Frozenropers
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Plan A being, counting on an UDFA to start and perform up to NFL starter standards is a recipe for disaster.
Plan A being, counting on an UDFA to start and perform up to NFL starter standards is a recipe for disaster.
Let’s see……how many of those were starters week one of year one?Don't tell Doug Baldwin, Jermaine Kearse, Joe Nash, Mack Strong, Jordan Babineaux, Jim Zorn/Dave Krieg that...
Also, just to play along……how many UDFA has the Hawks invited to camp during the years covering those players careers you just listed? What roughly do you think, was the percent of those UDFA’s that were invited to camp during those years became starters in the NFL in their first year?Don't tell Doug Baldwin, Jermaine Kearse, Joe Nash, Mack Strong, Jordan Babineaux, Jim Zorn/Dave Krieg that...
I don't how many started in week one of year one. Not many rookies do.Let’s see……how many of those were starters week one of year one?
Point stands……..relying on an UDFA to start is a recipe for disaster.
I think maybe the discussion has gotten lost in the hyperbole. Is it sound strategy to invite the best UDFa’s you can to camp every year and see if you can find a diamond in the rough or two to fill out the back end Of the roster and possibly become something more down the line? Of course it is.I don't how many started in week one of year one. Not many rookies do.
I do know that there were a lot more than 255 football players leaving college last year, so the odds of there being undrafted pro-caliber talent are pretty good.
Relying on just your 7 draft picks every year to fill your roster would be a recipe for disaster.
Plan A being, counting on an UDFA to start and perform up to NFL starter standards is a recipe for disaster.
One thing that I keep forgetting about and occasionally remembering is, we can poach from other team's practice squads if we absolutely need specific players. Think rounds 5-7, all those gems that are more likely to end up on someone's PS due to 53 cut-downs...Names that were thrown around here that people wanted on the Hawks.We drafted well this year, however we did not invest early round picks to address the soft middle in our front 7. Guys we passed on would include Carter, Kancey, Mazi, or Benton, Campbell, etc. Are these guys sure fire day one starters? Who knows, but before camp and preseason games, those names sounded sexier than our Young, Cooper, and Devon Bush.
That’s how I see it right now, as well. I think Young can be good in time, but they need at least one veteran body that can play NT (1T). I think it could be a very exciting group if they solve the 1T issue.The Actual front 7:
5T - Dre Jones
3T - Jarran Reed
1T - Hasn't been signed yet (Cam Young -/- place holder)
Leo - Uchenna Nwosu
Sam - Mafe/Hall
Mike - Wagner
Will - Devin Bush
DPR- Taylor (Won't play in the base)
There was no way that we could justify taking Kancey at five, so we did not actually pass on him. Mazi was a reach in the first round, so passing on him at 20 was reasonable. I think we were disappointed that Benton went three picks before us, but I can't imagine him being a good choice at 37. I was never really sold on Campbell.We drafted well this year, however we did not invest early round picks to address the soft middle in our front 7. Guys we passed on would include Carter, Kancey, Mazi, or Benton, Campbell, etc. Are these guys sure fire day one starters? Who knows, but before camp and preseason games, those names sounded sexier than our Young, Cooper, and Devon Bush.
I quite agree with you, whether we "passed" on those guys, or we didn't "reach" for them, we could but we didn't get them. And we didn't for good reasons.There was no way that we could justify taking Kancey at five, so we did not actually pass on him. Mazi was a reach in the first round, so passing on him at 20 was reasonable. I think we were disappointed that Benton went three picks before us, but I can't imagine him being a good choice at 37. I was never really sold on Campbell.
As far as the Carter pass, I had to remind myself that he seems as selfish as Me3 and I made peace with us not drafting him.
We are still a bit undetermined at the middle, 1T/NT and Devin Bush, at least most here aren't sold on Bush yet.The Actual front 7:
5T - Dre Jones
3T - Jarran Reed
1T - Hasn't been signed yet (Cam Young -/- place holder)
Leo - Uchenna Nwosu
Sam - Mafe/Hall
Mike - Wagner
Will - Devin Bush
DPR- Taylor (Won't play in the base)