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Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:26 pm
  • Not enough tape yet, but anybody feel like we're better with the current combo this playoff run?
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:27 pm
  • C'mon man.
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:27 pm
  • I love Lynch and Homer looks promising. But the Carson/Penny combo was looking really good before they both got hurt. Carson is a top 10 back in the league imo. I don't think it's even close to be honest. This team was really good at pounding the rock with Carson and Penny.
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:30 pm
  • No...not at al...better than Procice for sure though. I think if we had Penny and Carson a few of these games would not of been this close.
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:33 pm
  • Exactly how I feel. It was such a huge momentum killer when Carson went down, at least for the running game.
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:33 pm
  • Homer/Lynch to Carson/Penny is not even close though you have to like Lynch's fight when close to goal line.

    I absolutely love me some Beastmode but not having both Carson and Penny is step backwards.
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:39 pm
  • Dude.

    Lynch is HOF quality back in his prime. Stud. But he isn't what he was, still impressive but if you need yards you probably want that ball going to Carson instead of Lynch. I am all about Lynch getting more carries. This is amazing stuff, but a healthy Carson in his prime vs an aging Lynch is not a hard decision.

    Homer is a poor man's Lindsay. He is a serviceable if not a solid 3rd down back. He is a guy that catches the ball or gets to the edges for yardage. Good in space, but nowhere near what Penny would do in space.

    Homer is OK, but that is it. Penny has flashed amazing moments, still not consistent enough. Homer has had some good plays but nothing amazing. He is 4th string for a reason.
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:40 pm
  • Someone is still drunk from Sunday. :)
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:44 pm
  • I miss carson dearly and penny was really starting to find the groove. not sure if beast mode would play along but anyone want him to stay around as a 3rd string rb next year? he may not even be interested in that but he seems to be having fun, brings a lot of emotion to the team, he wouldn't have to worry about getting beat up and hes most likely even at that age much better than any other 3rd string back.
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:05 pm
  • I won't say Carson/Penny but I will say Homer/Beast over Procise....so when option 1 and 2 were down, I'd rather have jumped to option 4 vs option 3. The Procise experiement is over.
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:06 pm
  • I'll tell you one thing I do not miss, Chris Carson's fumbles. Dude may have lost NO game, and he certainly tried to lose PHI and Pitt for us.

    I also, like how they aren't running as much. Certainly the Hawks realize that they'll need to rely on the passing game a bit more which is a bonus.
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:08 pm
  • LOL! No. Interesting talking point, and I am amazed that they played as well as they did last week.

    I love Marshawn, but he's a bit tentative, and not as strong as Carson, or fast/elusive as Penny. Lynch is jumping a lot more now, but it seems to be effective.

    I think Homer can be a starting running back in this league. He was that good in college, but he kept dealing with injuries that I put on the Miami staff.
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:09 pm
  • SpokaneHawks wrote:Not enough tape yet, but anybody feel like we're better with the current combo this playoff run?


    No!
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:13 pm
  • Ugh no.........Carson and Penny coming on strong the last part of the season would be a great combo to have right now.
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:23 pm
  • I'd argue that the Penny loss was worse then the Carson loss. Carson is a beast/grinder, but is more prone to fumbling, and cannot hit the home run. Penny takes care of the ball, and was beginning to collect quite a few explosive plays.

    Let's also not forget what happened when we had both of them the last time they played PHI. Philly is an elite run stopping team in the NFL.

    Seattle Rushing
    CAR YDS AVG TD LONG
    Rashaad Penny 14 129 9.2 1 58
    Chris Carson 8 26 3.3 0 6
    Russell Wilson 3 15 5.0 0 16
    David Moore 1 4 4.0 0

    (Carson with 2 fumbles)
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:36 pm
  • As much as I love how hard Homer runs, and as much as I love Marshawn..........and I REALLY love Marshawn. In no world are they a better combo than Carson/Penny.

    As we saw yesterday Homer's not big enough to run effectively between the tackles, and even if you give Lynch an entire training camp to get his lungs and fitness back, he's no more than a goal line 10 snaps a game RB now.

    Both Carson and Penny are premier bell cow NFL RB's. No comparison for me.
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:43 pm
  • Chris Carson finished the season as the 5th leading rusher in the NFL for the second consecutive year. He's arguably a top 5 RB in the league. Certainly a top 10 RB.

    Marshawns TD run yesterday was awesome. Loved seeing a glimpse Marshawn going Beast Mode. But other than that one run, Marshawn and Homer got shut down. I don't see any way that the Carson/Penny combo gets shut down like that.
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:52 pm
  • Love the one your'e with.
    Comparisons like this do a disservice to both pairs of players.
    We have Homer and Lynch right now. They will be exactly as good as our O Line and their individual talents can make them. I have no doubt they will do their absolute best for us. Can't ask for more than that.
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:58 pm
  • I mean, Homer and Lynch averaged about 1.5 yards/carry against the Eagles. Carson and Penny averaged right around 5.5 yards/carry.

    This isn’t even a conversation.
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:05 pm
  • knownone wrote:I mean, Homer and Lynch averaged about 1.5 yards/carry against the Eagles. Carson and Penny averaged right around 5.5 yards/carry.

    This isn’t even a conversation.


    Beat me to it. Do people actually watch the games or just rewind beastquake when Lynch's name is mentioned??
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:12 pm
  • You can't extrapolate playoff performance to how dudes would do throughout OTAs/TC and the whole season.

    Marshawn's running on playoff fuel, which hopefully will take him and us further. But even Pete said he didn't see Marshawn having more than five games in him at the time of the resigning. That was the last SF game plus the playoff run.

    Homer as a back is small, not ideal for running the Beast power run model that PC likes--far less than Carson or Penny. He is the CJ Prosise of next year, in for situational snaps, lot of ST work.
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:27 pm
  • SpokaneHawks wrote:Not enough tape yet, but anybody feel like we're better with the current combo this playoff run?



    NO and NO!!
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:41 pm
  • Homer is better than Prosise, but it ends there. Can't wait for the Carson, Penny, Homer backfield next season
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:05 pm
  • SpokaneHawks wrote:Not enough tape yet, but anybody feel like we're better with the current combo this playoff run?


    not me
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:07 pm
  • Uh no. Not even close.

    In addition to the quantitative measures that have been posted in these forums showing the Seahawks with the #1 or #2 most injuries measured by player games missed, you could actually make a qualitative argument that the Seahawks losing their top three running backs all at once, given the construction and identity of that offense, is the most devastaing loss to any offensive unit in the NFL this year short of starter QB injuries.
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:05 pm
  • We don't even know if Lynch has his second gear back. If he breaks a run and gets daylight, can he reach even Carson speeds, or does he get lapped like T.J. Duckett?
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:11 pm
  • Not just no, but hell no
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:30 pm
  • Agreed. Jones/Hunt > Iupati/Britt too.
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:43 pm
  • No comparison altho I do love the effort beast puts out. Would be tacklers still take a pounding trying to bring him down. In his glory years he would gain the yards and TDS but what he seemed best at was wearing down a defense
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:50 pm
  • SpokaneHawks wrote:Not enough tape yet, but anybody feel like we're better with the current combo this playoff run?



    LOL
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:55 pm
  • SpokaneHawks wrote:Not enough tape yet, but anybody feel like we're better with the current combo this playoff run?

    No. Not at all.
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:27 pm
  • Absolutely we are better with Carson. That being said is there anyway we can keep Lynch on the roster or the locker room next year?
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:30 pm
  • Smellyman wrote:Agreed. Jones/Hunt > Iupati/Britt too.

    I would say that's only about the same level of crazy. If you're trying to one up the OP then you need to propose something like Tedric/Lano > Quandre/Bradley.
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:05 pm
  • At this exact moment, I'd definitely take Homer/Lynch over Carson/Penny. Carson and Penny would get crushed out there if they tried to play on their injuries.
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:24 pm
  • Now if we are wishing a Lynch in 2012 and Carson now would be a hell of a one two punch.

    Both run with physical abandon, both block, both catch both have decent speed.
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:02 pm
  • SpokaneHawks wrote:Not enough tape yet, but anybody feel like we're better with the current combo this playoff run?


    :thsnooty:
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:11 pm
  • Beast Mode is taking us all the way to the Super Bowl, and yes this time he will get the Ball... Unfinished Business that needs to happen... :irishdrinkers:
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:59 am
  • This thread coming off a 17/19 yds game lol
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:57 am
  • Yikes....
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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:01 am
  • Bambi > Godzilla

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Re: Homer/Lynch > Carson/Penny
Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:59 am
  • Not even close. Carson...no explanation necessary. Penny was starting to come into his own.

    But, the question leads to an interesting point. Is the TEAM better with Homer and Lynch? We certainly don't have enough games to answer this but, the offensive play calling changed quite a bit and in my opinion, influenced RW to be more decisive with scrambling.

    Philly had a stout run defense. Perhaps the playcalling wasn't a result of losing our best backs but, maybe we learned something after running our heads into a wall, huddle, repeat that we did against Dallas last year.

    GBs run defense isn't that good...at all. I fear that we "stick with the gameplan" and decide to not mix it up. Under normal circumstances, with everyone healthy, I get it. Attack your opponent's weakness. PC already mentioned Lynch getting more carries. While I love Lynch and think both him and Homer should fair well vs GB, we really should play to OUR strengths which just so happens to not be our run game in it's current state.

    We need to see DK and Tyler getting targeted (10+ each), play actions, and RW picking up 50+ on the ground. I don't think we win this with 17 or less. Especially if we're in our base, soft zone. Rodgers is going to pick that apart.

    Jeez...huge rant..off-topic....

    Carson/Penny > Homer/Lynch
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