Vegas Seahawks 2024 season Win/Loss Total Odds

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So, IF you were a betting player, per "www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/win-totals" they have the total over/under at 7.5 wins.
I have faith that the Hawks will be over 7.5 wins myself, but before I head down to the local casino to lay down some green, thought I'd see what you all think about the win/loss total. Feel free to chime in 12's.

I get it, new head coach, staff, scheme and all the question marks, but again I have the faith.
 
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There is a lot of talent on defense, and Macdonald is going to put out a creative, disciplined team on that side of the ball. I'd have to think that's good for at least an 8-9 season. There is a lot of talent on offense as well obviously...and even if it takes longer to come together (as new offenses tend to do), it should still be dangerous enough to contribute to that 8-9 record.
 

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I think this team is going to surprise people. I'm putting the win total at 10-11 games, just barely making the play-offs.

Ok, ok - Maybe I'm dreaming lol.
 

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This is the 3rd year post Wilson. Had the team fulfilled its potential, we'd have improved from 2022 to 2023. 2024 would have been the year we were poised to contend for a championship. Im sure, given the draft hauls over the last few years, John saw / sees it that way. In most cases, a coaching change is the result of a failed team / model. This isnt such a case. The model is sound. The team is talented. The change in staff puts us back on track. Our record last year was the result of poor messaging and leadership. We should have never ended 9-8.

New leadership
New message
Building on the same model.

No reason we cant contend for it all.

11 wins. More than 2 wins in the post season.
 

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Last year they were 9-8. The offense was pretty solid but was limited by being predictable and finished 17th in points scored. The defense was, at points, historically bad and finished 25th in points allowed.

With largely the same personnel, will those units improve or decline?

My prediction is that the offense will start out at least as good as last year, with some hiccups as the players get used to the new schemes and get on the same page. It remains to be seen how well Grubb will transition to the NFL, but my glass is half full, thanks. I expect more imaginative playcalling from Grubb than we got from Waldron, scheming the playmakers open and for one of the most accurate passers in the league to be able to take advantage of that. We have two and maybe three RBs that I wouldn't mind seeing in the starting lineup. One of Grubb's reported strengths is adapting the offense to match his players' skillsets and I think that will help offset the subpar offensive line. I expect the offense to be firing on all cylinders by midseason.

On the defensive side, Macdonald is already a proven playcaller at the NFL level. We've already seen (in the huge sample size of a single preseason game :) ) a vast difference from the past few years in terms of defensive players being near the ball and in finishing tackles. Murphy has impressed both in the preseason game and in the joint practices and is a potential gamechanger. The secondary looks improved (with addition by subtraction and Woolen is looking to be more in line with his rookie year than last year), the DL looks improved. Linebackers are still a concern, and probably the one place we've lost some ground over the offseason.

Overall I would conservatively expect the D to improve from 25th to the top 15, optimistically maybe top 10 this year. The offense might start a little slow but I expect them to improve at least 5 slots into the top 12. That may also be a conservative guess. If both sides of the ball improve, then I'd expect a 1 to 2 game improvement this year, and a playoff berth. The biggest obstacle is that we're in a very strong division. The Whiners are the class of the NFC, and the Rams aren't that far removed from their own super bowl win.

Bottom line, I expect a 10 or 11 win season. Are my glasses rose colored? Well....yes. But it's the preseason so I get to be as hopeful as I want to be. ;)
 

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The argument I heard for the under on 7.5 wins was the schedule was incredibly difficult, but yes I would bet the over personally
 

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My other suggestion is that if you are looking for betting recommendations don’t ask for advice on a hawks board!
 

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I think this team is going to surprise people. I'm putting the win total at 10-11 games, just barely making the play-offs.

Ok, ok - Maybe I'm dreaming lol.
If they win 10 or 11 games they are definitely going to be in the playoffs with 7 teams
 

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Our coaching game planning and O. C. and defense were horrible and we still had 3 games we should've won that we lost last year
I'm with you , gonna put a little skin in the game too
A better defensive game plan and probably noticeably better on offense too , we really should be much better
 

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Well, there's the bit about cleaning house and replacing the entire coaching staff.

Some teams, that could create the possibility of much, much worse.
 

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This is the 3rd year post Wilson. Had the team fulfilled its potential, we'd have improved from 2022 to 2023. 2024 would have been the year we were poised to contend for a championship. Im sure, given the draft hauls over the last few years, John saw / sees it that way. In most cases, a coaching change is the result of a failed team / model. This isnt such a case. The model is sound. The team is talented. The change in staff puts us back on track. Our record last year was the result of poor messaging and leadership. We should have never ended 9-8.

New leadership
New message
Building on the same model.

No reason we cant contend for it all.

11 wins. More than 2 wins in the post season.
Pete's "model" eventually gave us a run defense that got gashed by opponents, especially our division rivals from CA, and especially in must-win games late in the season--Pittsburgh. Missing from the model were the elements necessary to stop the run.

Speculating... Pete's model required talent, physicality, and athleticism in the D-Line and front 7 that we didn't have, as much from Pete's final-authority GM failures, overpaying at the wrong spots for the wrong players and winding up outmanned in the trenches.

A tell-tale game was when Carolina ran it down our throats in our house in Dec. 2022 and beat the Seahawks on the road. Legendary interim coach Steve Wilks was the winning coach, with HOFers like the great Chuba Hubbard running roughshod over the Seahawks run defense. /sarc
 
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I put my money where my mouth is and placed a wager on the over. Simply not having the same coaching staff making the same stupid in-game mistakes is worth an extra 1 or 2 wins over last year.
 

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The argument I heard for the under on 7.5 wins was the schedule was incredibly difficult, but yes I would bet the over personally
The Seahawks actually have one of the easier schedules this year, with a lot of winnable games--Broncos, Patriots, Cardinals (twice), Bear, Vikings, Falcons, and Giants. So I think 8 wins seems more than doable.
 

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I want to see us win game #1. Then I'll worry about the rest of them.
Our schedule looks top heavy to me every year before the season begins so it's tough for me to conclude anything that way. I don't know enough about how tough the other teams will be. Judging that the Seahawks will be better than last year is an easy assumption to make. But counting on wins against teams I'm sure figure they will be better than last year leave me very little to go on. How much better will Cleveland be this year with their #1 QB available? As a player he has a history of being a tough out. Rams better than they were? I don't know about that but I know we should have at least split with them last year. Cards will be better this year and we only squeaked by them last year. My take on the 9er games last year wasn't nearly as bleak as what most seemed to think. Would take a lot of improvement on our part to make a lot of difference in those scores/outcomes.
I'll join the crew advocating we get 10-11 wins this year and hope for the best.
 
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