Why Milroe was a GREAT pick!!

[seabowl]

The opinions of the pick of Milroe for most on this board were either great or a waste of a pick. Very little in between. Here is why in my opinion it’s absolutely a slam dunk.

Quarterback is absolutely the toughest position to hit on. In most cases, you need to have either a top 5ish pick or get very very lucky with a pick later on. In the case of Milroe his arm strength and running ability is absolutely top-notch. Again, his running ability by many coaches is second to none!!! It’s what many are pointing to regarding his accuracy and game situational awareness as being the issue. Some of these same things were being said about Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen when they were coming out. Now they are considered 2 of the top three quarterbacks in the league.

With the 92nd pick the risk reward was 100% justified in taking a quarterback with second to none skill sets and to try and make him into a superstar. It’s unlikely Seattle will have a top 5 pick any time soon so this is where you take your shot with a late third round pick on greatness. If you miss, you didn’t set your franchise back at all. If you hit, it’s a generational jackpot win. I’d rather take a small risk for greatness than try and win a Super Bowl with good quarterbacks such as Geno or now Darnold.

Time will tell, but with the 92nd pick the risk reward was too good to pass up.

 

[cymatica]

And if he ends up starting in a few years we can go from Sam's Club to Milroe's Place

 

[Scout]

I think one thing people are missing about Milroe is that when he is on he is very precise as a passer on the boundary and over the top towards the sideline with fades. I think while he is gifted as a runner people are overlooking his throwing prowess.

Processing and identifying the mike and safeties pre snap is something all rookie QBs have to work on. That is why a lot of QBs that start their career struggle throwing over the middle because it can be challenging to make reads pre and post snap.

But Milroe has a feel for the game in passing situation by leadings WRs downfield and played against a higher caliber competition. So completion percentage can be misleading at the collegiate level for that reason as the level of competition is so varied.

 

[Nv_Hawks]

He’s an absolute weapon. This first year, defenses won’t know when he’s coming in and will need to adjust on the fly.

 

[SNDavidson]

I think one thing people are missing about Milroe is that when he is one he is very precise as a passer on the boundary and over the top towards the sideline with fades. I think while he is gifted as a runner people are overlooking his throwing prowess.

Processing and identifying the mike and safeties pre snap is something all rookie QBs have to work on. That is why a lot of QBs that start their career struggle throwing over the middle because it can be challenging to make reads pre and post snap.

But Milroe has a feel for the game in passing situation by leadings WRs downfield and played against a higher caliber competition. So completion percentage can be misleading at the collegiate level for that reason as the level of competition is so varied.

and he is such a threat on the ground he can use that on the perimeter to open up a receiver downfield by pulling defenders, wide zone the perfect offense for 75 yard td runs

 

[Trackhawk]

Agree, for a slightly different reason.

Milroe doesn’t need to have success at the QB position to be a good use of a third round pick.

If all he does is provide Taysom Hill level, decoy trickery, it’s a good use of a third round pick. Not great, but good.

If he fails as a QB, and finds success after converting to another position, it’s a great use of the pick.

If he somehow finds NFL Starter level success as a QB, well then, Schneider captured lightning in a bottle twice!

For it not to be a successful pick, he has to utterly fail to produce anything in the NFL, and that would put him on par with most third round picks. Not exactly a bad pick, or a waste of a pick, just the breaks.

Sometimes you have to take the easy gamble.

 

[Nosferatu]

In my opinion, Milroe is in a great position to learn with little to no pressure. My thoughts are that in Year 1 he will be in some packages (near goal line, probably) to exploit his athleticism. Hopefully he won't be starting any games because that would mean the injury bug arrived and/or the other QBs have been horrible.

He can learn a lot from Darnold in Year 1/2. In a way, it's great to have someone who failed at QB and then resurrected his career on another team. Hopefully Darnold can teach him what does/doesn't work for those two years and Milroe should be in line to start Year 3.

I have friends in Cleveland who said the Browns really were hoping Milroe would fall to them and panic-picked Gabriel after we leapt ahead and grabbed Milroe.

Really looking forward to watching him learn and progress.

 

[Rat]

Agree, for a slightly different reason.

Milroe doesn’t need to have success at the QB position to be a good use of a third round pick.

If all he does is provide Taysom Hill level, decoy trickery, it’s a good use of a third round pick. Not great, but good.

If he fails as a QB, and finds success after converting to another position, it’s a great use of the pick.

If he somehow finds NFL Starter level success as a QB, well then, Schneider captured lightning in a bottle twice!

For it not to be a successful pick, he has to utterly fail to produce anything in the NFL, and that would put him on par with most third round picks. Not exactly a bad pick, or a waste of a pick, just the breaks.

Sometimes you have to take the easy gamble.

Third round QBs have a shockingly poor hit rate, so if he falls in line with the 95%+ of them who never become more than backups, itll be a wash in that regard, but there will be the wasted opportunity cost on finding a player at a different position who could have contributed much more.

Milroe was pretty open in pre-draft process that he's only interested in being a QB. If he ends up converting to another position, it'll likely be due to a lack of options, which probably would come years down the line with another team.

 

[legend38]

Matt Flynn= Sam Darnold
Russell Wilson= Jalen Milroe

 

[Tusc2000]

Milroe as a QB = Justin Fields at best, Anthony Richardson at worst. Neither is ideal.

Milroe as a Gadget Guy = Forget About It. Nothing about him says Tayson Hill, especially since he does not want that role.

Milroe is a WASTED 3RD ROUND PICK. Not only does he have limited upside in terms of ever seeing the playing firld, we have squandered an opportunity to fill other needs with some quality talent at other positions still available in the 3rd round.

 

[Kamcussionator]

I really like the idea of him getting under center 10-15 plays a game and running RPO stuff. Imagine the headache for defenses when the QB is more dangerous than the trailing back. AND because he's not the starter, he can be as aggressive as he wants. Nobody is going to tell him to get down in traffic. It's like platooning Darnold with a rookie Michael Vick.

Oh, and the stuff Milroe struggles with? Short to Intermediate routes, but his deep ball is excellent. So if they put 8 men in the box to stop his running, he's got a single high safety look to audible into.

 

[Hotchy]

If a team wants someone like Milroe, that means they know how to use him(or at least think they do). So if they're committed to catering to this unique talent, than the upside is way to great not to take a swing. If it was any other QB without that high ceiling I might have been annoyed at the direction.

 

[Rat]

I really like the idea of him getting under center 10-15 plays a game and running RPO stuff. Imagine the headache for defenses when the QB is more dangerous than the trailing back. AND because he's not the starter, he can be as aggressive as he wants. Nobody is going to tell him to get down in traffic. It's like platooning Darnold with a rookie Michael Vick.

There's probably a reasons teams never do that despite an abundance of athletic RPO specialist QBs. I'm guessing they don't want to take their starters out of their rhythm. I can't remember the last successful team that platooned QBs.

 

[Smellyman]

This video from a cup of coffee in the NFL QB is pretty good. Good coaching can clean him up, but he can make all the throws. it is all about the little things.
UGA V Alabama

 

[Kamcussionator]

There's probably a reasons teams never do that despite an abundance of athletic RPO specialist QBs. I'm guessing they don't want to take their starters out of their rhythm. I can't remember the last successful team that platooned QBs.

Because QBs are rare and expensive, and RPO often means your QB takes hits. But Milroe is not the starter. He gets dinged up and needs a rest, no problem. Darnold carries the load per usual.

Platooning hasn't worked since last year when our Offensive Coordinator did it in New Orleans.

 

[Hotchy]

Also the mechanics are perfect, as this pick won't challenge Darnold's feeling of his status. Darnold is good enough to buy us patience with Milroe's development where this should be a healthy and beneficial QB1/QB2 relationship. And both seem to have good personalities for it

 

[Rat]

Matt Flynn= Sam Darnold
Russell Wilson= Jalen Milroe

Those are terrible comparisons that are going to lead to unrealistic expectations.

Flynn had a very limited sample size and we took a chance that his success in those limited opportunities would translate to a full-time job. Darnold has a very sufficient sample size as a starter, but concerns about whether he come overcome his past failures in the higher-pressure situations. There really aren't any questions about whether Darnold can at least be the guy for the regular season.

Russ didn't need his throwing mechanics completely overhauled. He was NFL-ready from a skillset standpoint; all the questions surrounding him were about whether he could make it work in the pros at his height, which nobody had done consistently before.

So, this is a case with a much more proven starter and a much more raw backup. I don't believe Russ was drafted with the intention of starting right away either, but there was a much more legitimate possibility even at the time that Russ COULD win the job. If Milroe starts over a healthy Darnold to begin the season, chances are that Darnold tanked mentally for some reason.

 

[Rat]

Platooning hasn't worked since last year when our Offensive Coordinator did it in New Orleans.

Taysom Hill attempted four passes last season, completing two of them for 21 yards and an INT. He was largely used as a TE. Is that really the same as "platooning" QBs?

And whether it "worked" is debatable too. The Saints were pretty bad last season.

 

[Fresno Hawk]

JS is going the Greenbay way of developing a drafted QB. Pick one you veiw as a potential starter, let him sit and learn. Then 2 years down the road he gets his shot. This has worked forever with Greenbay. They have always had a good QB because of this. I for one am just happy we drafted a QB. I was one of the ones who would have like Sanders, but I'm ok with Milroe aswell. I think it's because, WE DRAFTED A QB MAN!

 

[GLio14]

I've had the pleasure of watching Milroe grow throughout his career. My fiance went to Alabama, so it's a ritual every Saturday to watch Bama games.

Milroe quickly became one of my favorite Alabama players.

His running ability doesn't need to be mentioned. He's an elite runner and incredibly elusive.

He has a CANNON, and very accurate on deep balls. He definitely won't have a problem throwing for distance in the NFL. He had an insane chemistry with Ryan Williams.

My one qualm with him is his ability to read defenses. Some of his decision making did cost the Tide a few games down the stretch, and he was pretty bad in his final Alabama game.

However, I don't know if that is indicative on him never being settled with an offensive coordinator. Tommy Rees was his coordinator in his first year where Bama made the CFP, but I wasn't very crazy about him. Next season, it was Nick Sheridan who was abhorrent.

The one thing that will allow him to develop into an NFL quarterback is his ambition. I'm truly impressed with how mature this young man is and his ability to look in the mirror and understand his flaws and how to improve them.

I think there will be some growing pains with Jalen, but in my. honest opinion, he's worth it. I was so beyond happy when we drafted him.