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 Post subject: Wagner in the lead 1-0 in DROY voting
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Collinsworth just said he voted for him.

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That is so cool! :D :mrgreen:


I WANT A DROY!!!!


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That's cool. Luke Kuechly is going to be hard to beat though.

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2-0 because this morning John Clayton said he voted for Wagner too.

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3-0 Peter King mentioned that he voted for him - as well as Wilson.

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HOly crap this is AWESOME

Guys I forgot to mention.....So far DROy's have a streak of being voted to the pro bowl. The last like 15 of them are pro bowlers, and a few HOF's. Good company for Wagner


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Casey Hayward is a bigger threat than Keuchly.


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How many voters are there? Is it the entire Football Writers association I wonder? Time to go google.

EDIT: So the "official" Offensive/Defensive Rookies of the year are voted on by the Associated Press. I still haven't figured out how large the voting members are of this pool but it is a start. Link to Wikipedia entry for Rookie of the Year

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Casey Hayward is a bigger threat than Keuchly.


He doesn't play full time though, so there's that.


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And I'm patting myself on the back. I just can't say "I told you so" enough guys. Haha. :)

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I remember hearing Clayton say there are 50 AP voters.


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drdiags wrote:
How many voters are there? Is it the entire Football Writers association I wonder? Time to go google.

EDIT: So the "official" Offensive/Defensive Rookies of the year are voted on by the Associated Press. I still haven't figured out how large the voting members are of this pool but it is a start. Link to Wikipedia entry for Rookie of the Year


There are 50 votes. The AP is made up of a random assortment of members through out the journalist world. A lot of broadcast and papers utilize writers from the AP and their sources. Its part of AP's dedication to free, unfiltered information.

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And I'm patting myself on the back. I just can't say "I told you so" enough guys. Haha. :)

I understand. Wagner was the single player I wanted most in the draft. Knew we were going to need a MLB and scouted many. Wagner was quite far and away the most balanced MLB out there with pretty extreme upside, IMO. I thought he'd end up the best Hawks MLB of all time, but I don't know that I thought he would be on the map this soon. Pleasant surprise even though he was my #1 draft target.


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 Post subject: Re: Wagner in the lead 1-0 in DROY voting
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Meh, not saying he doesn't deserve props, but I wish they would wait until after the Super Bowl to announce the feel good about your player awards. We still have the playoffs to concentrate on and the players should be 100% in the team-first mode.


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Meh, not saying he doesn't deserve props, but I wish they would wait until after the Super Bowl to announce the feel good about your player awards. We still have the playoffs to concentrate on and the players should be 100% in the team-first mode.

I can agree with this. I don't like the Gus Bradley news and the possibility of it becoming a distraction.


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I know nanomoz was high on him as well, as he's a Utah State alum and is the guy here who watches more Utah State football than I do (and I watch a lot!). I wanted Turbin as I felt he'd step right in when Lynch needed a breather and I wanted Wagner. Wagner is a smart player. The only thing I thought teams would hold against him was that he was skinny looking. But he's bulked up and still kept all of his skills.

Every time the ball was snapped Bobby was there on the spot in college. I don't care what conference you're playing in or what kind of conference you're in. If you have that kind of awareness and can call a defense on the field, then you're a good football player. Some things can't be taught. Speed, the nose for the football, and the knack for making huge plays just seem to be some of those that are natural and Bobby was born with them. I wanted to keep the Heater, but once we had Wagner I knew we had just upgraded and would be just fine. Bobby to me was Lofa in college with all of the things Lofa was missing - 1- Good health (Lofa was always fighting some injury due to #2) 2- Size. 3- Speed to burn. He is a natural and as much as I loved Lofa, I think Bobby will be a much better player over a longer period of time due to the fact that he's big enough to stay durable, and he's got a large enough frame that he can bulk up even a bit more and not lose his speed like Lofa did. Lofa had to make a choice of being bulky enough to play, or small and fast enough to be great. Unfortunately he ended up caught in the middle and his career just fell apart. I feel bad for that dude. If he had been blessed with Bobby Wagner's size, he'd have dominated the NFL for 12-15 years.

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Sweet. Bobby deserves it!

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How weird would it be if Wagner won a RoY award and Wilson didn't?


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How weird would it be if Wagner won a RoY award and Wilson didn't?


Weird but understandable due to the Luck/RGIII media-lovefest. Any other year and Wilson wins it hands down and it's not even a debate.

I'm still holding on to hope that Russell wins it. Or even shares it with RGIII, I would be cool with that as well.

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Has there ever been a shared RotY award, before?

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I remember a shared MVP with I believe McNair and Manning. I can't remember a shared ROY off the top of my head. I just remember the pic of them on the cover of SI and the article saying how it was a real rarity to end up with a tie, but I think they both deserved it. I feel the same way about Russ and RG3 this year, but I'll give Russ props for playing the entire season and even getting to come out of games due to putting up such huge leads. Luck to me should be in the running because of the whole "team" aspect, but let's face it.... if he's on Seattle and puts up those same numbers, we're probably 6-10 or 5-11. He just didn't take very good care of the ball. Good story? Yes. Great season? Not compared to Russ and RG3 in my view. Taking care of the ball is the number 1 job of a rookie QB and they both did very well. Plus they both won a lot of games that their team wouldn't have likely won otherwise. I think a lot of young QB's could have won on Indy. I think Tannehill and Weeden could have put up similar records on the Colts. I think with Wilson or RG3 that the Colts would have had a chance at going undefeated due to their piss poor schedule.

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I'm ok with a shared OROY award, as long as Luck isn't a part of it.

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Has there ever been a shared RotY award, before?


Yep, shared DROY, oddly enough both players on the same team, who were LB's, for the Falcons in 1980.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_F ... Year_Award


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Huh. Interesting. I'm fine with a shared ORotY award between Wilson and RG3, but as SundayNite said, if Luck's part of it in any way, I'm drowning a bag of kittens.

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RolandDeschain wrote:
Huh. Interesting. I'm fine with a shared ORotY award between Wilson and RG3, but as SundayNite said, if Luck's part of it in any way, I'm drowning a bag of kittens.


Man, that's just mean.

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