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Our Punter.
Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:53 pm
  • Is Michael Dickson the best punter in the league? First, let's not forget he punts in a cold, damp-air city and his average is in the top-5. Not that I watch any other punters, but this guy kicks bombs, he gets it off quick, and he's pretty accurate when he has to be.

    Kudos to you MD.
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Re: Our Punter.
Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:02 pm
  • All-Pro and Pro Bowl in his first year if I'm not mistaken? Dude is so good we almost take him for granted.

    He almost makes you look forward to punting.

    I said almost.
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Re: Our Punter.
Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:03 pm
  • He's a good punter and a good field goal holder, which is the most underappreciated position in football
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Re: Our Punter.
Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:09 pm
  • Yes...sometimes our fandom gets in the way of objectivity....

    But this ?

    Not even close. There is not another punter in the NFL I would take over Dickson.
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Re: Our Punter.
Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:10 pm
  • Aros wrote:All-Pro and Pro Bowl in his first year if I'm not mistaken? Dude is so good we almost take him for granted.

    He almost makes you look forward to punting.

    I said almost.


    Lol nice :lol:

    The times that I've seen the pocket collapse around him and I think he might get blocked, he does a short wind-up to get it off... and still gets 50+ yards easily. It's amazing, and yes... we definitely take that for granted.
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Re: Our Punter.
Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:55 pm
  • He's as good as I've ever seen. AND you should see him drop-kick field goals! He's darned good at it.
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Re: Our Punter.
Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:57 am
  • Best punter in the league. Hands Down. Damn Aussie can play.
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Re: Our Punter.
Wed Oct 07, 2020 5:08 am
  • MVP! MVP!! MVP!!! ........Oh wait lol
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Re: Our Punter.
Wed Oct 07, 2020 7:09 am
  • Dickson is a very good punter, but he has one of the most unorthodox form. He always looks like he is trying a chip shot....even if he is one his own 20 yard line. He often has very little leg extension or elevation. Not complaining...if it works, it works.

    Compare his form to another great punter, Ray Guy:

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Re: Our Punter.
Wed Oct 07, 2020 7:39 am
  • Dickson is really solid this year but I do believe the best one is still Morstead, Super boring of style but never saw a guy that consistent in the past years. Sanchez from the Colts is also a monster in placement punts.

    But I still really love Dickson! No hate on him.
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Re: Our Punter.
Wed Oct 07, 2020 7:42 am
  • He's one of the best in the league, w/out a doubt. I seem to remember some people blasting him last year like he was a bust or something. Nope
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Re: Our Punter.
Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:48 am
  • Seems like no matter where he's kicking from he has a knack for getting it to die inside their 20 or deeper. Uncanny.
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Re: Our Punter.
Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:35 am
  • I believe he has more punts inside the 20 than anyone else. Doesn't matter if he has to kick it 60 yards in order to get that result, or 35 yards. That's an amazing ability, and inside the 20 placement in punting is the only stat that matters.
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Re: Our Punter.
Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:01 am
  • I still can't believe that he was the MVP of the bowl game Texas played in a few years back.

    A punter...

    MVP of a bowl game.

    Crazy.
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Re: Our Punter.
Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:09 pm
  • When we let Ryan go I was hurt. How could they let our MVP punter go when he played such an important role.

    Then this guy comes along and is better?
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Re: Our Punter.
Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:18 pm
  • Sox-n-Hawks wrote:Best punter in the league. Hands Down. Damn Aussie can play.


    Yep
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Re: Our Punter.
Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:01 pm
  • He is the sole reason why SF went out and got their "Australian" punter after what "Big Balls" Dickson did to them in his rookie year!
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Re: Our Punter.
Wed Oct 07, 2020 7:52 pm
  • John Ryan will forever live in infamy from Seattle. He is legendary. But this kid is the best punter I've seen since Ray Guy.
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Re: Our Punter.
Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:34 am
  • Nunya wrote:Dickson is a very good punter, but he has one of the most unorthodox form. He always looks like he is trying a chip shot....even if he is one his own 20 yard line. He often has very little leg extension or elevation. Not complaining...if it works, it works.

    Compare his form to another great punter, Ray Guy:

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    I don't think form is a good comparison at all.
    I punted in HS. Jeff West of the Seahawks was my coach.
    I could at the time punt further than Jeff West. What I couldn't do was keep the ball in the air longer than him.
    I think the leg extension has to do with hanging that thing up there forever?
    Dickson doesn't look like the ball rolls off of his foot like Jeff taught me. It looks as if his foot punches the ball so to speak.
    It's definitely different, and as you said, whatever works.
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Re: Our Punter.
Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:56 am
  • Dickson played Australian rules football, where they are often kicking the ball on the run. I think that makes for the shorter leg stroke and a choppier looking motion. It is unorthodox per American standards, but he obviously still gets distance and his accuracy is top 5 in the NFL, at least.

    I remember a comment I heard many years ago. I don't remember exactly what sport it was but it's probably universal. The "follow through" is generally over emphasized. What happens after the ball leaves doesn't really matter. The reason some coaches emphasize follow through is that changing that usually changes what you do before you strike the ball.

    Dickson looked a bit more ordinary in 2019, but he looks like he's back to his rookie form now.
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Re: Our Punter.
Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:00 am
  • ivotuk wrote:I believe he has more punts inside the 20 than anyone else. Doesn't matter if he has to kick it 60 yards in order to get that result, or 35 yards. That's an amazing ability, and inside the 20 placement in punting is the only stat that matters.


    Excellent point. He gets so much elevation on his punts, that he's the only guy who (when he) kicks 50+ yard punts, there's a chance of a fair catch. I've seen him punt one over 60 yards that was a fair catch. This is crazy.
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Re: Our Punter.
Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:25 am
  • seahawks-in-qc wrote:Dickson is really solid this year but I do believe the best one is still Morstead, Super boring of style but never saw a guy that consistent in the past years. Sanchez from the Colts is also a monster in placement punts.

    But I still really love Dickson! No hate on him.


    Morstead, really? He's ranked 29th in average yards per punt (which doesn't tell the whole story because maybe the Saints punt a lot more in acurracy territory) and he's ranked 32nd (dead last) in longest single punt.

    With Dickson being tied in 1st in punt results within the 20 yd line, it obviously means that he's had plenty of accuracy punts as well. Having said that, Michael Dickson's average (50.9 yards) is 0.1 yards less than Morstead's longest single punt (51 yards) of the season. :mrgreen:
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Re: Our Punter.
Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:32 am
  • ZorntoLargent wrote:
    Nunya wrote:Dickson is a very good punter, but he has one of the most unorthodox form. He always looks like he is trying a chip shot....even if he is one his own 20 yard line. He often has very little leg extension or elevation. Not complaining...if it works, it works.

    Compare his form to another great punter, Ray Guy:

    Image

    Image


    I don't think form is a good comparison at all.
    I punted in HS. Jeff West of the Seahawks was my coach.
    I could at the time punt further than Jeff West. What I couldn't do was keep the ball in the air longer than him.
    I think the leg extension has to do with hanging that thing up there forever?
    Dickson doesn't look like the ball rolls off of his foot like Jeff taught me. It looks as if his foot punches the ball so to speak.
    It's definitely different, and as you said, whatever works.

    I think the pic comps say they don't compare but that's ok.
    There was only one Ray Guy and most of us in Seattle before
    the Hawks saw him plenty,as his pic shows I never saw a
    punter with that extreme of leg extended.
    The only other punter I think that compares with Guy is Reggie
    Roby,That is not a slight at our punter at all.I hope MD has
    many great years and makes the HOF,if I remember there is
    only one punter in it now.
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Re: Our Punter.
Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:16 am
  • IndyHawk wrote:I think the pic comps say they don't compare but that's ok.
    There was only one Ray Guy and most of us in Seattle before
    the Hawks saw him plenty,as his pic shows I never saw a
    punter with that extreme of leg extended.
    The only other punter I think that compares with Guy is Reggie
    Roby,That is not a slight at our punter at all.I hope MD has
    many great years and makes the HOF,if I remember there is
    only one punter in it now.


    Yes, and that one punter in the HoF is Ray Guy.
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Re: Our Punter.
Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:45 am
  • Dickson deserved a better fate on Sunday. Two absolutely gorgeous punts pinning the Viking deep but the D did not hold up their end of the deal
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Re: Our Punter.
Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:12 am
  • First, I don't know much about punting....

    However, I have tried to go to Training Camp most years since they moved to VMAC and it was open to the public. 2 years ago when Dickson came to the team, he stuck out immediately. Of course, it's right after his Bowl performance so he wasn't anonymous to begin with, but they way he practiced was absolutely unique. He was out on the field before anyone else. Then he did this weird thing where he'd do a lunge and kick in between each one as he moved down the field, trying to get the ball to land in the same place as he moved. Then he did kicks that would bounce sideways-out of bounds, but in conjunction with like aerobic exercises and stretches. I remember thinking it was the craziest thing I ever saw at TC. When the rest of the team came out, the kickers went to the far field and he would kick balls that would go to the same place but bounce in different directions. They weren't all perfect, but you could see they'd bounce left, right, back and forward/roll. Then he'd change field position and do it again. ... and he'd do squats or stretches in between kicks. ...just weird.

    I think, last year, was a sophomore slump. I think the way he tries to "perfect his craft" will continue to improve his results for a lot of years to come. I recall RWilson commenting 2 years ago about Dickson's work ethic as well.

    All in all, I've never really cared about punts and now I really like watching that part of the game. Of course we'd all rather see 1st downs than punts, but I have to admit that I look forward to seeing Dickson. It's crazy to see how he effects games. I predict that, within 3 years, we'll start seeing replays on TV periodically showing how he gets different bounces.
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