Fun Fact: 10 of Wilson's final 11 games had *worse* protect

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Mahomes would've died in the 2020 Seahawks offense.

It makes a lot of sense as to why Wilson would like to see upgrades to the O-Line. If the eyeball test wasn't enough already. LG & Center left a lot to be desired the whole season. RT was good until Shell got hurt. Duane Brown had his best season at LT with the Seahawks, but he will be 36. Lewis at RG is very promising, but he still sucked in pass pro.

Wilson's getting older. Protect him. Sign Corey Linsley, and find a way to come out of this upcoming draft with one of the better LG prospects. Thank you.

Nah, we don't do facts here. ALL of it is Russ' fault :?
It's not that the Hawks haven't added O Lineman. It's WHO they have added. So many swing and misses.

Fade":3ivdjx2d said:

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Mahomes would've died in the 2020 Seahawks offense.

It makes a lot of sense as to why Wilson would like to see upgrades to the O-Line. If the eyeball test wasn't enough already. LG & Center left a lot to be desired the whole season. RT was good until Shell got hurt. Duane Brown had his best season at LT with the Seahawks, but he will be 36. Lewis at RG is very promising, but he still sucked in pass pro.

Wilson's getting older. Protect him. Sign Corey Linsley, and find a way to come out of this upcoming draft with one of the better LG prospects. Thank you.

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Everyone Pete Caroll included wants a better OL it just not that easy. I'm sure if Russ is willing to part with DK then we trade for a good linemen.

Part of the problem is scheme, part OL and also part Russell Wilson.

Plenty of factors. O Line, play calling, Russ getting neutered, no adjustments etc.
And yes, he has to play better for this team to go deep in the playoffs. But so does the rest of the team.
Other players have made comments (current and former) why is it ok for them? Just curious.

and looking at that chart if average is 57.4 then Seattle was above average in 10 of 17 games this year? With 3 of those 7 agaisnt the best defense and best defensive lineman in the league.

Doesn't seem like Russ has much to complian about from this graphic.

When you get sacked almost 400 times, you have plenty to complain about.
When the play calling is a pathetic joke much of the time, you have plenty to complain about.
When your coach refuses to adjust in game, let alone in the playoffs, you have plenty to complain about.

Another fun fact according to PFF - Russ was responsible for over 25% of those sacks.

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hoxrox":w646v0ju said:

Another fun fact according to PFF - Russ was responsible for over 25% of those sacks.

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Not talking about that.

Talking about passblocking grades for the Seahawks O-Lineman.[tweet]https://twitter.com/benbbaldwin/status/1359291360763916298[/tweet]

Fade":2q5vtsmi said:

hoxrox":2q5vtsmi said:

Another fun fact according to PFF - Russ was responsible for over 25% of those sacks.

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Not talking about that.

Talking about passblocking grades for the Seahawks O-Lineman.[tweet]https://twitter.com/benbbaldwin/status/1359291360763916298[/tweet]

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Was responding to the post above mine, but you're absolutely right. The FO needs to prioritize o-line this off season. Iupati and Pocic were serviceable at the beginning of the season until they got hurt.

Addedd ESPN paidsite said over his career to at Wilson's mobility has saved 203 sacks as well.

What I love about all of this, is that Russ no longer cares. He doesn't care if people don't appreciate him, don't respect him. He's taking what is his and if you don't like him, trade him. I love his mindset

SoulfishHawk":2j79j30p said:

When you get sacked almost 400 times, you have plenty to complain about.
When the play calling is a pathetic joke much of the time, you have plenty to complain about.
When your coach refuses to adjust in game, let alone in the playoffs, you have plenty to complain about.

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This!

Fun fact: A 67% Pass Block Win Rate over a full season would have been the third best mark in the league. Pretty heinous omission of context there from the supposedly objective Baldwin.

SoulfishHawk":2guthy3p said:

Nah, we don't do facts here. ALL of it is Russ' fault :?
It's not that the Hawks haven't added O Lineman. It's WHO they have added. So many swing and misses.

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Soulman, I can't understand why this ALL wouldn't be Pete's fault (J/K). In part though there isa ring of truth about that, but as we both know the blame is spread around inefficient running game = less respect for play action, slow developing pass routes = 2 high S coverage as the running game is disrespected as unable to accomplish chunk results. Predictability of the schemes, not many innovative short routes, RW holding onto the ball too long also leads to similar results.

The OLine is and has been noticeably weak at C & LG without a doubt. These 2 positions are critically important priorities.

At last though it has become clear as to what area of the team needs the most help.

It's a combo of things. But the guys they have added just haven't panned out for the most part.
And absolutely, Russ has to get rid of the ball faster. That's not exactly his game, but he's certainly capable. I'm hoping, key word being hoping, that the new OC adds a lot more of the short game to this offense.
Couldn't agree more on C and LG. Extremely important to get these positions improved.

Again, Peyton Manning called out his o line in a post game presser, seems like nobody really cared much.
Russ, for the first time really, says something and people just lose their minds.
Just seems odd to me, that's all.

Maybe Russ will renegotiate to help buy his own bodyguards?

Maelstrom787":3r0tr903 said:

Fun fact: A 67% Pass Block Win Rate over a full season would have been the third best mark in the league. Pretty heinous omission of context there from the supposedly objective Baldwin.

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I think his point is, Wilson regularly deals with pressure that we have normalized.

For every sack people blame Wilson for, how many has he avoided?

If you add Sacks caused by Russ minus Sacks avoided by Russ + O-line protection issues, you still get a pretty bad result.

Scorpion05":3w2jfhlq said:

Maelstrom787":3w2jfhlq said:

Fun fact: A 67% Pass Block Win Rate over a full season would have been the third best mark in the league. Pretty heinous omission of context there from the supposedly objective Baldwin.

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I think his point is, Wilson regularly deals with pressure that we have normalized.

For every sack people blame Wilson for, how many has he avoided?

If you add Sacks caused by Russ minus Sacks avoided by Russ + O-line protection issues, you still get a pretty bad result.

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Bingo

Scorpion05":306u2en0 said:

Maelstrom787":306u2en0 said:

Fun fact: A 67% Pass Block Win Rate over a full season would have been the third best mark in the league. Pretty heinous omission of context there from the supposedly objective Baldwin.

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I think his point is, Wilson regularly deals with pressure that we have normalized.

For every sack people blame Wilson for, how many has he avoided?

If you add Sacks caused by Russ minus Sacks avoided by Russ + O-line protection issues, you still get a pretty bad result.

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Very good point. I am guilty of yelling at the tv and being so frustrated when he takes a sack where he could have thrown it away. Then in a calmer more rational moment I think of how many times has him doing that led to something great.

getnasty":3bt6mdes said:

and looking at that chart if average is 57.4 then Seattle was above average in 10 of 17 games this year? With 3 of those 7 agaisnt the best defense and best defensive lineman in the league.

Doesn't seem like Russ has much to complian about from this graphic.

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Don’t let reality get in the way of group think.

Ben Baldwin likes to pretend that the math is on his side, but apparently he can’t read a graph. Perhaps it’s because he got his PhD in a social science? Who knows...