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Which 12 flag do you like better?
Current 12 flag 56%  56%  [ 58 ]
Proposed new 12 flag 44%  44%  [ 46 ]
I'm an opposing team's fan and scared of either option 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
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That's weird. I threw this one together in Photoshop last year:

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But, yeah, a new flag is definitely necessary. The current one incorporates the old colors and the old number font. Also, the 'Seahawk Blue' color in the current flag always struck me as a bit girly.
Plus, Paul Allen, as a smart business man, should see this change as a way to create some new merchandising revenue...

Anyway, I hope your friend gets some momentum going to change the flag.

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Looks good, I would like it better if the feathers were made bigger on the sides so that there were 12 on each side. Other than that I like it I would buy one.

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Lollllll niners fan is SO mad because his team came up here and got butthoused. What a joke of a team and fan base. Go join the rest of the bay area in complaining about the mean Seahawks and their unfairly loud stadium.

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In my opinion, I think the emergence of the 12th man and the Seattle's soccer fans, was due in large part because of the Sonics leaving.

After the Sonics left due to poor fan support, Seattle sports and their fans have been much more outspoken and supportive.



That post is so Jackwagon that it is clearly just trolling in anger from this week's Niner tragedy. Explain the KingDome's effect on QB's like John Elway or the inability to obtain a ticket to a game without being on the waiting list back in the 80's? We were doing it long before and doing it well.

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Pretty sure that is the same 49er fan who wrote the letter to the newspaper about how Seahawks fans are too loud.. What a tool.


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Pretty sure that is the same 49er fan who wrote the letter to the newspaper about how Seahawks fans are too loud.. What a tool.
he has brought up people losing their hearing on multiple threads so you may be right


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After the Sonics left due to poor fan support


I swear everyone not from the seattle area still thinks this is why the sonics left

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No offense Sailor, but I don't see any reason to change the flag since it's not really tied to any of the old/new team colors, i think it stands alone. It would be cool to have that as another option (an alternate) but not replace IMO.

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I've been wanting an updated flag for a long time. I plan on making my own anyway.

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No offense Sailor, but I don't see any reason to change the flag since it's not really tied to any of the old/new team colors, i think it stands alone. It would be cool to have that as another option (an alternate) but not replace IMO.


Yea, I don't know that I'd want to replace it completely either. But it'd be cool to have as an option. I love the option of having new and old school Seahawks flags to fly, and this would just add more to that.

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9erEmpire wrote:
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Seattle fans should give their team more credit. Fans don't play the game. Stop acting like you have a game to play Sunday.

It's because of this, the media doesn't take your team serious. Every time some media outlet mentions your team, they always mention how bad you guys are on the road.

I know winning is new to some fans but geez, you guys went to the SB not too long ago. Act like you have been there before.


What the hell is this joker even talking about.

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In my opinion, I think the emergence of the 12th man and the Seattle's soccer fans, was due in large part because of the Sonics leaving.

After the Sonics left due to poor fan support, Seattle sports and their fans have been much more outspoken and supportive.


Hmm, the 12th man jersey was retired in 1984.

Seahawks fans invented the wave in the early 80's.

Rules changes were implemented to control crowd noise in response to 12th man influence long before the Sonics left.

Seems to me the 12th man has always been a factor. Sure, it grows with success, but lets not pretend this is some new phenonema.

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At first I was all "yeah, let's do it!" but then I thought about it and I think they should leave it be. I want one though. For my house.

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I like the change up in the blue, honestly

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Seahawks fans invented the wave in the early 80's.


Huskies fans, at Husky stadium. I was there.

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Thats totally what the new 12th man flag shoukd look like. Doesnt make any sense why it didnt change with the uniforms. Send this to the Seahawks, and let them know it needs to be changed. They seem to think theres no way we can change the 12th man flag. Its dumb.


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It looks okay. Would look even better without the green stripes on the sides. Just dark blue flag with the new 12 on it.


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In my opinion, I think the emergence of the 12th man and the Seattle's soccer fans, was due in large part because of the Sonics leaving.

After the Sonics left due to poor fan support, Seattle sports and their fans have been much more outspoken and supportive.



The Seahawks retired the #12 jersey back in the 80's for it's fans and called them the '12th Man'.... do your history!!!


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For those of you on Facebook, a friend of mine has put together a Facebook page to promote interest in an alternate 12 flag, one that reflects the traditions displayed in the new uniforms. Check it out, and join if you'd like.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1418440285044364/

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Has this been sent to the hawks and what was their response?


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9erEmpire wrote:
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Seattle fans should give their team more credit. Fans don't play the game. Stop acting like you have a game to play Sunday.

It's because of this, the media doesn't take your team serious. Every time some media outlet mentions your team, they always mention how bad you guys are on the road.

I know winning is new to some fans but geez, you guys went to the SB not too long ago. Act like you have been there before.



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No offense Sailor, but I don't see any reason to change the flag since it's not really tied to any of the old/new team colors, i think it stands alone. It would be cool to have that as another option (an alternate) but not replace IMO.


Agreed, The coaches change, the owners change, the players change, the uniforms change, the front office changes, But!, The fans are the same. The fans are the only constant in this franchise.. and that means the flag should stay the same.


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No offense Sailor, but I don't see any reason to change the flag since it's not really tied to any of the old/new team colors, i think it stands alone. It would be cool to have that as another option (an alternate) but not replace IMO.


Agreed, The coaches change, the owners change, the players change, the uniforms change, the front office changes, But!, The fans are the same. The fans are the only constant in this franchise.. and that means the flag should stay the same.



Disagree. Looks dumb to have jerseys of a totally different color


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In my opinion, I think the emergence of the 12th man and the Seattle's soccer fans, was due in large part because of the Sonics leaving.

After the Sonics left due to poor fan support, Seattle sports and their fans have been much more outspoken and supportive.


And your emergence here is a result of an inferiority complex.

BTW - we are 4-1 in our last 5 road games. Whats the Whiners record over the same span?


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Has this been sent to the hawks and what was their response?


I was told it was pitched to "both the Graphic Designer and Creative Director months ago, and they both said their social surveys advise that the fans love the jerseys but don't want to mess with the flag."

I think it would gain traction if a) they had a better product concept to pitch to people so they could actually see and understand what it'd look like, and b) sell it with the caveat that this would not totally replace the current one; both would be in production and available.

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No offense Sailor, but I don't see any reason to change the flag since it's not really tied to any of the old/new team colors, i think it stands alone. It would be cool to have that as another option (an alternate) but not replace IMO.


Agreed, The coaches change, the owners change, the players change, the uniforms change, the front office changes, But!, The fans are the same. The fans are the only constant in this franchise.. and that means the flag should stay the same.



Disagree. Looks dumb to have jerseys of a totally different color


You don't wear any old jerseys of players from the past to games?


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Seahawk Sailor wrote:
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Has this been sent to the hawks and what was their response?


I was told it was pitched to "both the Graphic Designer and Creative Director months ago, and they both said their social surveys advise that the fans love the jerseys but don't want to mess with the flag."

I think it would gain traction if a) they had a better product concept to pitch to people so they could actually see and understand what it'd look like, and b) sell it with the caveat that this would not totally replace the current one; both would be in production and available.


I like the current flag - no need to change it.


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Johnny wrote:
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No offense Sailor, but I don't see any reason to change the flag since it's not really tied to any of the old/new team colors, i think it stands alone. It would be cool to have that as another option (an alternate) but not replace IMO.


Agreed, The coaches change, the owners change, the players change, the uniforms change, the front office changes, But!, The fans are the same. The fans are the only constant in this franchise.. and that means the flag should stay the same.



Disagree. Looks dumb to have jerseys of a totally different color


You don't wear any old jerseys of players from the past to games?



They changed the jerseys and colors. If they can change that, then they should change the flag. Why do we have a flag that is another teams colors? Are we the titans or panthers? No. The flag now looks like its for a different team. It should be the same.


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Added a poll. Just asking which 12 flag you like better.

Bear in mind that this will likely be pitched as an either/or option, not one that replaces what we have currently.

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They changed the jerseys and colors. If they can change that, then they should change the flag. Why do we have a flag that is another teams colors? Are we the titans or panthers? No. The flag now looks like its for a different team. It should be the same.


If that is the criteria then its never matched the teams colors - even before the current uni switch.


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They changed the jerseys and colors. If they can change that, then they should change the flag. Why do we have a flag that is another teams colors? Are we the titans or panthers? No. The flag now looks like its for a different team. It should be the same.


If that is the criteria then its never matched the teams colors - even before the current uni switch.



only because they couldn't find a fabric that matched the old Seahawks blue, and that was the closest they could come. Look at the old flags they used to run across the field with after Touchdowns. Same color.


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You were really good a billion years ago,

so were the cowboys & raiders and just like them NOBODY CARES NOW


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you can always tell a fan of an opposing team has nothing to say about anything substantial when they start bringing up rings from eons ago, rings that (because most 9ers California fans are bandwagoners), THEY WEREN'T EVEN AROUND FOR.

half the niners fans i talk to don't even remember some of the dudes on their team from the championship days unless its montanna or young.

Most of you guys don't understand football or sports in general, you have representatives of your fan base motioning to stop fans from yelling at games and to let your team win, THEY SERIOUSLY BELIEVE THIS. If that isn't the epitome of entitled fans I don't think one exist.

You coach is a lil b#$@#, he cries after every game, EVERY game about something. even the ones he wins.

Harbaugh was given a stacked deck of a team and has managed to choke at higher and higher levels,
Pete was given a rag tag team of has beens and never was's and turned the organization into a powerhouse, you mad?


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It's the perfect time to introduce a new "12" flag in our current colours, as we will be winning our 1st Super Bowl in them at the end of this season!

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It looks okay. Would look even better without the green stripes on the sides. Just dark blue flag with the new 12 on it.


I'm kind of interested to see it with out the green on the side also.

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Seahawk Sailor wrote:
For those of you on Facebook, a friend of mine has put together a Facebook page to promote interest in an alternate 12 flag, one that reflects the traditions displayed in the new uniforms. Check it out, and join if you'd like.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1418440285044364/

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Edit: adding a poll to this post. Vote away 12's.

Sorry the sheer fact that this exists is garbage. What's the matter with the old one ? We probably should stop raising the 12 man flag since thats too old school and completely has to do with our past and god knows we can't have any of that! :sarcasm_on:
We should change Steve largents jersey to the new one too.

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I may be in the slight minority, but I want it to stay the same. The flag is ours, the uniform is for the players. It should stand alone, separate yet one with the team. A constant that stays the same as uniforms come and go. I'd be a little hurt if they changed our beloved 12th man flag! Quit messin' with stuff. Some things are sacred and should stay the same, forever... IMO.

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No offense Sailor, but I don't see any reason to change the flag since it's not really tied to any of the old/new team colors, i think it stands alone. It would be cool to have that as another option (an alternate) but not replace IMO.


Yea, I don't know that I'd want to replace it completely either. But it'd be cool to have as an option. I love the option of having new and old school Seahawks flags to fly, and this would just add more to that.


Put the old flag in the rafters and fly the new one. I do like the changes on it.

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Seattle fans should give their team more credit. Fans don't play the game. Stop acting like you have a game to play Sunday.

It's because of this, the media doesn't take your team serious. Every time some media outlet mentions your team, they always mention how bad you guys are on the road.

I know winning is new to some fans but geez, you guys went to the SB not too long ago. Act like you have been there before.

wrong forum buddy. Scram and take your fairweather fans with you

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Seahawk Sailor wrote:
For those of you on Facebook, a friend of mine has put together a Facebook page to promote interest in an alternate 12 flag, one that reflects the traditions displayed in the new uniforms. Check it out, and join if you'd like.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1418440285044364/

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Edit: adding a poll to this post. Vote away 12's.


Love it! I think we're over due for a new flag with new colors and scheme. Can the flag in the pic be purchased? I want it!


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Love it! I think we're over due for a new flag with new colors and scheme. Can the flag in the pic be purchased? I want it!


Check the Facebook page for details on that.

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Love it! I think we're over due for a new flag with new colors and scheme. Can the flag in the pic be purchased? I want it!


Check the Facebook page for details on that.


Will do.


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After mulling it over for a bit, it think the flag should remain the same. It's our flag and that blue just does it for that flag. As soon as you see that blue you know when it is you're looking at


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I like the thought of the flag matching the uni colors.

And I think that 9er fans must be horrible to play card with " Full house 9er fan eat that! Sorry dude doesn't matter my team won 5 Super Bowels 50 years ago."


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 Post subject: Re: Alternate 12 flag Facebook page
 Post Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:12 pm 
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Hey Fellow 12s! I appreciate Seahawk Sailor bringing the ALT 12 to your attention and asking for your feedback. This flag design has been a passion of mine for some time, and obviously Thunderhawk too! First and foremost, the answer is NO. I am not making a move to replace the Big Blue 12! I REPEAT, NOT REPLACE!!! I do feel however, as many of you here in this forum as well, that there is room for another flag in the family that is more representative of our new attitude, new culture, and new uniforms. As Sea hawk Sailor ststed earlier, I have been in corespondence with the Hawks staff regarding this concept, and intial responses were that their social surveys indicated that fans wanted to leave things alone with regard to the traditional 12. I think the staff misunderstood and thought I was lobbying to replace the current 12 with a new 12. Again, NOT REPLACE! I even went so far as to call the flag the Alternate 12 (ALT 12) so people would not think a NEW 12 was replacing OLD 12. I would love to see fans in CLink waving and cheering with this flag right along with the Blue 12. How cool would that look? And one day, perhaps the ALT 12 will find its way on a flag pole high above the stadium for all to see. Who knows? For this fan, it was worth it to ask the question and see what's possible. I'm sincerely grateful for your feedback, bith for and against as it paints a true fan opinion regarding a piece of our fanship that we take very seriously. SO please, I ask that you continue to provide your feedback (exceot for those trolling Whiner fans that somehow got in here...). With that I close by simply saying: GO HAWKS!


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 Post subject: Re: Alternate 12 flag Facebook page
 Post Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:30 pm 
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LDOseahawks17 wrote:
Hey Fellow 12s! I appreciate Seahawk Sailor bringing the ALT 12 to your attention and asking for your feedback. This flag design has been a passion of mine for some time, and obviously Thunderhawk too! First and foremost, the answer is NO. I am not making a move to replace the Big Blue 12! I REPEAT, NOT REPLACE!!! I do feel however, as many of you here in this forum as well, that there is room for another flag in the family that is more representative of our new attitude, new culture, and new uniforms. As Sea hawk Sailor ststed earlier, I have been in corespondence with the Hawks staff regarding this concept, and intial responses were that their social surveys indicated that fans wanted to leave things alone with regard to the traditional 12. I think the staff misunderstood and thought I was lobbying to replace the current 12 with a new 12. Again, NOT REPLACE! I even went so far as to call the flag the Alternate 12 (ALT 12) so people would not think a NEW 12 was replacing OLD 12. I would love to see fans in CLink waving and cheering with this flag right along with the Blue 12. How cool would that look? And one day, perhaps the ALT 12 will find its way on a flag pole high above the stadium for all to see. Who knows? For this fan, it was worth it to ask the question and see what's possible. I'm sincerely grateful for your feedback, bith for and against as it paints a true fan opinion regarding a piece of our fanship that we take very seriously. SO please, I ask that you continue to provide your feedback (exceot for those trolling Whiner fans that somehow got in here...). With that I close by simply saying: GO HAWKS!

I think you are on exactly the right track. There is no reason that both flags can't coexist. On game days we see fans rocking throwback jerseys, the new jerseys and even the Hass/Alexander Seahawk Blue jerseys from a couple years back. No one gets confused. It's all Seahawks stuff. When I see your new flag it is still instantly evocative of the 12th man. It would be cool to give fans a choice.

I hope in time it will replace the older one but if it didn't I would still like the option of flying the new one.

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 Post subject: Re: Alternate 12 flag Facebook page
 Post Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:57 pm 
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Thunderhawk wrote:
That's weird. I threw this one together in Photoshop last year:

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But, yeah, a new flag is definitely necessary. The current one incorporates the old colors and the old number font. Also, the 'Seahawk Blue' color in the current flag always struck me as a bit girly.
Plus, Paul Allen, as a smart business man, should see this change as a way to create some new merchandising revenue...

Anyway, I hope your friend gets some momentum going to change the flag.



Thanks for your support ThunderHawk! You are the Godather of the ALT 12!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Alternate 12 flag Facebook page
 Post Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:54 pm 
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I think the original flag represents our history and should remain. It is so awesome in every way and is my favorite. I do understand those that feel it can change as the team changes just like logos change and colors change on uniforms. I do think many versions of 12th man flag can coexist, evolve, and be appreciated by all. Just show your colors and be proud. I do think the original should always fly on the space needle.


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 Post subject: Re: Alternate 12 flag Facebook page
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Where can I buy this flag?

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 Post subject: Re: Alternate 12 flag Facebook page
 Post Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:47 am 
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Largent80 wrote:
Where can I buy this flag?


Via facebook. He's got a facebook page set up.
https://www.facebook.com/settings?tab=s ... 285044364/


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