Four picks one OL selected

[seabowl]

Don’t get me wrong I like what Seattle has done however, I’m still quite concerned about the OL. Even with the addition of Zabel, they still have issues at center and Lucas’s health is still a major question mark. Yes we have back ups, but most of them haven’t done great.

Anyone else wish they would’ve used another pick on an OL?

 

[Fresno Hawk]

Yes, all day 2 picks we drafted areas that we have depth at. We drafted a safety, in which we have good safeties already. We drafted a TE, we also have 2 very good TE's on the roster. And we drafted a QB that's now 5 on the roster.

 

[Scout]

I do not think the Seahawks are done adding to the OL with so many picks left and it is a deep interior OL draft. But with Zabel as an anchor it solves a lot of problems.

 

[CPHawk]

Don’t get me wrong I like what Seattle has done however, I’m still quite concerned about the OL. Even with the addition of Zabel, they still have issues at center and Lucas’s health is still a major question mark. Yes we have back ups, but most of them haven’t done great.

Anyone else wish they would’ve used another pick on an OL?

What has JS done to make you wish he continues to waste picks on OL though? The data is clear, he has been last of 15 years of drafting/building OL.

 

[seabowl]

What has JS done to make you wish he continues to waste picks on OL though? The data is clear, he has been last of 15 years of drafting/building OL.

Not exactly sure what you were saying. Are you insinuating he sucks at OL drafting so not to select any?

 

[Scout]

At this point adding another interior OL to compete isn't a bad idea but the players brought at this point of the draft of day 3/UDFA territory are very similar in talent level to what Seattle already has with Sundell, Laumea, Haynes and Olu. I am all for Seahawks double dipping on the interior OL and see what sticks.

 

[Trackhawk]

At this point adding another interior OL to compete isn't a bad idea but the players brought at this point of the draft of day 3/UDFA territory are very similar in talent level to what Seattle already has with Sundell, Laumea, Haynes and Olu. I am all for Seahawks double dipping on the interior OL and see what sticks.

Agree, with the caveat that, if you plan to stock your o-line cupboard only with mid to late round, JAG talent, may as well stock it with JAGs who are on their first contract.

 

[NoGain]

I was in the camp of going with another OLman with one of our top picks if a player warranted it. I wanted to see players fighting it out to start on the OLine. We pretty much added nothing in FAcy and only made one investment amongst our top picks on an OLine near dead last in the league.

 

[AnimeAmore]

I didn't necessarily expect the Hawks to use 2 of their first 4 (or 5) on OL, so only getting Zabel isn't an issue to me, but I only liked our first 2 picks. It seemed like Schneider was on the right track and then everything got derailed after we got Emmanwori.
A Tight End with almost no college production who missed 2 seasons...in the 2nd round?
A gadget QB when we already have enough QBs for two teams...in the 3rd round? Those are the types of players you use later picks on if they are still around. You don't use premium picks when you have a bunch of holes. Schneider did nothing in free agency so this was our last chance to add meaningful players. After the draft it's just old cast-offs past their prime.

First 2 picks both get an A from me, the next 2 picks get a D from me.

 

[AnimeAmore]

At this point adding another interior OL to compete isn't a bad idea but the players brought at this point of the draft of day 3/UDFA territory are very similar in talent level to what Seattle already has with Sundell, Laumea, Haynes and Olu. I am all for Seahawks double dipping on the interior OL and see what sticks.

I disagree that the talent level is the same as our current guys. Our current guys are a step below because our front office places versatility above ability. Schneider would rather have mediocre linemen who are mediocre at multiple positions than to have decent linemen who only play one position.
The absolute #1 reason our offensive line always sucks is because none of them have a single position. We never draft tackles to *just* be tackles. We never draft guards to be *just* guards. We never draft centers to just be the center. Schneider truly prefers bad offensive linemen who can be bad at multiple spots.

Our OL group is tainted by flawed scouting and a flawed philosophy.

 

[Fresno Hawk]

Don't know if this true. We drafted Haynes, a guard to play guard which he did. We drafted Olu a center to play center which he does, and Bradford a guard to play guard which he is playing guard. Also we drafted Lewis to play guard and he is a guard for Carolina. We drafted 2 tackles in Lucas and Cross that play tackle. Just saying

 

[SeaWolv]

I can't help but wonder if the change in blocking scheme is the reason behind not drafting more help for the OLine. Does Kubiak think he can get more out of what he has with the change and is that why they didn't do more?

Maybe we'll see more on day 3.

 

[AgentDib]

In my view our first three picks were serious needs. The zone LG we never replaced in free agency, a DB who can cover TEs, and a big target with great catch radius who can get open downfield. Those are roles that we needed, even though iOL/S/TE are towards the bottom of the positional value stack.

Milroe looks more like a value pick, but even there I suspect Kubiak has some thoughts about immediate packages with him in the vein of Taysom Hill.

At the end of the day whether we're drafting BPA or need is interesting but unimportant because the upside of rookies is so high under the current CBA. All that really matter is that you hit on picks no matter the position, and having too many great young safeties or tight ends would still be an awesome problem to have.

 

[RehireMora]

I can't help but wonder if the change in blocking scheme is the reason behind not drafting more help for the OLine. Does Kubiak think he can get more out of what he has with the change and is that why they didn't do more?

Maybe we'll see more on day 3.

That's the big question! I no longer care what JS's opinion is on the OL, I know what he thinks and he will drive that squad into the ground.

However does Kubiak think that he pull a decent O-line with what is out there right now? If so, let's party.

I would have to guess the answer is yes, as mentioned above...these last couple of picks have been like the Hawks are playing with house money. They must be comfortable.

 

[seabowl]

I didn't necessarily expect the Hawks to use 2 of their first 4 (or 5) on OL, so only getting Zabel isn't an issue to me, but I only liked our first 2 picks. It seemed like Schneider was on the right track and then everything got derailed after we got Emmanwori.
A Tight End with almost no college production who missed 2 seasons...in the 2nd round?
A gadget QB when we already have enough QBs for two teams...in the 3rd round? Those are the types of players you use later picks on if they are still around. You don't use premium picks when you have a bunch of holes. Schneider did nothing in free agency so this was our last chance to add meaningful players. After the draft it's just old cast-offs past their prime.

First 2 picks both get an A from me, the next 2 picks get a D from me.is going to be the comparison right now. The TE who has a lot of injury history and not a lot of production versus getting say one of the two Georgia offensive lineman that play center or guard.

I didn't necessarily expect the Hawks to use 2 of their first 4 (or 5) on OL, so only getting Zabel isn't an issue to me, but I only liked our first 2 picks. It seemed like Schneider was on the right track and then everything got derailed after we got Emmanwori.
A Tight End with almost no college production who missed 2 seasons...in the 2nd round?
A gadget QB when we already have enough QBs for two teams...in the 3rd round? Those are the types of players you use later picks on if they are still around. You don't use premium picks when you have a bunch of holes. Schneider did nothing in free agency so this was our last chance to add meaningful players. After the draft it's just old cast-offs past their prime.

First 2 picks both get an A from me, the next 2 picks get a D from me.

That is going to be the comparison. Should we have taken a TE with little production and a lot of injury history over either of the two Georgia offensive lineman that can play center or guard?

 

[HawkRiderFan]

I can't help but wonder if the change in blocking scheme is the reason behind not drafting more help for the OLine. Does Kubiak think he can get more out of what he has with the change and is that why they didn't do more?

Maybe we'll see more on day 3.

This is what I am thinking too

 

[James in PA]

There are always trade offs. John and Mike could've kept all of their picks and gotten one more IOL, but then we wouldn't have gotten Emmanwori. They could have taken Jared Wilson with that last pick, but then they're passing on a QB they clearly see something in.

 

[Shane Falco]

There is really nothing left at OL to draft unless they want to add more developmental players which they really don't need unless they've seen enough of some of what we already have or have an eye on a specific guy that they see something in. We don't need more bodies, we have plenty. We need added talent which hopefully we did with Zabel, granted a lot of us wanted a couple top guys, but at least we got one of the top rated guy overall, that's a big deal.

I think center, right guard and swing tackle are all up for grabs and iffy at this point, with Olu / Sundell battling at centter and Bradford / Haynes battling at RG but am happy as a puppy with three peters they went and got one of the top IOL and can live with that and have some hope now that they can start to build this thing right.

I love the fact that they are talking about finding the best position fit for Zabel and leave him there for some years, music to my hears. Remember how every time they'd lose one guy they'd move another guy to fill his spot. Musical chairs, they did that a ton with Justin Britt and a lot of guys over the years. I think they are finally looking at building some continuity.

 

[Natethegreat]

Lots of good options at guard left., Marcus Mbow, Chase Lundt, Jackson Slater are all great options. I think we pick a NT next though. Some good DT are still out there.

 

[cymatica]

I can't help but wonder if the change in blocking scheme is the reason behind not drafting more help for the OLine. Does Kubiak think he can get more out of what he has with the change and is that why they didn't do more?

Maybe we'll see more on day 3.

Kubiak and Benton will improve the oline on day 1. Looking at our oline players in a vacuum, without considering scheme and coaching, is a lazy narrative