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  • Jason La Canfora wrote:from what I am hearing, some enterprising executives are already sniffing around on Wilson and trying to move the meter

    That's pretty tame as "from what I am hearing" goes, which suggests to me that Canfora mostly just needed an excuse to write an article. I'm sure there are NFL GMs who inquire about all of our players from time to time, but I don't think Russ is realistically tradeable right now. It would cost us nearly $40 million to trade him and we would need a huge amount back from the opposing team to make it worthwhile.

    Despite what some think we are currently a good team, and it's difficult to see why Russ would want to play on any of the teams mentioned after you factor in the trade compensation those teams would need to part with. He'd OK a trade to the Jets AFTER they gave us all of their high picks for the next three years? I doubt it.
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  • If Seattle believes RW has hit a brick wall they should think about it but 1 of the rookie QB’s in the draft has to be the next Super Star or Fans will crucify Carroll. I’m Luke warm on Trevor Lawrence because he doesn’t have a cannon for an arm and those incredible runs he made on the path to the National Championship has led to shoulder surgery this year. Also I’m not thrilled he got COVID-19.
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  • I guess you can "listen" to anything.
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  • RW now has the Interception Monkey on his back! Since the screw up in the Super Bowl and the 2020 Cardinals, Giants, 2 Rams games he’s seeing Ghosts. Pete & Russ are joined at the hip & must get back on track or this will follow them forever. It looks like they both get it & have decided to go to war together.
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  • Every couple years this is common practice. Nothing to see here. Move along folks.

    Unless a team offers their first round picks for the next 5 years, then no.
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  • FresnoHawk68 wrote:RW now has the Interception Monkey on his back! Since the screw up in the Super Bowl and the 2020 Cardinals, Giants, 2 Rams games he’s seeing Ghosts. Pete & Russ are joined at the hip & must get back on track or this will follow them forever. It looks like they both get it & have decided to go to war together.



    Ahh I dont think you can count the Sb given it was 7 years ago. Also, truth be told other than a few clueless fans and a few talkers who need something to talk about it is a moot issue

    Now lets look at your other premise




    Cardinals game 3 TOs, okay 2 off receivers hands but okay

    Giants game 1 int ahh what ar eyou tlakign about

    2 Rams games? well we played 3 times, and he has 3 ints combined So again not sure what you rare talking bout.

    So your whole seeing ghosts think makes no sense and at best in conjecture.

    As to following them again okay your opinon when I think of them that is nto what I think, nor do most people.
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  • Sooo... we trade a 3rd round pick for a super bowl win.. 2 SB appearances and Starting QB and 5 1st rd picks.. .. not a bad haul.
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  • The gullible is strong in Hawks fans...….
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  • SoulfishHawk wrote:The gullible is strong in Hawks fans...….

    I don't think a trade will happen, but I think there are some strong signs indicating that Wilson is unhappy with the current arrangement on the Seahawks. I doubt he's calling for a trade, but if things don't change soon I can see him wanting out of Seattle sooner than later.
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  • Absolutely, and it would be justified for him to be frustrated. Shoot, Pete neutered him mid-season. Just my own opinion that people believe what they read way too much. Anything is possible, but I can't even muster up 5 percent concern about him being traded. Do I believe he's very frustrated w/how things have been? Absolutely.
    But him being traded? Don't believe it for a second. Just my own opinion.
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  • Wilson has 3 years left on his contract with a no-trade clause attached . If Wilson doesn't see a real path to another SB appearance in the next year or two at most he will waive his no-trade clause and move on from the Hawks one way or another . IMO
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  • xray wrote:Wilson has 3 years left on his contract with a no-trade clause attached . If Wilson doesn't see a real path to another SB appearance in the next year or two at most he will waive his no-trade clause and move on from the Hawks one way or another . IMO

    Agreed.
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  • Well Russ seems to think teams have been calling:

    https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/2110347/wilson-thinks-seahawks-received-trade-calls-for-him

    I personally think that one of two things needs to happen: Either Seattle Trades him or Pete Carroll gets fired. Their current formula isn't working. Wilson would be much better utilized on another team that can take advantage and make the most out of his skillset. Pete Carroll wants "PeteBall" and a stud defense which I don't think is possible with Wilson and how much the organization is paying him. A decent enough game managing QB will accomplish that. I'm a diehard Wilson fan and I think he is just wasting his prime for a coach who refuses to adapt and a team that's going to be tight with the cap.

    I hope he does get traded because we know the Senile coach isn't going anywhere. He deserves better than to be tied down by Pete Carroll.

    And don't think for one second this is just pure speculation or rumor. The Seahawks leaked this information about receiving calls because as we know Schneider always explores every opportunity and they're driving up and gauging the interest on Wilson.
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  • Well, it's on the internet so it must be true. Thx for the entertainment on a Tuesday morning though.
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  • SoulfishHawk wrote:Well, it's on the internet so it must be true. Thx for the entertainment on a Tuesday morning though.



    You mean the FACT that Russ acknowledged and addressed the trade talk on "The Dan Patrick Show". Did you even read the article or listen to the show? Thanks for your useless 2 cents this Tuesday morning.
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  • xray wrote:Wilson has 3 years left on his contract with a no-trade clause attached . If Wilson doesn't see a real path to another SB appearance in the next year or two at most he will waive his no-trade clause and move on from the Hawks one way or another . IMO


    Agreed -

    I think he rides out the new offensive co-ordinator for a year, sees if anything changes/improves -

    If nothing's better and he gets neutered again next season - I think Russ will 'cook' his way outta here. The "Let Russ Cook" movement was him expressing frustration - the narrative hasn't change from him in a year - and he still talks in this link about wanting to have input/control. There's more going on under the scenes than I think is coming out. Much like Lynch wearing Cam's jersey during the holdout. At some point he's gotta get tired of the Oline issues and being a punching bag.

    I give him 1 more season before things get messy - and that's the timing when his dead cap space would be gone from the hawks side too IIRC.
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  • There is definitely smoke, maybe not a fire yet.

    Wilson wants to win, he wants to survive, I think he has begun to feel what all feel when they get towards their mid 30's, mortality.

    He is probably looking at years left and the fact he isn't getting younger and faster. He needs a team around him to take the next step, one and done in the playoffs has become the norm.

    When asked about a trade and him not saying I am a Seahawk instead of saying thats upm to the Seahawks tells something.
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  • Florio and Russ's agent are pals. Florio sources for LaCanfora.

    We know that Russ has used that avenue before to leak info during negotiations then again last year. This is an ongoing story. I think it'd be wishful thinking to assume there is nothing to it.
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  • There is no circumstance where trading Wilson makes sense but one:

    If you can trade Wilson for Watson.

    (No chance)



    So in any scenario you never trade Wilson because you have an aging HC. He has a few years left coaching at best, if there is not some nighttime surprise. You don't pin your future on a 98 year old. You just don't. Especially when trading your QB puts you in rebuild mode for YEARS when the rest of your roster is aging.

    There is no upside in keeping Carroll when looking at Carroll vs Wilson.

    Even if you aren't a Wilson believer, you have to bet on Wilson because betting on Carroll is like going all in with a pair 4s. You might be able to win, but the odds are close to zero.

    Wilson has several years of good football left not counting an extension. Carroll could literally have to bow out any day because of some medical issue. It makes no sense.

    Carroll is wedded to a type of football the league is trying to discourage. Wilson has advantages all over the place in the kind of football the league is trying to push (and referees are pushed to officiate).

    This is a weird thread because you cannot possibly advocate trading Wilson. For any reason. For almost any amount of picks or players short of another stud QB.
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  • TwistedHusky wrote:There is no circumstance where trading Wilson makes sense but one:

    If you can trade Wilson for Watson.

    (No chance)
    I'm not sure I'd even want Seattle to make that trade. I wouldn't entirely be against it, but I'd definitely be on the fence for a straight-up trade, for two reasons.

    1) I'm not sure we wouldn't be getting a worse end of the deal. I think Russ's talent is equal to Watson's at the moment and we'd be trading away a proven winner for Watson's potential upside.

    2) It'd signal to me that the Seahawks front office believe their problem lies in the QB spot and not on a scheme that needs to be adjusted, which would mean the Seahawks FO has no clue what they are doing.


    It'd definitely be one of the only trade scenarios I can see where I wouldn't freak out but I think in that scenario SEA should get some sort of draft pick compensation as well before I'd be completely happy. (HOU gives SEA first rounder for a SEA third rounder or something).
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  • He wants to take what's left of his good years to a SB . He's given the Hawks his best for the most part . if I were Wilson. I would do some shopping . Wouldn't you ?
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