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Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:05 am
  • I'm a relatively new member of this forum, but it's something that I've wanted to address for a little while now. I'm also a member of numerous other forums, from sports teams to different hobbies and such. Before I even begin my post, I'll probably get a few "If you don't like it, leave" replies, so let's just get that out of the way lol.

    Something that I've noticed, and a question I've been wanting to ask is: Why are Seahawks fans (especially on this forum) so divisive and hostile towards each other? I've never seen a fan forum, where members constantly attack each other for their opinions, or being a little less knowledgeable about the team. Even the silliest little things like mis-spellings, or mis-quotes, people are so quick to jump on a fellow member. Browsing other teams' boards, there just seems to be much more camaraderie, and more of an "us against the world" attitude, than we seem to have here. It may seem silly, but on an NFL team forum, isn't it us against the world (so to speak)?

    Even on the new members area, I've never seen a forum with so little welcoming. Has anyone noticed the amount of new members who have one or two posts, and then are never heard from again? This area on other forums that I've been on (not just sports teams) are usually full of welcome parties, making new members feel well... "welcomed" :mrgreen:. Reading a lot of the threads on this forum, it's easy to speculate on why they don't want to stick out their head and post again.

    People spend so much of their time and energy antagonizing each other here, that I just wanted to remind everyone, that in the end, we're ALL Seahawks fans. We're all on the same side, pulling for one team. From all around the world, we have this in common, and it is something special. Let's not forget that.

    TypeSly, from Canada.
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:26 am
  • TypeSly wrote:I'm a relatively new member of this forum, but it's something that I've wanted to address for a little while now. I'm also a member of numerous other forums, from sports teams to different hobbies and such. Before I even begin my post, I'll probably get a few "If you don't like it, leave" replies, so let's just get that out of the way lol.

    Something that I've noticed, and a question I've been wanting to ask is: Why are Seahawks fans (especially on this forum) so divisive and hostile towards each other? I've never seen a fan forum, where members constantly attack each other for their opinions, or being a little less knowledgeable about the team. Even the silliest little things like mis-spellings, or mis-quotes, people are so quick to jump on a fellow member. Browsing other teams' boards, there just seems to be much more camaraderie, and more of an "us against the world" attitude, than we seem to have here. It may seem silly, but on an NFL team forum, isn't it us against the world (so to speak)?

    Even on the new members area, I've never seen a forum with so little welcoming. Has anyone noticed the amount of new members who have one or two posts, and then are never heard from again? This area on other forums that I've been on (not just sports teams) are usually full of welcome parties, making new members feel well... "welcomed" :mrgreen:. Reading a lot of the threads on this forum, it's easy to speculate on why they don't want to stick out their head and post again.

    People spend so much of their time and energy antagonizing each other here, that I just wanted to remind everyone, that in the end, we're ALL Seahawks fans. We're all on the same side, pulling for one team. From all around the world, we have this in common, and it is something special. Let's not forget that.

    TypeSly, from Canada.

    Welcome! :2thumbs:

    I think it’s a social media thing from my experience.
    Not making excuses for any perceived bad behavior here, but I’ve seen it much worse on other forums.
    Especially political forums.

    I’ve found the more specialized forums the more civil.
    There is an industry forum I frequent that there is no issues ever.
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:41 am
  • Great points, Type. Unfortunately, you'll have to get used to it, Seahawks dot negative indeed. It's ridiculous. Even when they win, many act like they are actually angry. They would rather be RIGHT about a loss, as if that's somehow a good thing. And then there's the blatant refusal to eat crow and/or give credit when they win.
    Oh well, overall it's a great place to talk sports, other than getting blasted or threatened on a message board.
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:50 am
  • TypeSly wrote:I'm a relatively new member of this forum, but it's something that I've wanted to address for a little while now. I'm also a member of numerous other forums, from sports teams to different hobbies and such. Before I even begin my post, I'll probably get a few "If you don't like it, leave" replies, so let's just get that out of the way lol.

    Something that I've noticed, and a question I've been wanting to ask is: Why are Seahawks fans (especially on this forum) so divisive and hostile towards each other? I've never seen a fan forum, where members constantly attack each other for their opinions, or being a little less knowledgeable about the team. Even the silliest little things like mis-spellings, or mis-quotes, people are so quick to jump on a fellow member. Browsing other teams' boards, there just seems to be much more camaraderie, and more of an "us against the world" attitude, than we seem to have here. It may seem silly, but on an NFL team forum, isn't it us against the world (so to speak)?

    Even on the new members area, I've never seen a forum with so little welcoming. Has anyone noticed the amount of new members who have one or two posts, and then are never heard from again? This area on other forums that I've been on (not just sports teams) are usually full of welcome parties, making new members feel well... "welcomed" :mrgreen:. Reading a lot of the threads on this forum, it's easy to speculate on why they don't want to stick out their head and post again.

    People spend so much of their time and energy antagonizing each other here, that I just wanted to remind everyone, that in the end, we're ALL Seahawks fans. We're all on the same side, pulling for one team. From all around the world, we have this in common, and it is something special. Let's not forget that.

    TypeSly, from Canada.


    Part of it is high expectations, and part of it is the nature of social media today. But as an aside, you should also take a look at some of your own posts -- calling someone a d*ck because they poke a little fun at you is going to create some nasty blowback. Bottom line -- treat others the way you would like to be treated.
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:58 am
  • We all need to realize criticism can be a good thing when applied correctly. Considering other points of view provides opportunity for growth and improvement. Criticism is different than intentional negativity. The important thing is for everyone to have a positive end goal in common and work together to see it realized.
    The rules in place on this board are designed to encourage a positive experience, but it's really up to all of us to make sure it happens that way.
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:02 am
  • TypeSly wrote:I've never seen a fan forum, where members constantly attack each other for their opinions, or being a little less knowledgeable about the team. Even the silliest little things like mis-spellings, or mis-quotes, people are so quick to jump on a fellow member. Browsing other teams' boards, there just seems to be much more camaraderie, and more of an "us against the world" attitude, than we seem to have here. It may seem silly, but on an NFL team forum, isn't it us against the world (so to speak)?


    This is typical behavior on pretty much any NFL team message board, Reddit, or similar format. And it has been for as long as I can remember (20+ years). I don't know what you're comparing it to, but whatever you're talking about is not normal. The Patriots, 49ers, Cowboys, Ravens, Steelers, etc team sites are not a land of happiness and inclusion (maybe the Steelers right now since things are going so well).

    Generally when people talk about how a single fan base is some exceptional, it's the usual.
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:53 am
  • TypeSly wrote:I'm a relatively new member of this forum, but it's something that I've wanted to address for a little while now. I'm also a member of numerous other forums, from sports teams to different hobbies and such. Before I even begin my post, I'll probably get a few "If you don't like it, leave" replies, so let's just get that out of the way lol.

    Something that I've noticed, and a question I've been wanting to ask is: Why are Seahawks fans (especially on this forum) so divisive and hostile towards each other? I've never seen a fan forum, where members constantly attack each other for their opinions, or being a little less knowledgeable about the team. Even the silliest little things like mis-spellings, or mis-quotes, people are so quick to jump on a fellow member. Browsing other teams' boards, there just seems to be much more camaraderie, and more of an "us against the world" attitude, than we seem to have here. It may seem silly, but on an NFL team forum, isn't it us against the world (so to speak)?

    Even on the new members area, I've never seen a forum with so little welcoming. Has anyone noticed the amount of new members who have one or two posts, and then are never heard from again? This area on other forums that I've been on (not just sports teams) are usually full of welcome parties, making new members feel well... "welcomed" :mrgreen:. Reading a lot of the threads on this forum, it's easy to speculate on why they don't want to stick out their head and post again.

    People spend so much of their time and energy antagonizing each other here, that I just wanted to remind everyone, that in the end, we're ALL Seahawks fans. We're all on the same side, pulling for one team. From all around the world, we have this in common, and it is something special. Let's not forget that.

    TypeSly, from Canada.


    Welcome to the Net, where a differece of opinion is not welcomed.....
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:18 am
  • I think we're like a dysfunctional family, many of the regular members get annoyed with each other, so it comes off as hostile. But very rarely do I see it cross the line.

    Don't worry Type, once you slowly die inside as time goes on, you become numb to it.
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:20 am
  • The culture has absolutely shifted in recent years. This site used to have an unbelievable family vibe, and like any family, it wasn't always perfect but in the end the respect and friendship we felt for one another was obvious. There's natural attrition with any forum community over time and this site has lost, through either death or just moving on, some unbelievable posters, characters and wickedly smart football minds.

    However, there's still plenty of quality folks here that I enjoy reading their posts.

    I used to host .NET get togethers back when I still owned the site. So we weren't just characters typing on a keyboard, we were faces to the names, and it was always terrific fun to get to know the personalities in person, it always offered a whole new dynamic when reading their posts. For instance, someone who might have been a bit more cantankerous online, would make a lot of sense when you would meet them in person. Perhaps it was part of their "Schtick" and they were actually really cool in person, and so forth.

    Since I sold the site years ago there have been two owners. In that time, the community has changed. Not because of the ownership necessarily, it's just life. One of the finest members of this community, Les Norton returned Home a few months after our Super Bowl victory in 2014. Some call me The Godfather of .NET but Les was the Grandfather, the kind every grandkid adored. Losing him was a massive blow to the site.

    It's easy to be keyboard warriors but I've always believed in the importance of not changing who you are, either behind a keyboard or in person. Kindness is in short supply when it comes to something we are all so passionate about. Sometimes anger and being a jerk is really some other misplaced feelings being externalized. Without the indicators of body language, voice inflection, etc, it's easy to misconstrue the intent behind the words.

    Refreshing post TypeSly. It behooves us all to be reminded from time to time that it's okay to be kind.
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:09 am
  • TypeSly wrote:I'm a relatively new member of this forum, but it's something that I've wanted to address for a little while now. I'm also a member of numerous other forums, from sports teams to different hobbies and such. Before I even begin my post, I'll probably get a few "If you don't like it, leave" replies, so let's just get that out of the way lol.

    Something that I've noticed, and a question I've been wanting to ask is: Why are Seahawks fans (especially on this forum) so divisive and hostile towards each other? I've never seen a fan forum, where members constantly attack each other for their opinions, or being a little less knowledgeable about the team. Even the silliest little things like mis-spellings, or mis-quotes, people are so quick to jump on a fellow member. Browsing other teams' boards, there just seems to be much more camaraderie, and more of an "us against the world" attitude, than we seem to have here. It may seem silly, but on an NFL team forum, isn't it us against the world (so to speak)?

    Even on the new members area, I've never seen a forum with so little welcoming. Has anyone noticed the amount of new members who have one or two posts, and then are never heard from again? This area on other forums that I've been on (not just sports teams) are usually full of welcome parties, making new members feel well... "welcomed" :mrgreen:. Reading a lot of the threads on this forum, it's easy to speculate on why they don't want to stick out their head and post again.

    People spend so much of their time and energy antagonizing each other here, that I just wanted to remind everyone, that in the end, we're ALL Seahawks fans. We're all on the same side, pulling for one team. From all around the world, we have this in common, and it is something special. Let's not forget that.

    TypeSly, from Canada.



    I feel ya. This is my second account becuase my first account I HATED this place due to a few posters who gang up with each other on other people (the same exists for it appears other football forums too). It took me a while to realize once you seperate the 3-5 people who gang with each other and essentially just ignore them...it's much more pleasant to get your own opinion and view out there.

    Here's my 2 cents regarding forums in general. I myself openly am in my late 30s, i'm probably going to be one of the younger people who still use forums today. It seems like anyone under 25-45 is going to be using facebook groups, anyone under 30 is going to be using reddit and twitter. Which puts the age groups for forums (especially football ones) closer to 35-60+.

    OP I don't know how old you are, but anytime I'm talking to people in the 50+s, they kind of remind me of Grandmpa, they're going to be very outspoken on things of yours they don't agree with and utterly convinced you're a moron. I'll let you know if I feel the same way in another 10-15 years, but admittedly I am way more outspoken and assure in my ways as a late 30s person living more life than when I was in my early 20s and thought I knew the world. So it makes sense.

    Long story short, I try to keep that in mind when I'm on forums the age gaps and personas that come with it to make my experience more pleasant. Football forums definitely show the age groups of their members whenever a SB halftime show is announced and everyone starts screaming about wanting ACDC and 80s rock bands as the headliners as if the SB Half Time Show is catering to 12 year olds...like I said I'm in my late 30s and I barely remember those bands myself. So in reality the SB Half Time Show is actually catering to 15-35 year olds that Pepsi wants to buy their product and we're all just that much older these days.
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:26 am
  • This site is also based on "old school" social media, in the sense that many of us have arranged hangouts and watch parties in real life through this site. So some of these comments have been decades in the making.
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:30 am
  • Yeah I've always felt like an unwelcome outsider here.

    If someone criticizes my post, that's great and it leads toward some really good debates.

    When they attack me personally, then I just block them.

    This site does have some of the most knowledgeable posters I've ever been around. There are some highly intelligent people on this forum.
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:06 pm
  • Jerhawk wrote:
    This site does have some of the most knowledgeable posters I've ever been around. There are some highly intelligent people on this forum.


    This. I'm always amazed at the level of knowledge some of the posters around here have. I mostly lurk - but there are people on this board that know ALOT about football, and alot about Seahawks history. More than me, who's only been a fan since the Superbowl XL bandwagon year.

    It actually prevents me from posting more, as I don't think I know as much about the team and sport - and would end up looking dumb in alot of cases.
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:15 pm
  • TypeSly wrote:I'm a relatively new member of this forum, but it's something that I've wanted to address for a little while now. I'm also a member of numerous other forums, from sports teams to different hobbies and such. Before I even begin my post, I'll probably get a few "If you don't like it, leave" replies, so let's just get that out of the way lol.

    Something that I've noticed, and a question I've been wanting to ask is: Why are Seahawks fans (especially on this forum) so divisive and hostile towards each other? I've never seen a fan forum, where members constantly attack each other for their opinions, or being a little less knowledgeable about the team. Even the silliest little things like mis-spellings, or mis-quotes, people are so quick to jump on a fellow member. Browsing other teams' boards, there just seems to be much more camaraderie, and more of an "us against the world" attitude, than we seem to have here. It may seem silly, but on an NFL team forum, isn't it us against the world (so to speak)?

    Even on the new members area, I've never seen a forum with so little welcoming. Has anyone noticed the amount of new members who have one or two posts, and then are never heard from again? This area on other forums that I've been on (not just sports teams) are usually full of welcome parties, making new members feel well... "welcomed" :mrgreen:. Reading a lot of the threads on this forum, it's easy to speculate on why they don't want to stick out their head and post again.

    People spend so much of their time and energy antagonizing each other here, that I just wanted to remind everyone, that in the end, we're ALL Seahawks fans. We're all on the same side, pulling for one team. From all around the world, we have this in common, and it is something special. Let's not forget that.

    TypeSly, from Canada.

    LOLOL, Actually, it's like I told my grouchy old neighbor (2 doors down) "You can try and be a smart-a$$ with me all you want, I'm just going to turn it into a complement" :mrgreen:
    Like water off a ducks back.
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:20 pm
  • God, beer is so awesome
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:23 pm
  • ddores wrote:
    Jerhawk wrote:
    This site does have some of the most knowledgeable posters I've ever been around. There are some highly intelligent people on this forum.


    This. I'm always amazed at the level of knowledge some of the posters around here have. I mostly lurk - but there are people on this board that know ALOT about football, and alot about Seahawks history. More than me, who's only been a fan since the Superbowl XL bandwagon year.

    It actually prevents me from posting more, as I don't think I know as much about the team and sport - and would end up looking dumb in alot of cases.


    Right? I'm like the go to guy with my friends and family when it comes to the Seahawks and anything sports related in "real life."
    But when it comes to this site, it's a whole new ball game. You better be prepared to back up your thoughts with facts and stats or your argument will get destroyed on here lol.

    But honestly it's been a humbling experience posting on here. Realizing you're not the smartest Seahawks fan can be intimidating at first. But overtime this site has helped me get some thicker skin. This site has honestly prepared me for a lot of things I deal with in the workplace and finding a job, if that makes sense. Idk maybe it sounds silly but it's the truth. You got to bring it on .Net man.
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:29 pm
  • Seahawks twitter has been particularly toxic over the last few years and I think that's bled over everywhere else.

    However, the attitude you're describing fits most of the NFL fan bases. I frequent forums and subreddits of other teams and they come up with stuff like:
    - Patriots fans today who think Belichik can't draft anymore
    - Packers fans ('18) who were thrilled to see McCarthy go
    - Saints fans ('14-'16) who wanted to move on from Payton; or at least strip him of playcalling
    - Fans in general making fun of the Chiefs for drafting Mahomes
    - Fans caught up in politics more than sports
    - Every fan base hating their play callers
    - Every fan base hating their OL
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:03 pm
  • Many good thoughts in this forum. As someone in the 45+ cohort I find it's easiest to ignore the negative chatter. Life's to short.

    Been coming here a long time, and I enjoy NET discussion in general. Lot of good folks.

    Glad you spoke up Sly. Good to have you here.

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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:19 pm
  • Been here since the beginning always been an immoral hellhole 85% of the time but the 15% of cool stuff is worth it. The same can be said for the entire interwebs.

    Great post original poster but as a counterpoint have you ever visited a place called 49ers Webzone?
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:23 pm
  • As someone who follows the Hawks closely and has been on this board for quite awhile, I'm hesitant to post in the main forum... and that's mostly because there are so many well-informed posters who just are able to say things better than me. People who watch multiple replays, know the depth chart, know UDFAs, understand schemes and weaknesses.

    It's tough for people like me, who is far more informed than the average Hawks viewer, but significantly less informed than many of the posters here. So I hide in the background and enjoy the content.
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:25 pm
  • Hey Slick, Woodinville? Love it out there. I did a half marathon at Tolt Pipeline Trail last summer. Great trails in that area, and it started with that heart attack hill (I think they called it that)
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:56 pm
  • Oh and Sly? We're Americans. Listening and comprehension are not really our strong suit...
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:00 pm
  • When you are losing those fans bond more and have a comradery of suffering thru the hard times, we had a lot of that initially and then good and then Behring which is about the time Aros made .NET. Going thru the blood and guts of message board initiation from all aspects few have survived and many people migrated here. Site built up and the anything goes became more civilized arguments. Things like the Shack created etc. Good people that had bonded and became friends over the years of posting and some of the Meets began to enjoy the Holmgren Era. That Super Bowl year we had a huge influx of new fans.

    The close knit group infiltrated by new fans and yes not as well educated in history and team, some band wagon types etc. That is really the second major Generation of Fans that I think is also a age difference also in many cases based on what you read in their posts.

    Skip ahead a few more years to disfunction of Ruskell, The poison pill, Holmgren leaving and Mora, some conflict going on with the team and the Fans, lots of arguing then. Dirtbags be damned.

    Pete enters the picture, still arguing, Matt or no Matt, Clip Board Jesus, Rah Rah versus old school, Petes a Cheat, Flynn and Wilson, LOB and then a Super Bowl, a lot of Fans joining again and the Third wave has arrived, again many not as versed in Seahawks History and lore new fans, we now have first and second generation that have adapted to each other in conflict with the new Third Generation, Posting styles and whats considered [roper etiquette is different and conflicts arise.

    What has not changed is we all hold others accountable for sources of news and quotes. If you post something and your stating as a fact you better post a link or your ass gets torn up from the ground up, always has been that way here. That for new people can take some getting used to/

    Post a rumor or a inside source you better have something to back it up, you will never be forgotten here for misleading the forum.

    Now where is Carson Palmer he was supposed to be signed what 10 years ago now.

    Old asses will remember that one, Guaranteed inside source.
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:27 pm
  • I’ve been saying this for some time. On other forums there’s a lot of support for the team and especially a lot of support for the QB. As great as Russ is the love on here is conditional amongst at minimum 30% of the fan base. Those doubts never left from 2012
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:54 pm
  • SonicHawk wrote:As someone who follows the Hawks closely and has been on this board for quite awhile, I'm hesitant to post in the main forum... and that's mostly because there are so many well-informed posters who just are able to say things better than me. People who watch multiple replays, know the depth chart, know UDFAs, understand schemes and weaknesses.

    It's tough for people like me, who is far more informed than the average Hawks viewer, but significantly less informed than many of the posters here. So I hide in the background and enjoy the content.



    Yeah. This sums it up pretty well for me. This is what I do mostly, because what I think of to say is usually already said by someone else pretty much. It can be a very informative site even if you are not posting a ton or the OP very much. There are trends in the narrative that sometimes bug me a bit. It used to be "oh man, we are so ignored by the main sports media and every body hates us and never gives us props. Now I wish the Hawks got less attention. It's not that good of a thing. We get stuck in the d@@@ night games more than anybody. These nail biting games last past midnight. It's the worst. Anyway, please stick around. There are people coming on here from all over the globe and I. will guess different ages and ethnicities and backgrounds. It's pretty cool in that way.
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:20 pm
  • Never feel like you don't offer something to the community. I hear that some feel intimidated because others may have more X's and O's knowledge but I personally celebrate that. I am as passionate and dedicated of a 12 as anyone, but I am the first to admit my football IQ isn't all that high. I leave that for those who do have that intensive knowledge to set me straight if my opinions or emotions are being led astray due to my lack of understanding a scheme or particular play.

    I can fly you to your destination, just don't quiz me on the intricacies of aerodynamics, lol.
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:21 pm
  • ddores wrote:
    Jerhawk wrote:
    This site does have some of the most knowledgeable posters I've ever been around. There are some highly intelligent people on this forum.


    This. I'm always amazed at the level of knowledge some of the posters around here have. I mostly lurk - but there are people on this board that know ALOT about football, and alot about Seahawks history. More than me, who's only been a fan since the Superbowl XL bandwagon year.

    It actually prevents me from posting more, as I don't think I know as much about the team and sport - and would end up looking dumb in alot of cases.

    There are other forums besides just football where you
    don't have to worry about looking dumb and besides
    why worry?I don't know everything about football
    and I have been watching since I was 7-8 yrs old.
    I certainly have those who correct anything football
    that I get wrong,it's no big deal-nobody is perfect.
    Your opinion is just that (yours) so post away :2thumbs: :irishdrinkers:
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:22 pm
  • I love reading all the breakdowns people post, and the links that people post w/vids etc.
    Keeps me busy :irishdrinkers:
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:47 pm
  • scutterhawk wrote:
    TypeSly wrote:I'm a relatively new member of this forum, but it's something that I've wanted to address for a little while now. I'm also a member of numerous other forums, from sports teams to different hobbies and such. Before I even begin my post, I'll probably get a few "If you don't like it, leave" replies, so let's just get that out of the way lol.

    Something that I've noticed, and a question I've been wanting to ask is: Why are Seahawks fans (especially on this forum) so divisive and hostile towards each other? I've never seen a fan forum, where members constantly attack each other for their opinions, or being a little less knowledgeable about the team. Even the silliest little things like mis-spellings, or mis-quotes, people are so quick to jump on a fellow member. Browsing other teams' boards, there just seems to be much more camaraderie, and more of an "us against the world" attitude, than we seem to have here. It may seem silly, but on an NFL team forum, isn't it us against the world (so to speak)?

    Even on the new members area, I've never seen a forum with so little welcoming. Has anyone noticed the amount of new members who have one or two posts, and then are never heard from again? This area on other forums that I've been on (not just sports teams) are usually full of welcome parties, making new members feel well... "welcomed" :mrgreen:. Reading a lot of the threads on this forum, it's easy to speculate on why they don't want to stick out their head and post again.

    People spend so much of their time and energy antagonizing each other here, that I just wanted to remind everyone, that in the end, we're ALL Seahawks fans. We're all on the same side, pulling for one team. From all around the world, we have this in common, and it is something special. Let's not forget that.

    TypeSly, from Canada.

    LOLOL, Actually, it's like I told my grouchy old neighbor (2 doors down) "You can try and be a smart-a$$ with me all you want, I'm just going to turn it into a complement" :mrgreen:
    Like water off a ducks back.
    AND I only come here for the free beer. :irishdrinkers:

    Wait what? Free beer? Where?
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:00 pm
  • chris98251 wrote:When you are losing those fans bond more and have a comradery of suffering thru the hard times, we had a lot of that initially and then good and then Behring which is about the time Aros made .NET. Going thru the blood and guts of message board initiation from all aspects few have survived and many people migrated here. Site built up and the anything goes became more civilized arguments. Things like the Shack created etc. Good people that had bonded and became friends over the years of posting and some of the Meets began to enjoy the Holmgren Era. That Super Bowl year we had a huge influx of new fans.

    The close knit group infiltrated by new fans and yes not as well educated in history and team, some band wagon types etc. That is really the second major Generation of Fans that I think is also a age difference also in many cases based on what you read in their posts.

    Skip ahead a few more years to disfunction of Ruskell, The poison pill, Holmgren leaving and Mora, some conflict going on with the team and the Fans, lots of arguing then. Dirtbags be damned.

    Pete enters the picture, still arguing, Matt or no Matt, Clip Board Jesus, Rah Rah versus old school, Petes a Cheat, Flynn and Wilson, LOB and then a Super Bowl, a lot of Fans joining again and the Third wave has arrived, again many not as versed in Seahawks History and lore new fans, we now have first and second generation that have adapted to each other in conflict with the new Third Generation, Posting styles and whats considered [roper etiquette is different and conflicts arise.

    What has not changed is we all hold others accountable for sources of news and quotes. If you post something and your stating as a fact you better post a link or your ass gets torn up from the ground up, always has been that way here. That for new people can take some getting used to/

    Post a rumor or a inside source you better have something to back it up, you will never be forgotten here for misleading the forum.

    Now where is Carson Palmer he was supposed to be signed what 10 years ago now.

    Old asses will remember that one, Guaranteed inside source.


    Good post TypeSly.

    Great breakdown Chris.

    As the 3rd owner of .Net and being a member since 1999 I can say .NET has always been a place were some of the brightest Seahawks minds congregate. I wouldn't say we are an unwelcoming bunch but there is some sense of standards and expectation that you back up you talk. This is not Twitter and I'd say we typically wash out trolls quickly.

    I would like to find a way to better celebrate some of our more knowledgeable and well respected posters.
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:21 pm
  • TypeSly wrote:I'm a relatively new member of this forum, but it's something that I've wanted to address for a little while now. I'm also a member of numerous other forums, from sports teams to different hobbies and such. Before I even begin my post, I'll probably get a few "If you don't like it, leave" replies, so let's just get that out of the way lol.

    Something that I've noticed, and a question I've been wanting to ask is: Why are Seahawks fans (especially on this forum) so divisive and hostile towards each other? I've never seen a fan forum, where members constantly attack each other for their opinions, or being a little less knowledgeable about the team. Even the silliest little things like mis-spellings, or mis-quotes, people are so quick to jump on a fellow member. Browsing other teams' boards, there just seems to be much more camaraderie, and more of an "us against the world" attitude, than we seem to have here. It may seem silly, but on an NFL team forum, isn't it us against the world (so to speak)?

    Even on the new members area, I've never seen a forum with so little welcoming. Has anyone noticed the amount of new members who have one or two posts, and then are never heard from again? This area on other forums that I've been on (not just sports teams) are usually full of welcome parties, making new members feel well... "welcomed" :mrgreen:. Reading a lot of the threads on this forum, it's easy to speculate on why they don't want to stick out their head and post again.

    People spend so much of their time and energy antagonizing each other here, that I just wanted to remind everyone, that in the end, we're ALL Seahawks fans. We're all on the same side, pulling for one team. From all around the world, we have this in common, and it is something special. Let's not forget that.

    TypeSly, from Canada.
    I joined in 2010. Not going to lie, it was much friendlier then.
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:48 pm
  • Been here for some time. There were more friends in the older days, but it wasn't always more friendly.

    There was, as Aros intimidated, a commonality that permeated the boards though. Many people knew each other on a personal level. There were meet ups. The board was an extension of game day experiences.

    The boards reflected that. People could argue, but there was always that measure of respect as you just may see each other at the game, Temple, or elsewhere.

    Those days are gone, unfortunately. Not the fault of anyone now. But its easier to be less civil when you don't know who you're actually talking to.
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:18 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:Been here for some time. There were more friends in the older days, but it wasn't always more friendly.

    There was, as Aros intimidated, a commonality that permeated the boards though. Many people knew each other on a personal level. There were meet ups. The board was an extension of game day experiences.

    The boards reflected that. People could argue, but there was always that measure of respect as you just may see each other at the game, Temple, or elsewhere.

    Those days are gone, unfortunately. Not the fault of anyone now. But its easier to be less civil when you don't know who you're actually talking to.


    Precisely. As an example, I used to think pehawk was a complete tool online, but then I met him, and got to learn who he was as a person and then it all clicked for me. Not that I agreed with him, but I got him. That is quite a powerful difference, to understand the person behind the words on a screen. This would apply to most people, btw.

    Someone earlier mentioned the generational angle and there is absolute truth to that. Each generation has their niche, their place, their feelings about themselves and the world around them. That will never change. The intermingling of said generations in a forum is a psychological sand box worthy of study.

    FWIW, I do believe this community lacks - in general - a certain level of kindness towards one another. Certainly there are many members here that get it and do not apply here, but there are also many members who do apply. Decent attitude and respect are vital elements to any healthy community and sometimes I don't see either.

    If I had a dollar for every time I said or thought, "Man, I bet if I got together with this douchebag over a couple drinks we would have a great time and see eye-to-eye" I could buy a sweet RC jet.

    Truth is, with the exception of a few unsavory characters, it's almost always true. The anonymity that a keyboard and monitor affords is almost too intoxicating for some not to act like complete jerks (see: trolls).

    The good news is that .NET is still here. Through all the ebbs and flows, the successes, the failures, the ups the downs, it's still here. And above all else, there are still plenty of quality posters here. I still come here because of that fact. For every dbag I disregard, there's a lot here I enjoy reading their thoughts.

    As was intimated earlier, at the end of it all, we are all fans of the same team. We all belong to the same tribe.
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:39 pm
  • Aros wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:Been here for some time. There were more friends in the older days, but it wasn't always more friendly.

    There was, as Aros intimidated, a commonality that permeated the boards though. Many people knew each other on a personal level. There were meet ups. The board was an extension of game day experiences.

    The boards reflected that. People could argue, but there was always that measure of respect as you just may see each other at the game, Temple, or elsewhere.

    Those days are gone, unfortunately. Not the fault of anyone now. But its easier to be less civil when you don't know who you're actually talking to.


    Precisely. As an example, I used to think pehawk was a complete tool online, but then I met him, and got to learn who he was as a person and then it all clicked for me. Not that I agreed with him, but I got him. That is quite a powerful difference, to understand the person behind the words on a screen. This would apply to most people, btw.

    Someone earlier mentioned the generational angle and there is absolute truth to that. Each generation has their niche, their place, their feelings about themselves and the world around them. That will never change. The intermingling of said generations in a forum is a psychological sand box worthy of study.

    FWIW, I do believe this community lacks - in general - a certain level of kindness towards one another. Certainly there are many members here that get it and do not apply here, but there are also many members who do apply. Decent attitude and respect are vital elements to any healthy community and sometimes I don't see either.

    If I had a dollar for every time I said or thought, "Man, I bet if I got together with this douchebag over a couple drinks we would have a great time and see eye-to-eye" I could buy a sweet RC jet.

    Truth is, with the exception of a few unsavory characters, it's almost always true. The anonymity that a keyboard and monitor affords is almost too intoxicating for some not to act like complete jerks (see: trolls).

    The good news is that .NET is still here. Through all the ebbs and flows, the successes, the failures, the ups the downs, it's still here. And above all else, there are still plenty of quality posters here. I still come here because of that fact. For every dbag I disregard, there's a lot here I enjoy reading their thoughts.

    As was intimated earlier, at the end of it all, we are all fans of the same team. We all belong to the same tribe.


    Well going all the way back You were the Captain but I think Les was the Helmsman and controlled the mentality Rudder a lot. He could be fiery when needed but always and always started off trying to understand and guide and humor you.

    You don't and can't replace that, he had that touch.

    While I never was able to attend things I had many conversations with many off forum in PM's etc.

    Les invited Members to his Home to celebrate Training camp and each other.

    Again Aros was Lucky to have him find us I guess is the best way to say it.

    And we ( as in those that had the chance to interact with him) Lucky to have had that opportunity.
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:09 pm
  • Tusc2000 wrote:
    TypeSly wrote:I'm a relatively new member of this forum, but it's something that I've wanted to address for a little while now. I'm also a member of numerous other forums, from sports teams to different hobbies and such. Before I even begin my post, I'll probably get a few "If you don't like it, leave" replies, so let's just get that out of the way lol.

    Something that I've noticed, and a question I've been wanting to ask is: Why are Seahawks fans (especially on this forum) so divisive and hostile towards each other? I've never seen a fan forum, where members constantly attack each other for their opinions, or being a little less knowledgeable about the team. Even the silliest little things like mis-spellings, or mis-quotes, people are so quick to jump on a fellow member. Browsing other teams' boards, there just seems to be much more camaraderie, and more of an "us against the world" attitude, than we seem to have here. It may seem silly, but on an NFL team forum, isn't it us against the world (so to speak)?

    Even on the new members area, I've never seen a forum with so little welcoming. Has anyone noticed the amount of new members who have one or two posts, and then are never heard from again? This area on other forums that I've been on (not just sports teams) are usually full of welcome parties, making new members feel well... "welcomed" :mrgreen:. Reading a lot of the threads on this forum, it's easy to speculate on why they don't want to stick out their head and post again.

    People spend so much of their time and energy antagonizing each other here, that I just wanted to remind everyone, that in the end, we're ALL Seahawks fans. We're all on the same side, pulling for one team. From all around the world, we have this in common, and it is something special. Let's not forget that.

    TypeSly, from Canada.


    Part of it is high expectations, and part of it is the nature of social media today. But as an aside, you should also take a look at some of your own posts -- calling someone a d*ck because they poke a little fun at you is going to create some nasty blowback. Bottom line -- treat others the way you would like to be treated.


    Yes, you're right. I probably should have mentioned that I'm guilty of this myself at times. It's usually due to being defensive, after being the target of personal attack myself. Having said that, not only will I try to be better, I will stop it all together.

    I don't want my OP to be misconstrued into that I think we should criticize the team less, or be more positive. Not at all. Positive or negative, crticizing and / or praising of the team, and expressing one's personal opinions is exactly what forums are for, and exactly why I come to these forums. I can't stand fake optimism. I just think (imho) that we should be more positive and appreciate each other more. I LOVE the Seahawks, so when I see camaraderie on other forums, I just got to thnking "Why can't our board be like that?" It kind of sucks that after you post anything on .NET, you feel like you have to be ready to be on the defensive.

    I know that outside the forums, Seahawk fans keep an eye out for other and go out of their way to be friendly, or show their appreciation for each other. I know when I wear my Seahawks gear out, especially on vacation, I can tell countless stories about other fans going out of their way to strike up conversations for no other reason, than to let you know they're part of the same club.

    Anyways, thanks to everyone for listening to my rant, and not shaming me off the forum. :179417:
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:30 am
  • SoulfishHawk wrote:Great points, Type. Unfortunately, you'll have to get used to it, Seahawks dot negative indeed. It's ridiculous. Even when they win, many act like they are actually angry. They would rather be RIGHT about a loss, as if that's somehow a good thing. And then there's the blatant refusal to eat crow and/or give credit when they win.
    Oh well, overall it's a great place to talk sports, other than getting blasted or threatened on a message board.


    Here's the thing about this board, there are posters here who I'm 100% totally convinced cheer against the team so they can say they're right about something.

    We had a poster post back in January in the "Fire Pete Carroll" thread, you know the thread complaining about how we'll never win a game in the playoffs after winning a game in the playoffs, openly admit that he didn't even care if the move of firing PC worked out. He was just ready & wanted to see if he was right. Seriously, this really happened & I wasn't just reading between the lines, that's what he actually wrote.
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:06 am
  • I used to engage with people on this forum when they would disagree especially when they did it in a toxic way . . Now i just state my opinion and move on . Don't get sucked into an argument it's not worth it
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:54 pm
  • I'm quite sure that I am one of the more disliked people on this board. I get frustrated because I want to enjoy a 5-0 start without reading why this team sucks...

    It's the job of the fans to critique this team on a fan message board...

    I apologize for making statements like "about half you guys don't know what you are talking about" although I believe this to be true in some cases, it was not my intention to prevent people from making posts...

    I do not think that I know everything... in fact I'm quite sure there are many who would say I dont know what I am talking about and Im ok with that.... I think i just have a vastly different perspective than most... I will make an effort to be more considerate as hard as that is sometimes...


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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:06 pm
  • Northwest Seahawk wrote:I used to engage with people on this forum when they would disagree especially when they did it in a toxic way . . Now i just state my opinion and move on . Don't get sucked into an argument it's not worth it



    You take the fun out of everything party pooper..... :)
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:07 pm
  • LTH wrote:I'm quite sure that I am one of the more disliked people on this board. I get frustrated because I want to enjoy a 5-0 start without reading why this team sucks...

    It's the job of the fans to critique this team on a fan message board...

    I apologize for making statements like "about half you guys don't know what you are talking about" although I believe this to be true in some cases, it was not my intention to prevent people from making posts...

    I do not think that I know everything... in fact I'm quite sure there are many who would say I dont know what I am talking about and Im ok with that.... I think i just have a vastly different perspective than most... I will make an effort to be more considerate as hard as that is sometimes...


    LTH


    Really we need Wen to add a like/dislike button as well as on each members profile how many enemies you have and how many people have you on ignore.

    I just wish I wasn't do reserved and shy or I would post more.
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:11 pm
  • Sports Hernia wrote:
    scutterhawk wrote:
    TypeSly wrote:I'm a relatively new member of this forum, but it's something that I've wanted to address for a little while now. I'm also a member of numerous other forums, from sports teams to different hobbies and such. Before I even begin my post, I'll probably get a few "If you don't like it, leave" replies, so let's just get that out of the way lol.

    Something that I've noticed, and a question I've been wanting to ask is: Why are Seahawks fans (especially on this forum) so divisive and hostile towards each other? I've never seen a fan forum, where members constantly attack each other for their opinions, or being a little less knowledgeable about the team. Even the silliest little things like mis-spellings, or mis-quotes, people are so quick to jump on a fellow member. Browsing other teams' boards, there just seems to be much more camaraderie, and more of an "us against the world" attitude, than we seem to have here. It may seem silly, but on an NFL team forum, isn't it us against the world (so to speak)?

    Even on the new members area, I've never seen a forum with so little welcoming. Has anyone noticed the amount of new members who have one or two posts, and then are never heard from again? This area on other forums that I've been on (not just sports teams) are usually full of welcome parties, making new members feel well... "welcomed" :mrgreen:. Reading a lot of the threads on this forum, it's easy to speculate on why they don't want to stick out their head and post again.

    People spend so much of their time and energy antagonizing each other here, that I just wanted to remind everyone, that in the end, we're ALL Seahawks fans. We're all on the same side, pulling for one team. From all around the world, we have this in common, and it is something special. Let's not forget that.

    TypeSly, from Canada.

    LOLOL, Actually, it's like I told my grouchy old neighbor (2 doors down) "You can try and be a smart-a$$ with me all you want, I'm just going to turn it into a complement" :mrgreen:
    Like water off a ducks back.
    AND I only come here for the free beer. :irishdrinkers:

    Wait what? Free beer? Where?

    OOPS, Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. :th104:
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:02 pm
  • LTH wrote:I'm quite sure that I am one of the more disliked people on this board. I get frustrated because I want to enjoy a 5-0 start without reading why this team sucks...

    It's the job of the fans to critique this team on a fan message board...

    I apologize for making statements like "about half you guys don't know what you are talking about" although I believe this to be true in some cases, it was not my intention to prevent people from making posts...

    I do not think that I know everything... in fact I'm quite sure there are many who would say I dont know what I am talking about and Im ok with that.... I think i just have a vastly different perspective than most... I will make an effort to be more considerate as hard as that is sometimes...


    LTH


    I find you to be one of the best posters on this forum. I usually agree with what you say.

    Can we all just have a group hug and remember to be respectful of each other and say "Go Hawks"?
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:17 pm
  • I like to think that more often than not, many of us are just intense about the team and/or messing with each other.
    It's not personal, it never has been imo. Anyway, hopefully everyone has a great turkey day and we are celebrating a big win next week. On a side note, LTH is a solid poster w/out a doubt.
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:33 pm
  • Message boards like this also breed a different kind of poster.

    The forum encourages people to be more long-winded and that allow for more creative thought and expression. This also opens it up for more people to dissect what is posted and examine things line by line.

    When compared to more current Social Media formats which are much more image/video intensive, it does not require you to add much thought or respond. There's no "like" functionality so if you want to tell someone you enjoyed their post or if you want to critique, you have to write a response. There's no easy quick reply feature with a bunch of canned responses either; this type of medium requires more thought to respond and therefore it will cater to those on the farther ends of the spectrum of Seahawks fandom when compared to Instagram, Twitter, FB, etc.

    With that being said, the end goal is that every fan wants the Seahawks to win but strongly disagree with how they do win. Pete Carroll is highly divisive because he's been our coach for so long but some fans are not satisfied that we have someone like Russell and yet we haven't made it to an NFC Championship game since the 2014 season. That weighs on people based upon their expectations (reasonable or not).
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:36 pm
  • Well said. Every one of us probably has things that drive us crazy on a message board.
    It's no secret, I can't stand all the negativity. But, I'm working on it...…….
    That's really all you can do. There's SO many more important things than arguing on a message board.
    It's 2020, we are in the middle of a massive pandemic, sometimes it's good to step back and appreciate what we have. Not what we DON'T have.
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:59 pm
  • Outsider opinion:

    I've been a member here since the Fisher days - I think I found the site around 2013. I lurk more than post - I like the site because there's a ton of traffic - there has been a Rams fan that used to post a lot, several Niners fans, and a Cards fan that posted a ton when Arians and Palmer had them going.

    There's a lot of Seahawks fans with differing opinions. There are some that have been overtly hostile to me, which used to bother me, until I realized that some people are just like that. There are Rams fans on my home message board that would be hostile toward Seahawks fans, so while I really don't like those posters, I can't hold it against the site.

    You have a very diverse group of fans here - you have long term Seahawks fans, and you have newer fans as well, which happens everytime a team wins the Super Bowl and has a dynamic QB.

    The main reason I come here is because I DESPISE group think on message boards - I think they were created for discussion of all sorts and I despise site-wide player loyalty. Individuals that have a player bias are awesome because it often is super entertaining. You always know that poster who, when driving home from work (or walking downstairs, these days), is making up excuses for Goff or reasons why Wilson shouldn't get that huge contract - but it becomes a problem to me when, as an example, 90% of the site defends Wilson no matter what happens in the game.

    So in case anyone was wondering why I personally spend time here, that's why. Of all the NFL message boards I've been to, this one does the best with group think.
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:13 pm
  • But is it that hostile?

    Conflicting viewpoints do just that, conflict. But not in a personal way. Even though it might seem like it.

    Perfect example, there was a guy (I think named Siouxhawk) that I used to go round and round with. We were firmly opposed to the stance of the other and it showed. He was a big give Bevell a chance guy and I considered Bevell to be an issue the team had to resolve.

    But I privately messaged him when it seemed that a post could have been taken personally. He completely understood and we discussed our own personal experiences with the team. He had a very different viewpoint that I disagreed vehemently with. But I respected he was a fan of the team and the players. We would occasionally talk football and how it impacted us personally from then on out.

    I think when we got rid of Bevell he vanished, maybe he was embarrassed to come back because of all the piling on. Hope not.

    Another person I disagree with often, if not regularly is Soulfish. But Soulfish is one of my favorite posters. He has a very optimistic outlook on this team that is often needed. And even then you can tell he wears his heart on his sleeve with this team.

    You have to look at the motivations for people, not just the conflict.

    Still, I don't think I have ever literally witnessed someone just hating on a poster, even when they disagreed with them, for some time. The last was some people piling on SiouxHawk back when the Bevell fire was raging, but since then ?
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:06 pm
  • TwistedHusky wrote:But is it that hostile?

    Conflicting viewpoints do just that, conflict. But not in a personal way. Even though it might seem like it.

    Perfect example, there was a guy (I think named Siouxhawk) that I used to go round and round with. We were firmly opposed to the stance of the other and it showed. He was a big give Bevell a chance guy and I considered Bevell to be an issue the team had to resolve.

    But I privately messaged him when it seemed that a post could have been taken personally. He completely understood and we discussed our own personal experiences with the team. He had a very different viewpoint that I disagreed vehemently with. But I respected he was a fan of the team and the players. We would occasionally talk football and how it impacted us personally from then on out.

    I think when we got rid of Bevell he vanished, maybe he was embarrassed to come back because of all the piling on. Hope not.

    Another person I disagree with often, if not regularly is Soulfish. But Soulfish is one of my favorite posters. He has a very optimistic outlook on this team that is often needed. And even then you can tell he wears his heart on his sleeve with this team.

    You have to look at the motivations for people, not just the conflict.

    Still, I don't think I have ever literally witnessed someone just hating on a poster, even when they disagreed with them, for some time. The last was some people piling on SiouxHawk back when the Bevell fire was raging, but since then ?



    We had to stop piling on though, when Pehawk unzipped his pants doing it in the Shack it changed the whole dynamic.


    Sorry I get tomorrow off and am feeling a bit of the Gremlin coming out.
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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:20 am
  • As someone who was away from the site for some time, I can definitely say the feel of it has changed over time. But that's not a bad thing. Time changes us all.

    As to the negativity - I'll just say this - Don't let a few people's rudeness tell you what .NET is all about. I get it, emotions run high during (and after) a game. So when I see posts like that, I usually just scroll on by. Replying just gives it more air time.

    But if you do reply, always remember: Attack the post, not the poster! An old friend taught me that! :les:

    In closing, Happy Thanksgiving and Go Hawks!

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Re: Seahawks Fans: Why The Hostility?
Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:58 pm
  • It doesn't surprise me that the loudest fans in the NFL are also very emotionally attached to their team. Personally, I wouldn't have it any other way.
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