Let's Talk Mariners

Trenchbroom":1gnii61x said:

Geez at this rate Smoak might actually see light at the end of my doghouse before the end of the year. It won't be pitch black anyways.


Great game Smoak!

Click to expand...

:13:

SonicHawk":3dy7i91f said:

CPHawk":3dy7i91f said:

425HawkSpark":3dy7i91f said:

That's it I'm getting a Seager jersey I hope we hold on too him.

Click to expand...

He's as good as gone. Pick a one year wonder at pitcher, and expect him to be traded for said pitcher. The following will happen, Seager will be a solid 300 hitter avg 20-30 hr a year, and the pitcher will stink up Safeco for 3 years.

Click to expand...

There is absolutely no reason to trade Seager. He won't be arbitration eligible until 2015 and for our inability to sign FA batters he will be paid dearly for his services. Our ownership has never had a problem with re-signing players who have shined in our system.

Click to expand...

Its just people having a moan with no substance somehow trading one top prospect (Adam Jones) signifies a decade of trading young talent away.

Nice to Smoak making the most of this chance the Ms clearly realize he is important to their future and need him to come good, even average

Is it time to say goodbye to Guti?

I mean he's awsome when he's actually on the field but man, dude would pull a tricept clapping his hands..

Keep him around for depth and be happy with what you can get out of him. He's not going to be expensive to hold onto.

SonicHawk":1ys5fgio said:

CPHawk":1ys5fgio said:

425HawkSpark":1ys5fgio said:

That's it I'm getting a Seager jersey I hope we hold on too him.

Click to expand...

He's as good as gone. Pick a one year wonder at pitcher, and expect him to be traded for said pitcher. The following will happen, Seager will be a solid 300 hitter avg 20-30 hr a year, and the pitcher will stink up Safeco for 3 years.

Click to expand...

There is absolutely no reason to trade Seager. He won't be arbitration eligible until 2015 and for our inability to sign FA batters he will be paid dearly for his services. Our ownership has never had a problem with re-signing players who have shined in our system.

Click to expand...

It was sarcasm, but honesty our ownership needs to change. Seattle has proven time and again that it will support a team through thick and thin, as long as the team shows they are trying. Imagine the mariners with a owner who cared and one who didn't have buffoons running the team.

Justin Smoak:
Before DL: 46G, .240, 3HR, .694OPS
After DL: 16G .339, 4HR, .422OBP, 1.047OPS.

Maybe all Mariners need to get hurt?

He was running into diminishing returns before. Sometimes it's a good idea to give it a rest for a while, like when you "sleep on it"--except with pain meds.

im liking this offense

It seems to have a spark lately.

425HawkSpark":ofw21m04 said:

It seems to have a spark lately.

Click to expand...

iwakuma shatting the bed to negate it.

Beavan is horrible.

" Seattle has proven time and again that it will support a team through thick and thin, as long as the team shows they are trying."


The above statement perhaps is true since they haven't been trying for years. It just shows that some people are so hooked on the game of baseball they keep showing up thinking the game will show up in Seattle even tho that bus left years ago.

I mean look at you, listen to yourselves. Hoping for the team to get back to .500. That's truly oathetic.

:roll:

The Radish":1w2ajffg said:

" Seattle has proven time and again that it will support a team through thick and thin, as long as the team shows they are trying."


The above statement perhaps is true since they haven't been trying for years. It just shows that some people are so hooked on the game of baseball they keep showing up thinking the game will show up in Seattle even tho that bus left years ago.

I mean look at you, listen to yourselves. Hoping for the team to get back to .500. That's truly oathetic.

:roll:

Click to expand...

I would be the same way if it was the hawks. Just like any time before 2000 the hawks were aweful I didn't give up on them nor willi on the mariners.

425HawkSpark":9yyawc3i said:

The Radish":9yyawc3i said:

" Seattle has proven time and again that it will support a team through thick and thin, as long as the team shows they are trying."


The above statement perhaps is true since they haven't been trying for years. It just shows that some people are so hooked on the game of baseball they keep showing up thinking the game will show up in Seattle even tho that bus left years ago.

I mean look at you, listen to yourselves. Hoping for the team to get back to .500. That's truly oathetic.

:roll:

Click to expand...

I would be the same way if it was the hawks. Just like any time before 2000 the hawks were aweful I didn't give up on them nor willi on the mariners.

Click to expand...

Don't feed the troll. For some reason he has nothing better to do.

jkitsune":9roilhdf said:

425HawkSpark":9roilhdf said:

The Radish":9roilhdf said:

" Seattle has proven time and again that it will support a team through thick and thin, as long as the team shows they are trying."


The above statement perhaps is true since they haven't been trying for years. It just shows that some people are so hooked on the game of baseball they keep showing up thinking the game will show up in Seattle even tho that bus left years ago.

I mean look at you, listen to yourselves. Hoping for the team to get back to .500. That's truly oathetic.

:roll:

Click to expand...

I would be the same way if it was the hawks. Just like any time before 2000 the hawks were aweful I didn't give up on them nor willi on the mariners.

Click to expand...

Don't feed the troll. For some reason he has nothing better to do.

Click to expand...

I don't think he was trolling. I thinks frustration with ownership. I'm not going to speak for Les but that's the typical consensus I get. I go to games because I really like baseball. I'm also a Dodger fan first and coming off the McCourt fiasco I completely get it. Absentee ownership that has no real interest in fielding a championship caliber team. I can see some peoples point of view on that even if I don't agree with it. Baseball is the one sport that has priven time and again that $$$$ and glam doesn't equal championships.

jkitsune":21gwuba1 said:

425HawkSpark":21gwuba1 said:

The Radish":21gwuba1 said:

" Seattle has proven time and again that it will support a team through thick and thin, as long as the team shows they are trying."


The above statement perhaps is true since they haven't been trying for years. It just shows that some people are so hooked on the game of baseball they keep showing up thinking the game will show up in Seattle even tho that bus left years ago.

I mean look at you, listen to yourselves. Hoping for the team to get back to .500. That's truly oathetic.

:roll:

Click to expand...

I would be the same way if it was the hawks. Just like any time before 2000 the hawks were aweful I didn't give up on them nor willi on the mariners.

Click to expand...

Don't feed the troll. For some reason he has nothing better to do.

Click to expand...

Hey Cali I too am a Dodger fan from way back.

Jits,,,,well I just don't understand paying money to someone that has no interest in putting a quality product on the field. And the Ms haven't had quality products on the field since the 90s.

As long as you keep giving them your money they think its ok. Only way to get real change is stop paying them for a piss poor product. If your automobile repair place gave you the same kind of crappy repair and service you'd change in a heartbeat. Why not do the same with your sports product?

Granted I stuck with the Hawks when they were poor but for the most part I could see they were trying to right the ship. I don't see that with the Mariners, they just rotate faces and provide the same crummy product every year.

And of course like all opinions here mine has as much value as yours.

:roll:

I'm not trolling! Listen to any radio show or read any number of articles and you will find a lot of people around the PAC NW think just like me. I love the mariners, and the last 10 years have sucked. Funny how Ruskell is hated here but somehow the MLB version of him (Armstrong and Lincoln) get a pass. And Imagine if the seahawks had 1 winning season in 10 years, and Paul Allen didn't bother coming to even 1 game? How do you think peoe would think of him.

The Radish":679hgv7e said:

" Seattle has proven time and again that it will support a team through thick and thin, as long as the team shows they are trying."


The above statement perhaps is true since they haven't been trying for years. It just shows that some people are so hooked on the game of baseball they keep showing up thinking the game will show up in Seattle even tho that bus left years ago.

I mean look at you, listen to yourselves. Hoping for the team to get back to .500. That's truly oathetic.

:roll:

Click to expand...

Well that may be true

yeah. I got nothing.







:les:

I don't think the Front Office gets a pass at all. We have a majority absentee owner that they represent and as long as they are increasing the valuation of the team such as the ROOT TV deal they are happy. I suspect the minority owners mostly feel the same way it is just a investment. We just can't get rid of them. I think a lot of the problems stem from them. They only seemed to be will to spend until they got the new stadium.

I will never forget in the late 90s Armstrong saying he wanted a team that was always competitive. This really concerned me. Having been in corporate America for a large part of my life I understand what is left out is as important as what is said. He never said winning it all was important.

By doing so he realizes it sets expectations to do just that and anything less is viewed by fans as a failure. So we get mediocre baseball. Teams that are built on the cheap why can't we attract free agents? Because you have to overpay to get them here with a decade of losing and they won't do it.

Remember there is no real budget in baseball. It is without a cap. The budget is just an arbitrary number they made up

KitsapHawk":2esxdlz0 said:

The Radish":2esxdlz0 said:

" Seattle has proven time and again that it will support a team through thick and thin, as long as the team shows they are trying."


The above statement perhaps is true since they haven't been trying for years. It just shows that some people are so hooked on the game of baseball they keep showing up thinking the game will show up in Seattle even tho that bus left years ago.

I mean look at you, listen to yourselves. Hoping for the team to get back to .500. That's truly oathetic.

:roll:

Click to expand...

Well that may be true

yeah. I got nothing.







:les:

Click to expand...

Oh stop it. Yes you DO: You and your widdle puppy are SO ADORABLE.