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Russ Trade Possibilities Thread.
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:37 am
  • Just a matter of time folks....it's going to suck donkey balls. :les:
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Re: Russell going to New Orleans....
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:54 am
  • As a Saints fan, I wish. But I sincerely doubt you guys trade him lol. Makes great offseason discussion though to pass time.
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Re: Russell going to New Orleans....
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:45 am
  • The NFL has reported teams making calls for Russ...so its not totally crazy...every player is disposable.

    If a trade does happen, it would be the biggest trade in NFL history! Records would be broken every where! Like 4 1st rounders or something crazy!
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Re: Russell going to New Orleans....
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:55 am
  • K.J WRIGHT wrote:Just a matter of time folks....it's going to suck donkey balls. :les:

    Nope, it’s just silly season.
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Re: Russell going to New Orleans....
Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:50 am
  • This isn't remotely feasible.

    First, if we traded Russ to the Saints they would be on the hook for just $19m of his salary next season while we would have nearly $40m in dead money. Of course they would love to get a bargain like that, but it would still put them at $97 million above the cap. They would have to cut most of their good players, and they couldn't send them to us as part of the trade because we couldn't afford them either due to all the dead money.

    Second, the trade compensation in draft picks would need to be enormous in order for us to absorb 40 million in dead cap in 2021 let alone parting with our best player. Except the Saints are going to be drafting 28th this year and so their draft picks are some of the least valuable.

    Finally, Russ could be interested in playing for Sean Payton someday, but why would he leave a good team now to go to a Saints team that is already nearly $80mil over the cap and would be gutted in the process of trading for him? Russ has a no trade clause and isn't going to just OK a trade to a worse situation.
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Re: Russell going to New Orleans....
Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:51 am
  • AgentDib wrote:This isn't remotely feasible.

    First, if we traded Russ to the Saints they would be on the hook for just $19m of his salary next season while we would have nearly $40m in dead money. Of course they would love to get a bargain like that, but it would still put them at $97 million above the cap. They would have to cut most of their good players, and they couldn't send them to us as part of the trade because we couldn't afford them either due to all the dead money.

    Second, the trade compensation in draft picks would need to be enormous in order for us to absorb 40 million in dead cap in 2021 let alone parting with our best player. Except the Saints are going to be drafting 28th this year and so their draft picks are some of the least valuable.

    Finally, Russ could be interested in playing for Sean Payton someday, but why would he leave a good team now to go to a Saints team that is already nearly $80mil over the cap and would be gutted in the process of trading for him? Russ has a no trade clause and isn't going to just OK a trade to a worse situation.


    I'm sorry but facts and rational talk are not welcome, can you please leave.
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Re: Russell going to New Orleans....
Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:47 am
  • Wilson / Watson trade ?
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Re: Russell going to New Orleans....
Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:39 am
  • Bait and Switch.

    Do you have a link for this? You stated it as fact.
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Re: Russell going to New Orleans....
Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:42 am
  • If it was on Twitter or from a blow hard media type, it MUST be true :lol:
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Re: Russell going to New Orleans....
Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:04 am
  • Just like sand through an hourglass, so are the days of our lives....
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Re: Russell going to New Orleans....
Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:04 am
  • As the stomach turns :lol:
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Re: Russell going to New Orleans....
Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:25 am
  • I remember when bait and switches like this would get you banned. Not cool.
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Re: Russell going to New Orleans....
Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:33 am
  • HawkFan72 wrote:I remember when bait and switches like this would get you banned. Not cool.


    I don't think threads like this used to get you banned. The thread would get deleted/edited/locked and the author would get a warning, but nobody got banned unless they kept ignoring warnings over and over.

    But either way, yeah, lame (and lazy) bait and switch attempt.
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  • OP, I edited your subject title to add the word OPINION. Please do not start topics that sound like you are reporting real news when you are merely stating an opinion. Thank you.
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Re: Russell going to New Orleans....
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:10 pm
  • xray wrote:Wilson / Watson trade ?

    I love Russ but why would Houston make this trade?
    Also Russ has a no trade clause in his contract so there is that.

    I know you were just spit balling here, no harm, no foul.
    Watson and Mahomes are the 2 QB’s I’d trade Russ for.
    The other teams wouldn’t do it because the other 2 QB’s are younger and have more tread left on the tires.
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  • Start out with a minimum of 4 first round picks, then you can start listening. Along with your best O Lineman. Minimum, as a starting point.
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Russ to Las Vegas?
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:58 pm
  • I read an article saying that Las Vegas is interested in Russ and that he has strong ties to Gruden. What do people think about a potential Russ trade to Vegas for Carr and a draft haul?
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Re: Russ to Las Vegas?
Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:01 pm
  • Keep Carr and give up the backup.
    The picks better be good for it to happen and it has to be
    after June 1st to avoid the $40 million dead money cap charge.
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Re: Russ to Las Vegas?
Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:02 pm
  • I honestly can't see it happening.
    Side note, there is literally 23 threads about Russ on the front page of dot net right now. Maybe more, but 23 by a quick count.
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Re: Russ to Las Vegas?
Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:03 pm
  • I view it similarly to the Stafford trade. Swap QBs and get a bunch of picks
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Re: Russ to Las Vegas?
Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:08 pm
  • Carr? Absolutely not. Unless it's Mahomes or Watson, not even worth considering.
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Re: Russ to Las Vegas?
Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:09 pm
  • The draw would be 1st rounders. Cart is a stop gap
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Re: Russ to Las Vegas?
Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:17 pm
  • At least 4 of them :)
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Re: Russ to Las Vegas?
Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:20 pm
  • I’d use the raiders first to try and take Wilson or fields as a replacement maybe
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Re: Russ to Las Vegas?
Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:21 pm
  • Make them throw in Jacob's. BEAST. No chance in hell that would happen, but man he can play.
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Re: Russ to Las Vegas?
Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:25 pm
  • FearTheHawk wrote:I’d use the raiders first to try and take Wilson or fields as a replacement maybe


    I would never take Fields. OSU quarterbacks never succeed as qbs in the NFL.
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Re: Russ to Las Vegas?
Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:33 pm
  • Need to throw in one of the Casinos as well. I am starting to think this story is blowing up way more than it is due to Super Bowl being over and NFL social media guys need something to keep interest up.
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Re: Russ to Las Vegas?
Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:51 pm
  • How many late round 1sts equal a Russell Wilson? Any team that gets him will never be picking before 20. I don't see how we get the value, and Carr sucks.
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Re: Russ to Las Vegas?
Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:16 pm
  • Haven’t verified this but rumor is Dan Patrick said someone in the Seahawk front office told him the front office is pissed at RW for going public about his frustrations. Can someone check it out?
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Re: Russ to Las Vegas?
Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:32 pm
  • SoulfishHawk wrote:Carr? Absolutely not. Unless it's Mahomes or Watson, not even worth considering.

    Nonsense.
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Re: Russ to Las Vegas?
Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:38 pm
  • FresnoHawk68 wrote:Haven’t verified this but rumor is Dan Patrick said someone in the Seahawk front office told him the front office is pissed at RW for going public about his frustrations. Can someone check it out?


    Tough Beans. What's being a good soldier got him over the years ?! And just what are they going to do about it, trade him? That would show him. Ever hear of cutting off your nose to spite your face.
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Re: Russ to Las Vegas?
Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:43 pm
  • SoulfishHawk wrote:Carr? Absolutely not. Unless it's Mahomes or Watson, not even worth considering.


    I'd be okay with DeShawn Watson and a couple of firsts. But I think Russ would balk at going to Houston. Don't blame him.

    The reality is we have a HOF QB, and we're unlikely to get anybody close to his level. Better to give Russ what he wants then to start fresh with a wild card.
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Re: Russ to Las Vegas?
Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:45 pm
  • FresnoHawk68 wrote:Haven’t verified this but rumor is Dan Patrick said someone in the Seahawk front office told him the front office is pissed at RW for going public about his frustrations. Can someone check it out?


    Forget them. The front office should be pissed that they can't put together an O-line to protect one of the best QBs in the game.
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Re: Russ to Las Vegas?
Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:49 pm
  • Wilson doesn't have the mental toughness to deal with Gruden's harsh criticism.

    If he can't handle being held accountable by Pete, there's no way he would handle Gruden.
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Re: Russ to Las Vegas?
Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:07 pm
  • The more I think about this the more it makes sense. Gruden is the type of coach that needs stability at QB he doesn't want to coach anyone up. Russ+Ciara would give them the attention they want in Vegas. Gruden loves Russ. Russ would be back with Tom Cable. Russ would get to play in a brand spanking new stadium and try to make the NFL "work" in Vegas. I want 3 first round picks + Carr for him though.
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Re: Russ to Las Vegas?
Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:28 pm
  • Crizilla wrote:The more I think about this the more it makes sense. Gruden is the type of coach that needs stability at QB he doesn't want to coach anyone up. Russ+Ciara would give them the attention they want in Vegas. Gruden loves Russ. Russ would be back with Tom Cable. Russ would get to play in a brand spanking new stadium and try to make the NFL "work" in Vegas. I want 3 first round picks + Carr for him though.

    Ciara can work as a lounge singer which keeps her career moving there.
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Re: Russ Trade Possibilities Thread.
Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:36 pm
  • I hope the Hawks don't take 1st rounders... They are hapless with them.
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Re: Russ Trade Possibilities Thread.
Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:36 pm
  • I highly doubt the Hawks would trade him to an NFC team. If the do, they are damn fools. The Raiders do seem to make the most sense. The Jets, Denver and Miami are also possibilities. Don’t see a deal going down with Jacksonville.


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Re: Russ Trade Possibilities Thread.
Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:39 pm
  • We'll trade Russ for 4 first round picks and then draft a bunch of guys who would have been available in the 4th round. :P
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Re: Russ Trade Possibilities Thread.
Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:05 pm
  • If Miami calls and offers:

    Tua + their two 1sts + next years first and then maybe sprinkle some 2nd or 3rd round pick...
    Do you guys think it’s worth considering?
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Re: Russ Trade Possibilities Thread.
Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:31 pm
  • The fact that there’s a discussion out there about trading Wilson is just further evidence of what a failure PC is. Wilson should have been a hawk his whole career with multiple rings. Mismanaged badly.
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Re: Russ Trade Possibilities Thread.
Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:52 pm
  • Raiders are shopping Mariota not Carr (at that's what I saw on ESPN ticker over the weekend). Mariota may make sense because he could run the option but Derek Carr would get lit up more than Russ has behind the current Seahawk OL. Watson would be the best case trade scenario. But I don't see it happening.
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Re: Russ Trade Possibilities Thread.
Wed Feb 10, 2021 7:05 pm
  • The more first round picks we get the more third round quality players we can draft.
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Re: Russell going to New Orleans....
Wed Feb 10, 2021 7:16 pm
  • Chawker wrote:Just like sand through an hourglass, so are the days of our lives....

    LOL, More like,> 'S#*t Through a Tin Horn', "So goes the days of our lives". :rofl:
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Re: Russ Trade Possibilities Thread.
Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:37 pm
  • SarG3Hawk wrote:If Miami calls and offers:

    Tua + their two 1sts + next years first and then maybe sprinkle some 2nd or 3rd round pick...
    Do you guys think it’s worth considering?


    Easily. I like the idea of targeting Tua while his stock is lower, and then getting someone like Sewell to protect him right off the bat? That'd be an amazing package.
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Re: Russ Trade Possibilities Thread.
Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:50 pm
  • This thread makes no sense.

    I would not trade Russ for 5 firsts.

    There is no circumstance where trading Russ works out well for us.

    We just become the 76ers after they traded Charles Barkley. Remember they were going to the playoffs with him.

    Barkley continued to go to playoffs and even an NBA finals. The 76ers went into the toilet.

    The 76ers just sucked for a while.


    Imagine the Seahawks without a 4th quarter comeback. Those first 3 quarters of a game before Wilson brings us back? That would be the Hawks under Carroll without Wilson. We would still win games because Carroll has perfected that Ty Willinghamesque version of coaching we all call "PeteBall" (Even though Ty did it first).

    But the playoffs would be a memory. No chance.

    No matter how many 1sts got dumped on our doorstep.
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Re: Russell going to New Orleans....
Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:00 am
  • UK_Seahawk wrote:
    AgentDib wrote:This isn't remotely feasible.

    First, if we traded Russ to the Saints they would be on the hook for just $19m of his salary next season while we would have nearly $40m in dead money. Of course they would love to get a bargain like that, but it would still put them at $97 million above the cap. They would have to cut most of their good players, and they couldn't send them to us as part of the trade because we couldn't afford them either due to all the dead money.

    Second, the trade compensation in draft picks would need to be enormous in order for us to absorb 40 million in dead cap in 2021 let alone parting with our best player. Except the Saints are going to be drafting 28th this year and so their draft picks are some of the least valuable.

    Finally, Russ could be interested in playing for Sean Payton someday, but why would he leave a good team now to go to a Saints team that is already nearly $80mil over the cap and would be gutted in the process of trading for him? Russ has a no trade clause and isn't going to just OK a trade to a worse situation.


    I'm sorry but facts and rational talk are not welcome, can you please leave.

    LMAO
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  • Aros wrote:OP, I edited your subject title to add the word OPINION. Please do not start topics that sound like you are reporting real news when you are merely stating an opinion. Thank you.

    Thank you !
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