TE's being useless was a major factor for poor offense too

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I know everyone is discussing Schotty's replacement and Pete pointing to fixing the run game (again) but been thinking about how poor the offense was and a dominant TE over the middle would have been so important to beating those 2 deep safety looks. A guy like Kelce (obviously hard to come by) who can eat you alive if you leave him in single coverage across the middle doesn't let both safeties sit back all game. Teams HAVE to account for him on the short drags, outs, slants, etc and cannot simply let a LB stay in single coverage. Safeties are forced to drop down and help or else he's eating up 8-12 yards a play.

They had what, 5 TE's on the roster in the playoffs? I think 6 at one point midseason. They got almost nothing out of any of them with some pretty significant $$$ invested. Running the ball to force one of the safties up will certainly help but getting a guy who can dominate the middle of the field consistently when the team gets in a rut is hugely important. Russ really didn't have a safety valve this year and they didn't have a plan to go get 5 yards consistently when needed. Maybe Dissly can become that guy but whether scheme or playcall or just not being open, TE's were terribly underused.

I know Zach Ertz is getting up there in age but it sounds like he's probably a cap casualty in Philly.
 

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You could take gronkowski, blow him up to the size of a dinosaur, and our coaches still wouldn’t know how to use him
 

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They should just find a TE to do what Kittle does.
 

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hoxrox":15qqo3xm said:
They should just find a TE to do what Kittle does.

Simple.

While we're at it, let's just fill every position with someone who is the best in the league.

Championship.
 

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Seanhawk":2p79zpib said:
hoxrox":2p79zpib said:
They should just find a TE to do what Kittle does.

Simple.

While we're at it, let's just fill every position with someone who is the best in the league.

Championship.

Lol the point is our TEs were not well utilized. Kittle does everything in that offense, and they should study what he does.

Pete did mention that Parkinson could become a very good pass catching TE... will see.
 

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Too many on the payroll to start with !
 

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Maybe get Jimmy Graham back to block for us again.
 

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rcaido":1d7kef0r said:
Maybe get Jimmy Graham back to block for us again.

Think Russ was missing more of a Zach Miller type than a JG type. A reliable pass catcher on 3rd downs. That should have been Olsen, but wasn't.
 

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hoxrox":1vlbsddg said:
Seanhawk":1vlbsddg said:
hoxrox":1vlbsddg said:
They should just find a TE to do what Kittle does.

Simple.

While we're at it, let's just fill every position with someone who is the best in the league.

Championship.

Lol the point is our TEs were not well utilized. Kittle does everything in that offense, and they should study what he does.

Pete did mention that Parkinson could become a very good pass catching TE... will see.

If indeed Pete has not already studied Kittle at length and developed a firm grasp of how he is used we have a bigger problem than I have imagined.
 

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We used graham perfect the last yr he was here. He set records for us as a TE.
 

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Cry me a river. How many times can that BS excuse be used. Jimmy Graham was criticized because he couldn't block list goes on and on with TE's.
 

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Shanegotyou11":2yvgpjz8 said:
We used graham perfect the last yr he was here. He set records for us as a TE.

Before that rest of his time here Jimmy Graham wasn't used correctly and everyone made him a whipping boy because he couldn't block.
 

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Remember when we all thought Dissly was going to be good if he could just stay healthy? In 2020 he stayed healthy...
 

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hoxrox":23hfpbdc said:
Seanhawk":23hfpbdc said:
hoxrox":23hfpbdc said:
They should just find a TE to do what Kittle does.

Simple.

While we're at it, let's just fill every position with someone who is the best in the league.

Championship.

Lol the point is our TEs were not well utilized. Kittle does everything in that offense, and they should study what he does.

Pete did mention that Parkinson could become a very good pass catching TE... will see.
What the heck happened with Parkinson anyway? It didn’t seem they gave him much of a chance at all to play. I know he was hurt for a lot of the year, but after coming back I felt he was basically never on the field.
 

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Seriously, this seaon's group of tight ends seemed to be pretty good at blocking, getting open, and catching passes. But for some reason this skill set didn't seem to be sufficiently recognized by the offensive coodinator and/or the quarterback. Hopefully this will be addressed going forward.
 

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Figures, the season in which Will Dissly was available, he & the rest of the TE's are barely used.

TE's seems to be a dying breed, like RB's, sucks because those are my 2 favorite positions on offense, I love the physicality a great TE/RB can bring.

Hopefully, a new OC will put more focus on TE's.
 

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Shanegotyou11":toq4pahq said:
We used graham perfect the last yr he was here. He set records for us as a TE.

That was a very low bar
 

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Deep ball does not equate to TE passes, or RB's in the flat, or slot receivers in underneath routes.
 

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hoxrox":xuvnhk2a said:
Seanhawk":xuvnhk2a said:
hoxrox":xuvnhk2a said:
They should just find a TE to do what Kittle does.

Simple.

While we're at it, let's just fill every position with someone who is the best in the league.

Championship.

Lol the point is our TEs were not well utilized. Kittle does everything in that offense, and they should study what he does.

Pete did mention that Parkinson could become a very good pass catching TE... will see.

Again, studying what Kittle does is one thing. Finding a potentially generational talent to do it is another.
 
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