3rd downs

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I have contended for a long time that 3rd’s have been the metric key to many of their losses and skews the other stat metrics used to evaluate individual performance.
Last years 3rd passing

3rd & 4-6
33-53 62.26% 28 first downs 5 sacks

3rd & 7-9
14-24 58.33% 10 first downs 5 sacks

3rd & 10+
17-34 54.84% 7 first downs 5 sacks
 

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Flyingsquad23":20rvb46l said:
I have contended for a long time that 3rd’s have been the metric key to many of their losses and skews the other stat metrics used to evaluate individual performance.
Last years 3rd passing

3rd & 4-6
33-53 62.26% 28 first downs 5 sacks

3rd & 7-9
14-24 58.33% 10 first downs 5 sacks

3rd & 10+
17-34 54.84% 7 first downs 5 sacks


you just illustrated the biggest issue 52.25% of our 3rd down were 7+ yards no one is going to be successful were over half their 3rd downs are over 7 yards For that matter 4-6 is not 3rd and short either.
 

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Flyingsquad23":2mxb6fxq said:
I have contended for a long time that 3rd’s have been the metric key to many of their losses and skews the other stat metrics used to evaluate individual performance.
Last years 3rd passing

3rd & 4-6
33-53 62.26% 28 first downs 5 sacks

3rd & 7-9
14-24 58.33% 10 first downs 5 sacks

3rd & 10+
17-34 54.84% 7 first downs 5 sacks

Did you see the number of 3rd downs that were less than 4 yards?

Thank you, by the way, for getting these metrics. I appreciate it.
 

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Flyingsquad23":17n7oujb said:
I have contended for a long time that 3rd’s have been the metric key to many of their losses and skews the other stat metrics used to evaluate individual performance.
Last years 3rd passing

3rd & 4-6
33-53 62.26% 28 first downs 5 sacks

3rd & 7-9
14-24 58.33% 10 first downs 5 sacks

3rd & 10+
17-34 54.84% 7 first downs 5 sacks

Thanks for this. One thing stands out to me - how many 3rd and 10+ situations there are. I would love to know (not a hint for you to do this btw!) how that stacks up with league average.
 

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For the Hawks on 3rd and less than 4
Run
24 carries 15 first downs
Pass
21-29 72.4% 20 first downs

And I checked a couple other teams
T.B.
33-58 32 fd
11-25 7 fd
31-44 8 fd

G.B.
34-49 29 fd
20-32 15 fd
20-36 12 fd

K.C.
34-49 29 fd
17-26 16 fd
18-39 10 fd

All these numbers come from https://www.pro-football-reference.com/
 

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Flyingsquad23":tny7vxfb said:
For the Hawks on 3rd and less than 4
Run
24 carries 15 first downs
Pass
21-29 72.4% 20 first downs

And I checked a couple other teams
T.B.
33-58 32 fd
11-25 7 fd
31-44 8 fd

G.B.
34-49 29 fd
20-32 15 fd
20-36 12 fd

K.C.
34-49 29 fd
17-26 16 fd
18-39 10 fd

All these numbers come from https://www.pro-football-reference.com/


So qe are great on 3rd and short, and bad at 3rd and long. Again hard to be successful in 3rd down when iver 50% are 3rd and long
 
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