Go Get MALIK WILLIS on Day #3 (Nevermind, he's gone)...

MyrtleHawk

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I dont believe Seahawks can surpass teams like Houston or Lions in next years draft. Which means they will not get a top 2 QB next year. If they like any of this years prospects, they should go and get him as there will not be a better chance next year, meaning the available prospects will also be the same caliber as these ones that are available now.

Malik Willis has been compared to Trey Lance as a raw prospect who needs time to develop. He could easily sit one season behind Lock and be more ready next year than any 2023 rookie. Niners gave a ton for Lance. Willis would be almost free now compared to that.

If they don’t like Willis, Corral or Howell could do the same and one of the will probably be available at 40.
Hawks have two 1st round picks and two 2nd round picks next year. If they want the 1st or 2nd over-all pick to get their QB, they have the draft capital to get it (more than the 49ers did when they got Lance) moving forward.
 
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Hawks have two 1st round picks and two 2nd round picks next year. If they want the 1st or 2nd over-all pick to get their QB, they have the draft capital to get it (more than the 49ers did when they got Lance) moving forward.
If there is a team willing to do the trade. But likely the teams that will have the 1st and 2nd picks will need QB:s and will not be willing to make a trade.

The fact that Willis slid this far is an opportunity.
 

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If the real goal is to get Straud or Young next year then we should trade at least one of these second round picks for another 2023 first. Carolina should be a buyer with their FO on the hot seat.

I don't personally like Willis as a prospect that much due to the low level of competition he faced at Liberty. His highlights are a lot less impressive when you realize he's playing vs. 2 star recruits. His pro day looked good but that was against air.

If we do take a day 2 QB my desired ranking would be Ridder, Corral, Howell, Willis, Strong.
 

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If the real goal is to get Straud or Young next year then we should trade at least one of these second round picks for another 2023 first. Carolina should be a buyer with their FO on the hot seat.

I don't personally like Willis as a prospect that much due to the low level of competition he faced at Liberty. His highlights are a lot less impressive when you realize he's playing vs. 2 star recruits. His pro day looked good but that was against air.

If we do take a day 2 QB my desired ranking would be Ridder, Corral, Howell, Willis, Strong.
that is going to be a goal of so many teams. Hoping that comes to fruition is a really bad strategy.

One of those Day 2 picks you mentioned would be smart to take a chance on.
 

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If there is a team willing to do the trade. But likely the teams that will have the 1st and 2nd picks will need QB:s and will not be willing to make a trade.

The fact that Willis slid this far is an opportunity.
Give them an offer they can't refuse. Two 1st rounders in the same year as well as the next 2-3 1st rounders should suffice. Also, see below.
If the real goal is to get Straud or Young next year then we should trade at least one of these second round picks for another 2023 first. Carolina should be a buyer with their FO on the hot seat.

I don't personally like Willis as a prospect that much due to the low level of competition he faced at Liberty. His highlights are a lot less impressive when you realize he's playing vs. 2 star recruits. His pro day looked good but that was against air.

If we do take a day 2 QB my desired ranking would be Ridder, Corral, Howell, Willis, Strong.
I'm with it, but only with Texans considering Jacksonville has their QB, Lions will quite possibly be the only competition depending on how the 2nd round of the draft goes (if anyone predicted to be in the bottom tier of picks choose a QB in this year's second round). Even then, I feel like it just might take more than a 2nd this year. Even so, I'd be willing to pay that price for the top 2 picks of a non-QB-needy team.
 

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Give them an offer they can't refuse. Two 1st rounders in the same year as well as the next 2-3 1st rounders should suffice. Also, see below.

I'm with it, but only with Texans considering Jacksonville has their QB, Lions will quite possibly be the only competition depending on how the 2nd round of the draft goes (if anyone predicted to be in the bottom tier of picks choose a QB in this year's second round). Even then, I feel like it just might take more than a 2nd this year. Even so, I'd be willing to pay that price for the top 2 picks of a non-QB-needy team.
On top of Houston and Detroit, There are also Falcons, Panthers, Colts, Saints, Commanders and a couple of other teams looking to fill the QB position. It is a tough road to go if a top 2 pick in 2023 is the target. Giving 1-5, first rounders as you suggest, weakens the team a lot from other areas. Also if and when there a two QB needy teams on the top 2 picks in 2023, giving the farm might not be enough. Taking a flier on a 2nd round QB this year is not much compared to that and it does not mean a QB is out of the question next year if he doesn't progress as expected.

I'm not disappointed if they don't take a QB this year. I'm just saying this looks like an opportunity to get a serious caliber prospect without having to pay too much.
 

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On top of Houston and Detroit, There are also Falcons, Panthers, Colts, Saints, Commanders and a couple of other teams looking to fill the QB position. It is a tough road to go if a top 2 pick in 2023 is the target. Giving 1-5, first rounders as you suggest, weakens the team a lot from other areas. Also if and when there a two QB needy teams on the top 2 picks in 2023, giving the farm might not be enough. Taking a flier on a 2nd round QB this year is not much compared to that and it does not mean a QB is out of the question next year if he doesn't progress as expected.

I'm not disappointed if they don't take a QB this year. I'm just saying this looks like an opportunity to get a serious caliber prospect without having to pay too much.
I understand what you're trying to say, however I doubt the Falcons, Panthers, Colts, Saints, and Commanders have the top 1-2 picks next year based on their respective teams and how they drafted this year. I fully expect the Texans to have one of the two top QB needy picks for next year though, and I'll be happy to explain why in a very detailed post/private message compared to all the other teams you mentioned.

That last line though, makes us the Browns.
 

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I dont see how it makes us the Browns. Many teams have taken a QB second/third round and not become the Browns. Like Tampa Bay last year. Pats with Garappolo. What the Browns do is take the wrong guy too early. Add giving several 1st rounders to get the guy to that and yeah, you become the Browns for a long time.

But I get your point too. I just don't believe it will be that simple for Seahawks to surpass all those teams. If they go full tank mode this year, then that is the perfect strategy. But I dont believe Carroll does that. As said, I'm not disappointed if they go after a guy in 2023 and skip QB this year. But I'm not sure they can actually get a better prospect then.
 

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If the real goal is to get Straud or Young next year then we should trade at least one of these second round picks for another 2023 first. Carolina should be a buyer with their FO on the hot seat.

I don't personally like Willis as a prospect that much due to the low level of competition he faced at Liberty. His highlights are a lot less impressive when you realize he's playing vs. 2 star recruits. His pro day looked good but that was against air.

If we do take a day 2 QB my desired ranking would be Ridder, Corral, Howell, Willis, Strong.
This is a good point. I like Corral most but as it’s only a second rounder, Willis might a be a worthy bet too as it does not set the franchise back like a top ten pick might. Ridder or Howell might be the ones FO has highest on their board. Interesting to see whether they do make a move at QB. Plenty of great prospects for other positions are available too. I like the way they started the draft. No reaching, no unnecessary trading. Just BPA and it fills a need too.
 

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Get off the "Lets pick a QB next year" train! The other teams aren't blind and have the same idea...and the Hawks could miss the boat twice. The Hawks will be staring at the top 5 QBs in this year's draft tomorrow at an absolute steal in the 2nd.

Corral is my boy if they go QB, the guy is ready right now!
 

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I dont see how it makes us the Browns. Many teams have taken a QB second/third round and not become the Browns. Like Tampa Bay last year. Pats with Garappolo. What the Browns do is take the wrong guy too early. Add giving several 1st rounders to get the guy to that and yeah, you become the Browns for a long time.

But I get your point too. I just don't believe it will be that simple for Seahawks to surpass all those teams. If they go full tank mode this year, then that is the perfect strategy. But I dont believe Carroll does that. As said, I'm not disappointed if they go after a guy in 2023 and skip QB this year. But I'm not sure they can actually get a better prospect then.
Pete would never go "full tank mode." That would be anathema to him.
 

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Get off the "Lets pick a QB next year" train! The other teams aren't blind and have the same idea...and the Hawks could miss the boat twice. The Hawks will be staring at the top 5 QBs in this year's draft tomorrow at an absolute steal in the 2nd.

Corral is my boy if they go QB, the guy is ready right now!
How is it a steal if the qbs left have 3rd round grades at best? There's no value in getting the best of poor quality options.
 

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How is it a steal if the qbs left have 3rd round grades at best? There's no value in getting the best of poor quality options.
But do they have 3rd round grades at best? PFF has Willis 30th overall, Ridder 41, Corral 53. NFL.com has Willis and Corral 19 and 20 overall. Ridder 33. It' possible I get these wrong and teams obviously have their own grades. It just seems to me these players have a low 1st round - end of second round grades.
 

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Lol , seabowl you are right but I remember when RW was drafted you said something like he was the worst QB ever. Lol I even remember someone even made your post their signature. I am happy you came around to RW.

And for the guy who said everyone was down on RW, it was mostly the media talking heads that were down. Gave that draft a F.
So you “remember” what I posted 10 years ago even though you joined this site 5 years after the so called post of mine? It”s true I actually did not love the pick of Wilson as we just got Flynn but NEVER said he was the worst qb ever. Before posting something incorrect you may want to check before doing so.
 

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I am really liking the discussions this year. Much better than talking about how PC screwed up the first pick In past years.

I think PC will see Luck as a reclamation project and skip on a QB. I wish they’d take a flyer later in the draft as a developmental QB though.
 

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But do they have 3rd round grades at best? PFF has Willis 30th overall, Ridder 41, Corral 53. NFL.com has Willis and Corral 19 and 20 overall. Ridder 33. It' possible I get these wrong and teams obviously have their own grades. It just seems to me these players have a low 1st round - end of second round grades.
Sites like that admit they grade players with need and not just in terms of ability. This so they dont look daft when someone makes a reach like the Steelers at 20.

I think it was Scott McCloughan who said QBs will be drafted earlier but none have anything higher than 3rd round grade talent wise.
 
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