chris98251 wrote:If I remember correctly Dan Marinos was 16...………..
Yeah, that's what's on record for Marino... 16.
Jim Kelly also had a similar score, by all accounts. I didn't ever find the story behind Marino's 16 score. Obviously, both he and Jim Kelly were very smart, articulate team leaders and NFL HOF QBs.
More recently, I do know that DB Morris Claiborne was subjected to ridicule for a score of 4 (or was it 6), and learning disabilities were involved. My girlfriend is dyslexic, and taking college classes now, and I've concluded that her dyslexia costs her a FULL LETTER GRADE LOWER in each class, and that grades tend to measure her disability more than her ability and effort. With accommodations for her disability, such as being able to have online learning systems and tests that support the fonts Open Dyslexic or Dyslexie font, she does much better. Also, she needs extra time on tests, like on math tests, to do the entire test TWICE, and if the answers differ, find out where she flipped numbers in the transcribing process. Also, Frank Gore scored unusually low, and we've seen him shred the Seahawk defense numerous times over the years.
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The Wonderlic is a timed test. I've taken sample versions of it, just to get a feel for it, and I score decently, say the tier below Ryan Fitzpatrick and Pat McInally, in the tier with Eli, Aaron, and Tom, but my score can easily vary 5 points based on my state of mind at the time. In an alternate life, that may have helped me qualify for a position breaking down film as a QA coaching assistant, but that's about it.
My feeling is that the Wonderlic is a valid instrument, with its own limitations, just like a 40 time, but only to show if additional scrutiny is needed, not an end in itself. High scores guarantee nothing. Unusually low scores indicate a need for understanding why the player scored so low. Learning disabilities? Dyslexia? NFL football players need to be SMART, and to digest and process and analyze a lot of information quickly. The Wonderlic measures that in a paper-based exercise, which absolutely has limitations in translation to a real-life high-speed physical setting of an NFL game.
From: https://www.courier-journal.com/story/s ... 481414002/
"New York Giants general manager George Young once told the Philadelphia Daily News a low Wonderlic score would cause him to look more closely, talking to coaches, examining school records and possibly using alternative tests to assess a player's ability to learn."
I recall Pete Carroll talking in the past about dealing with players with learning disabilities, and realizing when a player has that, and then finding ways of giving those players support and accommodations they need, to take in and process information at an NFL level.
As all this applies to Geno Smith, his poor judgment in dealing with the DE who broke his jaw is a much bigger concern than his Wonderlic. What has he learned? Has he developed the character to be a team leader if the 'Hawks need him to step in for a few games if Russell is unavailable? Does his overall story show that he is teachable, resilient, and has the potential to learn from Russell's example?
Paxton Lynch has his own set of question marks, on his study and work habits. Topic for a different day and thread.
Will either one be of any use in the QB meeting room, with Russell, reviewing film, studying opponents, helping the coaches develop game plans? I'm hoping that's the biggest assignment our QB2 has.