We all knew the story on Irvin coming out of WV. Even prior to the draft he, and everyone else, described him as "fast but raw". The report was he did not get sufficient (or significant) coaching at WV. With that, once drafted I said I don't want excuses, raw or not, if he don't get 8 sacks, he was picked too high.
He got those sacks but more importantly, despite his reported character issues, I witnessed an agro kid with incredible speed and as important, a frikin non-stop motor.
Watching him struggle in the pre-season, his moves were limited but I think he played about every down and never let up. I've now seen this for 16 (more) games. That's 20 games for a raw kid fresh out of college. He is likely spent at this point and who could fault him there? I think he's going to be a force in this league. Very happy with him thus far.
Having your views challenged is a lot more healthy than simply jabbering on with people who think exactly the same way as you.