cardinal butt kicking

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Let's not get ahead of ourselves, here. I see a lot of "ifs" and "coulds" in there. I'm hopeful this is good news, but I'll believe it when it happens.

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You had me for a minute. I was like "holy sh*t, Superbowl !"

This article doesn't say anything different. It says "the expectation is that it will be pushed back to next year"

I'm stoked, but nothing concrete yet.


So, now my question is, why didn't Browner go this route ? Hell we wouldn't have lost either CB !


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So, now my question is, why didn't Browner go this route ? Hell we wouldn't have lost either CB !



We do not know how much input our Front Office had on this decision.


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Oh I agree, Browner dropping that appeal had the FO's hands all over it. Browner really has to trust them to do that for them. I wonder if informal contract extension talks have already commenced ?


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First off let me say that I'm as pumped and jacked about a good young Seahawks team as anyone.

That being said, maybe I'm way off but how many people here think Sherman has been falsely accused and has a legit appeal vs him and the 'Hawks working the system to stagger the suspensions. Browner seems to have accepted his guilt.

There is a reason why this stuff is banned. Have a google of 'Adderall dangerous side effects'. If some guys get away with it, then more guys will get away with it, and eventually virtually everyone in the league will have to keep up with the joneses. Worst though would be the pressure on up-and-coming-kids to keep up, most of whom will never see the NFL.

If he's guilty the thing to do man up about it. A public apology would be a good start (perhaps I missed it but I didn't hear one from Browner?). If he's guilty I think it's lame to work the appeal system and pretend otherwise.


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First off let me say that I'm as pumped and jacked about a good young Seahawks team as anyone.

That being said, maybe I'm way off but how many people here think Sherman has been falsely accused and has a legit appeal vs him and the 'Hawks working the system to stagger the suspensions. Browner seems to have accepted his guilt.

There is a reason why this stuff is banned. Have a google of 'Adderall dangerous side effects'. If some guys get away with it, then more guys will get away with it, and eventually virtually everyone in the league will have to keep up with the joneses. Worst though would be the pressure on up-and-coming-kids to keep up, most of whom will never see the NFL.

If he's guilty the thing to do man up about it. A public apology would be a good start (perhaps I missed it but I didn't hear one from Browner?). If he's guilty I think it's lame to work the appeal system and pretend otherwise.


I just want him on the field. I don't want him to cheat but what's done is done.

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I just want him on the field. I don't want him to cheat but what's done is done.



Principled. What would you think if he were a 49er?


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So he's still All-NFL 1st team/Pro bowl eligible?

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I just want him on the field. I don't want him to cheat but what's done is done.



Principled. What would you think if he were a 49er?


If Richard Sherman were a 49er I'd want him as far away from the field as possible.

I don't believe Richard Sherman is a cheater. If he made a mistake then that's what it is. But I don't know him as a person so who knows.

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If he made a mistake then that's what it is. But I don't know him as a person so who knows.


If he made a legit mistake fine, I think he should own up to it. Not make up contradictory excuses.


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I don't believe Richard Sherman is a cheater. If he made a mistake then that's what it is. But I don't know him as a person so who knows.


He doesn't look like a donut thief to me! ;)


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If he made a mistake then that's what it is. But I don't know him as a person so who knows.


If he made a legit mistake fine, I think he should own up to it. Not make up contradictory excuses.


I have absolutely no problem with them, from within the rules, using the system and the process to their best advantage. It's not my fault, as a paying fan, a customer, that this happened. Why should I be made to suffer for it? I want Richard Sherman on the field, especially as we make our push into the post season.

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Why should I be made to suffer for it?


If a key player committed murder and went to jail would you ask the same question? If no, where do you draw the line? Somewhere between dog fighting and steroids?


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Why should I be made to suffer for it?


If a key player committed murder and went to jail would you ask the same question? If no, where do you draw the line? Somewhere between dog fighting and steroids?


Let's not be silly. If he tested positive for Adderall and is going to be suspended for 4 games but has the ability to push that suspension to next season then I'm all for it. And if he didn't take Addreall then he has every right to try to prove his case.

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Why should I be made to suffer for it?


If a key player committed murder and went to jail would you ask the same question? If no, where do you draw the line? Somewhere between dog fighting and steroids?



The good old Murder comparison :roll: were talking prescription drug here people not Murder, DUI, Sexual Assault.

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Why should I be made to suffer for it?


If a key player committed murder and went to jail would you ask the same question? If no, where do you draw the line? Somewhere between dog fighting and steroids?



The good old Murder comparison :roll: were talking prescription drug here people not Murder, DUI, Sexual Assault.



The point of going to that extreme was to illustrate that there has to be a line to cross. But alright then, let me ask: if Browner & Sherman were 49ers, working the system to stagger the suspensions would be all good, no complaints? Also, no admission of wrong-doing necessary?


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The point of going to that extreme was to illustrate that there has to be a line to cross. But alright then, let me ask: if Browner & Sherman were 49ers, working the system to stagger the suspensions would be all good, no complaints? Also, no admission of wrong-doing necessary?


If they were 49ers I'd probably hate them. If there was the possibility that we wouldn't have to play against them I'd be all for it.

Guys get suspended and appeal suspensions all the time. Never once has how I felt about it mattered.

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The point of going to that extreme was to illustrate that there has to be a line to cross. But alright then, let me ask: if Browner & Sherman were 49ers, working the system to stagger the suspensions would be all good, no complaints? Also, no admission of wrong-doing necessary?


You don't know the circumstances as to why the case has been pushed back. In Shermans defense, he may have knowledge of why the results transpired the way they did, but he just needs time to collect the evidence. Browner seemingly acknowledged his wrong doing and accepted his penalty. Just because Browner was tagged for PED's, does not mean Sherman will as well.

Since you brought up the comparison to homicide earlier, do homicide suspects not get the opportunity to prove their innocence? Seems like your mind is made up. I would much rather postpone the hearing until the ones in question are able to gather their evidence, then to hold some one who may be innocent at fault because we wanted a outcome asap.

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So great for us if it does actually get pushed back. The final decision could go either way, but I was one of those guys who would rather risk missing games next year as opposed to this year.

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First off let me say that I'm as pumped and jacked about a good young Seahawks team as anyone.

That being said, maybe I'm way off but how many people here think Sherman has been falsely accused and has a legit appeal vs him and the 'Hawks working the system to stagger the suspensions. Browner seems to have accepted his guilt.

There is a reason why this stuff is banned. Have a google of 'Adderall dangerous side effects'. If some guys get away with it, then more guys will get away with it, and eventually virtually everyone in the league will have to keep up with the joneses. Worst though would be the pressure on up-and-coming-kids to keep up, most of whom will never see the NFL.

If he's guilty the thing to do man up about it. A public apology would be a good start (perhaps I missed it but I didn't hear one from Browner?). If he's guilty I think it's lame to work the appeal system and pretend otherwise.


The court system is screwed up anyway. It rewards Prosecuting Attorney's for getting fast results, and often times (IMHO its more often they we would like to admit) people take plea deals when innocent and plead guilty as to not risk getting the max penalty. Don't believe me? Look up Brian Banks.

I don't know what to think either way, but I don't need a public apology, and am not about to condemn anyone without being shown proof.

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If a key player committed murder and went to jail would you ask the same question? If no, where do you draw the line? Somewhere between dog fighting and steroids?


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